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7. A couple years ago the CRIPS tried to set up a spot on Benkard Ave.
Benkard Ave is held by the BBK (Benkard Burrio Kings). The poor CRIPS (from NYC, I think) came up here, set up shop, and within a month were all in jail or dead.
The local gangs keep the national gangs out of the city.
They take care of the local kids and residents. The gangs keep the drug addicts in check and have a "you get our back, we got your back" relationship with the local ghetto residents.

Just two years ago a BLOOD member was selling pot at a know Rasta corner. An old Jamaican lady quietly asked him several times to stop dealing drugs on that corner. This was how the Rasta gang told the kid to move on (the kid is Robyn Rivera - I had posted a story here about his death). No fight, no loud words. A couple days later they found Robyn's shoes hanging on an electric wire in front of the BLOODS main crack spot. They found Robyn in the woods with his feet and hands cut off.

This rasta gang does no street fighting, tagging, or other gang activity. They traffic people, guns, and pot. They protect their neighborhoods and stay out of the turf wars. But when they act, they are heavy. They didn't even kill Robyn, they cut off his hands and feet and left him to die. If Robyn had only respected that old Jamaican lady and move his weed spot he would still be alive.

The cops make the least amount of money in Newburgh (my hood). All surrounding areas pay their cops more. So we cant keep good cops and we only get cops that are too quick to beat up people or to look the other way.

The gangs do a lot to keep the peace in an unregulated economy.
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  -I live in an impoverished inner city that is mostly populated by minorities mdmc  Dec-30-09 12:02 PM   #0 
  - Stay safe my friend!  MadMaddie   Dec-30-09 12:10 PM   #1 
  - yesyes  mdmc   Dec-30-09 12:24 PM   #5 
     - Sounds like you are a busy man, but here's a book that's worth a read if you haven't already:  bertman   Dec-30-09 11:31 PM   #36 
     - welcome to the ol buddy list  mdmc   Dec-31-09 10:59 AM   #98 
     - I don't know if there are adequate here goes:  sueh   Dec-31-09 09:43 AM   #90 
        - Thank you my dear friend  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:23 AM   #111 
  - +100  kestrel91316   Dec-30-09 12:18 PM   #2 
  - I see your +100 and raise it a +101  Number23   Dec-30-09 08:46 PM   #24 
     - So that's + 201 to me? CALL!! (n/t)  DWilliamsamh   Dec-31-09 08:05 AM   #79 
  - gang controlled parts of the city? dang....there would be a good use of the national guard.  ORDagnabbit   Dec-30-09 12:20 PM   #3 
  - A couple years ago the CRIPS tried to set up a spot on Benkard Ave.  mdmc   Dec-30-09 12:34 PM   #7 
     - Wow. Thanks for posting that. Good info to have.  bertman   Dec-30-09 11:28 PM   #35 
     - You think cutting a person's hands and feet off while  cornermouse   Dec-31-09 04:08 AM   #61 
     - no - I am sure that death would have been far more compassionate.  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:03 AM   #100 
     - "They didn't even kill Robyn, they cut off his hands and feet and left him to die."  Kaleva   Dec-31-09 07:02 AM   #72 
     - I was just trying to flavor the hardcore "justice" of the unregulated market  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:05 AM   #102 
        - I was being a tad snarky. Your OP was an excellent read and I thank you for posting it!  Kaleva   Dec-31-09 02:52 PM   #170 
           - thanks for the reply  mdmc   Dec-31-09 05:31 PM   #184 
     - I think you might have missed the point...  burrfoot   Dec-31-09 07:10 AM   #74 
     - POINT TAKEN  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:10 AM   #105 
     - The local gang is/was dealing drugs and defended their dealing "turf"  varelse   Dec-31-09 07:52 AM   #78 
     - they tortured and killed him  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:11 AM   #106 
     - I hope every one of the rasta pieces of shit can be summarily executed.  Lucky Luciano   Dec-31-09 08:48 AM   #84 
     - Newburgh, NY???  Autumn Colors   Dec-31-09 09:40 AM   #88 
        - I live on Washington Street now! The corner of Liberty and Washington  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:14 AM   #108 
           - 1961-1979  Autumn Colors   Dec-31-09 12:37 PM   #138 
  - Agreed a million times a million. But there most definitely ARE ways to improve impoverished lives.  geckosfeet   Dec-30-09 12:21 PM   #4 
  - Thanks for running for office  grantcart   Dec-30-09 12:26 PM   #6 
  - "Be the change that you want to see in the world."  mdmc   Dec-30-09 12:38 PM   #8 
  - Wow, this may be the most depressing post I've ever seen on DU  rockymountaindem   Dec-30-09 12:53 PM   #9 
  - why?  Liberation Angel   Dec-30-09 02:33 PM   #13 
  - It's sad that people have become so worn down by continued injustice  rockymountaindem   Dec-30-09 04:03 PM   #18 
     - Exactly. Dead on. Perfect. Right on the nose.  asthmaticeog   Dec-31-09 06:18 AM   #69 
     - Agreed  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:24 AM   #112 
  - well, any discussion of inner city Newburgh will be depressing  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:22 AM   #109 
  - You must be talking about Detroit. n/t  Fire1   Dec-30-09 01:18 PM   #10 
  - I think it's Newburgh, NY  caraher   Dec-30-09 03:10 PM   #16 
  - Since O was elected 11/08, crime is down to 1960's levels nation wide.  loudsue   Dec-31-09 08:36 AM   #81 
  - Yes, I'm from Newburgh, NY  Autumn Colors   Dec-31-09 09:47 AM   #91 
     - Or east end, west end, heights, flats, and north end (South St. on)  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:07 AM   #104 
        - Please do!  Autumn Colors   Dec-31-09 12:41 PM   #142 
           - fo'sho I will  mdmc   Dec-31-09 01:05 PM   #153 
  - Is Detroit the only city with these problems oh..  butterfly77   Dec-30-09 09:08 PM   #27 
     - Serial killers?  JoeyT   Dec-31-09 02:51 AM   #60 
  - Thank you. This is a great post  pscot   Dec-30-09 02:11 PM   #11 
  - thank you and I will  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:25 AM   #113 
  - I have lived and worked in the inner city most of my adult life  Liberation Angel   Dec-30-09 02:32 PM   #12 
  - thank you as well  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:35 AM   #117 
  - I agree K&R  Hollywood Trucker   Dec-31-09 02:49 PM   #169 
  - Yup, an Obama hat is the new ghetto backstage pass for whites  mkultra   Dec-30-09 02:41 PM   #14 
  - People earn their respect and President Obama  Cha   Dec-30-09 07:29 PM   #23 
  - well thats true  mkultra   Dec-30-09 11:16 PM   #34 
  - "Ghetto back stage pass"?  Butch350   Dec-31-09 07:23 AM   #75 
  - Pretty revealing, isn't it  AspenRose   Dec-31-09 10:58 AM   #97 
  - yeah, its satire sherlock  mkultra   Jan-01-10 12:55 PM   #198 
  - Once they see what I am all about, I am Kool and the Gang  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:29 AM   #115 
  - Nice post, but just one correction, "terms." ;-)  Parker CA   Dec-30-09 02:42 PM   #15 
  - Why do you think you got a pass from your hat?  AngryAmish   Dec-30-09 03:15 PM   #17 
  - No white people go to these areas unless they are copping drugs  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:34 AM   #116 
  - I always get a little misty when I see young African American men ..  Clio the Leo   Dec-30-09 04:45 PM   #19 
  - I was in a convenience store in my neighborhood  angee_is_mad   Dec-30-09 11:35 PM   #37 
  - I almost got jumped by a bunch of gang kids  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:44 AM   #120 
  - Every corner store has  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:37 AM   #118 
  - K&R!  butterfly77   Dec-30-09 06:05 PM   #20 
  - You forgot Danny Glover.  AspenRose   Dec-31-09 11:01 AM   #99 
  - This neighborhood is like many  mstinamotorcity   Dec-30-09 06:16 PM   #21 
  - Great post. Some of the smartest, most hard working people I have EVER known  Number23   Dec-30-09 08:54 PM   #26 
  - mstinamotorcity, that was powerful stuff and right on target. Thanks.  bertman   Dec-30-09 11:36 PM   #38 
  - I don't mean to  mstinamotorcity   Dec-31-09 07:03 AM   #73 
     - Sadly, we live in at least 2 Americans  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:09 PM   #127 
     - Some things people call  mstinamotorcity   Dec-31-09 04:02 PM   #176 
        - thanks for the reply  mdmc   Jan-01-10 11:37 AM   #189 
     - mstinamotorcity, your comments are right on in many respects.  bertman   Jan-01-10 12:45 PM   #197 
  - Please post more.  postulater   Dec-31-09 10:40 AM   #93 
  - I'll pm you when my story is done  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:50 AM   #121 
  - thanks for the reply  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:10 PM   #128 
  - That is pretty much what I saw in the inner city of my town  eilen   Dec-30-09 07:17 PM   #22 
  - Do me a favor  AllentownJake   Dec-30-09 08:50 PM   #25 
  - Explain to your people ie...the haters that..  butterfly77   Dec-30-09 09:10 PM   #28 
  - I have my issues with the administration  AllentownJake   Dec-30-09 09:17 PM   #31 
     - What about dems calling to primary him?  angee_is_mad   Dec-30-09 11:55 PM   #42 
     - The black community is one large segment of the democratic coallition  AllentownJake   Dec-31-09 06:57 AM   #71 
     - Go into a black community supporting an Obama challenger?  angee_is_mad   Dec-31-09 02:54 PM   #171 
     - I can tell you what I am doing Angee  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:04 PM   #126 
     - Ok.We believe you...  butterfly77   Dec-31-09 06:13 PM   #187 
  - I take it you  mstinamotorcity   Dec-30-09 09:12 PM   #29 
  - I tend to go downtown to help out  AllentownJake   Dec-30-09 09:15 PM   #30 
  - We have already took your idea and it is going good  mdmc   Dec-31-09 11:56 AM   #123 
  - great post - good luck out there and stay safe  NJGeek   Dec-30-09 09:43 PM   #32 
  - I can relate to what you're saying  HughMoran   Dec-30-09 11:16 PM   #33 
  - REC AND KICK. nt  bertman   Dec-30-09 11:38 PM   #39 
  - I live in a mixed neighborhood in the city  zalinda   Dec-30-09 11:49 PM   #40 
  - That's because you're not a Democrat.  FrenchieCat   Dec-31-09 12:06 AM   #43 
  - Dayummmmm Frenchie  angee_is_mad   Dec-31-09 12:17 AM   #45 
  - Shameful, hey.  FrenchieCat   Dec-31-09 12:50 AM   #49 
  - Frenchie!!! Good lookin out!!! Go Girl!! n/t  Fire1   Jan-01-10 08:33 PM   #205 
  - okay, now that raggedy ass post makes more sense.  firedupdem   Dec-31-09 12:53 AM   #50 
  - Must be his preacher "accent " that he uses while he has his nose in the air......  FrenchieCat   Dec-31-09 01:25 AM   #51 
  - holy shit. That 2nd post would make Sean Hannity have to change his drawz  Number23   Dec-31-09 01:33 AM   #52 
  - True liberals scare the DLC people like Frenchie.  Ysabela   Dec-31-09 01:46 AM   #53 
  - True liberals don't want Republicans winning, Ysabela.  FrenchieCat   Dec-31-09 02:12 AM   #56 
  - True Liberals don't want a Democratic President to govern like a Republican-lite. That WILL lose..  Ysabela   Dec-31-09 02:20 AM   #57 
     - Sorry Ysabela,  FrenchieCat   Dec-31-09 02:40 AM   #58 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-31-09 02:12 PM   #166 
        - Damn,the pot..  butterfly77   Dec-31-09 06:10 PM   #186 
     - You must be very young  shellgame26   Dec-31-09 08:36 AM   #82 
  - Kucinich will never be on a national Democratic ticket. Ever.  aquart   Dec-31-09 12:16 PM   #132 
  - Not as long as people are stupid enough to vote on looks...  winyanstaz   Dec-31-09 03:17 PM   #174 
  - Kucinich will never be on a national democratic ticket. Ever.  Fire1   Jan-01-10 08:39 PM   #207 
  - In your dreams jelly bean!!! n/t  Fire1   Jan-01-10 08:34 PM   #206 
  - People who live in glass houses.  cornermouse   Dec-31-09 04:57 AM   #63 
  - WOOOOAH!!!  shellgame26   Dec-31-09 08:28 AM   #80 
  - This is why you're hated with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns  AspenRose   Dec-31-09 11:13 AM   #107 
  - Awww, Frenchie!  These Eyes   Dec-31-09 11:38 AM   #119 
  - Being flying under the radar  Hutzpa   Dec-31-09 12:04 PM   #125 
  - And still you defend the man who is doing in the poor  zalinda   Dec-31-09 12:13 PM   #130 
  - You sound like a lost, angry, soul. You sold your own vote down  firedupdem   Dec-31-09 12:48 AM   #48 
  - Your post history is telling  Dappleganger   Dec-31-09 06:10 AM   #68 
  - How the hell do you  mstinamotorcity   Dec-31-09 07:47 AM   #76 
  - lol! I got NOWHERE in the inner city with Dean or Kerry or Hillary  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:16 PM   #131 
  - So basically you're saying...  HiFructosePronSyrup   Dec-31-09 12:35 PM   #136 
  - You tell those Negroes what's good for them!  geek tragedy   Jan-01-10 11:47 AM   #191 
  - Obama is a fortunate man to have the loyalty of  EmeraldCityGrl   Dec-30-09 11:53 PM   #41 
  - Yep, it breaks down like that Pres. Obama has felt our pain, his book defines who he is than the ...  ProgressOnTheMove   Dec-31-09 12:17 AM   #44 
  - and here I thought we gave him a democratic majority already :)  winyanstaz   Dec-31-09 02:02 AM   #54 
     - So where did Lieberman, Landrieux, Lincoln, Bayh, Johnson and a few others come from?  FrenchieCat   Dec-31-09 02:46 AM   #59 
     - It is not the fault of the people (like myself) that voted Obama in  winyanstaz   Dec-31-09 04:10 AM   #62 
     - Thank you for stating the obvious  shellgame26   Dec-31-09 08:41 AM   #83 
     - No Palin ready to take up the reigns  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:23 PM   #133 
  - Just curious. Why did you run for office? If all is so hopeless, and seemingly  change_notfinetuning   Dec-31-09 12:38 AM   #46 
  - Obama: Be the change that you want to see in the world!  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:32 PM   #134 
     - Thank for your response. See post #177 below. Sorry I was too late to rec.  change_notfinetuning   Dec-31-09 04:44 PM   #178 
  - I rec but seeing that much "it is what it is" hurts me  TheKentuckian   Dec-31-09 12:39 AM   #47 
  - I have to agree...  winyanstaz   Dec-31-09 02:06 AM   #55 
  - The ghetto is still full of Obama hope  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:36 PM   #137 
     - I certainly agree with that.....  winyanstaz   Dec-31-09 03:13 PM   #173 
  - glad for the rec, cause we are moving the inner city toward Obama  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:34 PM   #135 
  - Obama's election is "turning the direction"  mdmc   Jan-01-10 11:46 AM   #190 
  - Do you live in Queensbridge?! But I agree. n/t  vaberella   Dec-31-09 05:13 AM   #64 
  - Take the MTA Hudson line out of Grand Central  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:38 PM   #139 
  - I can only recommend this once  RFKHumphreyObama   Dec-31-09 05:31 AM   #65 
  - Respectfully pointing out that I was in agreement with  cornermouse   Dec-31-09 05:55 AM   #66 
  - #7 post was about a former student of mine  mdmc   Jan-01-10 11:50 AM   #192 
  - God bless  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:39 PM   #140 
  - Thank you for sharing that.  Dappleganger   Dec-31-09 06:05 AM   #67 
  - thanks for the reply  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:39 PM   #141 
  - Is anyone paying attention to what's been said on this thread?  cornermouse   Dec-31-09 06:20 AM   #70 
  - This is how unregulated market disputes are resolved.  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:46 PM   #143 
  - Man, are your expectations low or what? I have a feeling that if you don't expect anything from our  IsItJustMe   Dec-31-09 07:51 AM   #77 
  - Where are low expectations represented in the OP?  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:47 PM   #144 
  - You can't be serious  no limit   Dec-31-09 08:54 AM   #85 
  - I'm thinking the same thing.  earth mom   Dec-31-09 09:05 AM   #86 
  - And yet this gets over 100 recs already, kind of sad.  no limit   Dec-31-09 10:41 AM   #94 
  - I still don't understand  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:51 PM   #148 
     - The problem is you are trying to make yourself a spokesman for the inner city, you arent  no limit   Dec-31-09 01:06 PM   #154 
        - gottcha - point taken - you are correct  mdmc   Dec-31-09 01:16 PM   #156 
        - There inner city is passionate about many political issues  mdmc   Dec-31-09 01:28 PM   #158 
        - I'm a black person born and raised in an inner city. What I find interesting is that I read the same  Number23   Dec-31-09 04:01 PM   #175 
           - Then you didn't read the same OP as me  no limit   Dec-31-09 05:22 PM   #182 
              - I agree with you to a point. I thought the OP was spot on but some of the comments in the  Number23   Jan-01-10 11:05 AM   #188 
                 - But after you read the OP I really don't see what other conclusion you can come to  no limit   Jan-01-10 12:31 PM   #196 
                    - By your interpretation why would anyone support or vote for ANYONE??  Number23   Jan-01-10 04:56 PM   #201 
  - please try  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:49 PM   #145 
     - You are communicating perfectly. You are relating what you see, which is  change_notfinetuning   Dec-31-09 04:37 PM   #177 
  - About poor gang members and inner city residents respecting Obama?  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:50 PM   #146 
  - i think maybe people actually would kind of sort of expect him to actually do something.  Algorem   Dec-31-09 09:08 AM   #87 
  - Yeah, because everyone in the inner city MUST be a gangster.  Jennicut   Dec-31-09 01:12 PM   #155 
     - There are many people living in fear of the gangs in the inner city  mdmc   Dec-31-09 01:18 PM   #157 
     - Yes.  Jennicut   Dec-31-09 01:57 PM   #165 
        - uh and my post was meant to reply to them , not you..  mdmc   Dec-31-09 05:15 PM   #181 
     - rich white sheltered liberal chic princess looking to call someone a racist  Algorem   Dec-31-09 02:41 PM   #167 
        - Nope, he worked for a utility and still does, the local phone company now owned by AT&T.  Jennicut   Dec-31-09 05:47 PM   #185 
  - Truthful observations all.  yellerpup   Dec-31-09 09:42 AM   #89 
  - amen  uponit7771   Dec-31-09 10:38 AM   #92 
  - The BIGGEST K&R I've ever given  Autonomy   Dec-31-09 10:43 AM   #95 
  - Wanting a better tomorrow and a fair piece of the pie is not petulance  TheKentuckian   Dec-31-09 01:39 PM   #160 
  - did your neighbors elect you to speak for them?  Enrique   Dec-31-09 10:45 AM   #96 
  - No we have a city council (1 mayor, 4 members)  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:54 PM   #149 
  - Thank you mdmc for your post  RedRoses323   Dec-31-09 11:04 AM   #101 
  - I see that you are in Newburgh. I lived there in the 60's, we were actually  kestrel91316   Dec-31-09 11:07 AM   #103 
  - I remember that too -- busing started for me in 4th grade..  mdmc   Dec-31-09 12:57 PM   #150 
  - If you Google the map for the area, when you turn south onto Park Hill Dr from that road up over  kestrel91316   Jan-01-10 12:16 PM   #194 
     - on the wrong side of the tracks, as us woodwinders used to call ya  mdmc   Jan-01-10 01:33 PM   #199 
        - I sort of remember that development........I also had a classmate that lived  kestrel91316   Jan-01-10 07:50 PM   #203 
           - I know that house very well  mdmc   Jan-02-10 09:48 AM   #208 
  - I went to Union Grove and Temple Hill  Autumn Colors   Dec-31-09 01:41 PM   #161 
     - Temple Hill, South High, NFA..  mdmc   Jan-01-10 11:56 AM   #193 
     - We left after I finished up 5th grade. My sister went to the Jr HS that sits  kestrel91316   Jan-01-10 12:18 PM   #195 
        - NjrHS was a lot nicer then SjrHS  mdmc   Jan-01-10 01:39 PM   #200 
           - I think Epiphany pond is still there in the woods just W of the college/JHS  kestrel91316   Jan-01-10 07:53 PM   #204 
              - is still there  mdmc   Jan-02-10 09:49 AM   #209 
  - I work in an impoverished inner city that is mostly populated by minorities  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-31-09 11:23 AM   #110 
  - God bless you and Happy New Year.  AspenRose   Dec-31-09 11:26 AM   #114 
  - Much Of the Worst Started With Reagan  Rozlee   Dec-31-09 11:53 AM   #122 
  - I hope you'll post more, too!  AspenRose   Dec-31-09 12:12 PM   #129 
  - I rarely argue poltics - HONESTLY  mdmc   Dec-31-09 01:02 PM   #151 
  - yikes  optimator   Dec-31-09 11:56 AM   #124 
  - It is not like that at all  mdmc   Dec-31-09 01:03 PM   #152 
  - May the Great Spirit watch over you while you do your best n/t  zulchzulu   Dec-31-09 12:50 PM   #147 
  - Thank you for your post, mdmc  SeattleGirl   Dec-31-09 01:36 PM   #159 
  - wow mdmc  Hutzpa   Dec-31-09 01:43 PM   #162 
  - Are you from Newburgh, too???? (nt)  Autumn Colors   Dec-31-09 01:46 PM   #163 
     - Not at all  Hutzpa   Dec-31-09 01:48 PM   #164 
        - sometimes, when I'm elsewhere .. other towns / cities  mdmc   Dec-31-09 05:22 PM   #183 
  - Why do you support Pres. Obama then?  Hollywood Trucker   Dec-31-09 02:41 PM   #168 
  - Welcome to DU Hollywood Trucker!  mdmc   Dec-31-09 05:10 PM   #179 
  - so all obama has to do is stay black?  Algorem   Dec-31-09 03:11 PM   #172 
  - perhaps  mdmc   Dec-31-09 05:12 PM   #180 
  - Yes, and give him the TIME he needs too. God, people talking but primary challenges after less than  RBInMaine   Jan-01-10 05:03 PM   #202 

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