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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-03-10 10:33 AM
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59. Apparently
Anti-union and anti-middle class.
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  -The Senate bill is mostly funded by the tax on health plans. $149 Billion vs. $54B from rich people. dkf  Dec-29-09 09:35 AM   #0 
  - This really is political suicide.  n2doc   Dec-29-09 09:49 AM   #1 
  - If the Senate bill passes this will END the Democratic majority, plain & simple......  Faryn Balyncd   Jan-03-10 03:05 PM   #63 
  - This is going to be very bad for me....  vi5   Dec-29-09 10:27 AM   #2 
  - The harm this bill will do thanks to the excise tax on employer-provided insurance benefits is enorm  inna   Dec-29-09 11:14 AM   #3 
  - +1000  amborin   Dec-29-09 11:24 AM   #4 
  - It figures this is the key piece "moderates" won't give up.  dkf   Dec-29-09 04:42 PM   #5 
  - so we should never cast a vote for any of those 'moderates'  IndianaGreen   Jan-01-10 10:41 PM   #21 
  - kick nt  slipslidingaway   Jan-12-10 08:22 PM   #74 
  - kick  senseandsensibility   Dec-29-09 06:17 PM   #6 
  - I am not one of those "kill the bill" or "public option or else" type of person  Meshuga   Dec-29-09 07:33 PM   #7 
  - Does that mean you like the bill or that you are just easy?  pundaint   Jan-03-10 04:41 AM   #43 
  - The vast majority of the excise tax would be on plans for the wealthy  karynnj   Dec-29-09 11:49 PM   #8 
  - What they say in the article contradicts you  levander   Dec-30-09 12:03 AM   #9 
  - And do not forget that a MAJOR part of this "reform" is that  Big_Mike   Jan-02-10 01:07 AM   #30 
  - If almost nobody is impacted by the tax, how will it raise revenue?  Telly Savalas   Dec-30-09 07:22 AM   #11 
  - I'm for this tax...  levander   Dec-30-09 12:09 AM   #10 
  - First of all, you're not having to subsidize these plans.  MadHound   Dec-30-09 07:53 AM   #12 
  - Levander is right  karynnj   Jan-01-10 09:00 AM   #16 
  - karynn, see post #9 in this thread...  levander   Jan-01-10 11:43 PM   #26 
  - I saw that and I have seen that there is near universal union opposition  karynnj   Jan-02-10 11:52 AM   #31 
     - As to price increases...  levander   Jan-03-10 03:53 AM   #35 
  - My employer gives me health credits which i use to pay for my insurance. These credits ARE TAXED  dkf   Jan-03-10 12:59 PM   #62 
  - This is how I'm figuring I'm subsidizing these plans...  levander   Jan-01-10 11:58 PM   #27 
  - Then you should have voted for McCain, It's HIS plan.  freddie mertz   Dec-30-09 08:23 AM   #14 
     - NO IT ISN'T McCain's plan  karynnj   Jan-01-10 09:06 AM   #17 
     - McCain's plan was ridiculous...  levander   Jan-01-10 11:36 PM   #25 
  - We must try to get some of this removed in reconciliation.  freddie mertz   Dec-30-09 08:20 AM   #13 
  - kick  cornermouse   Jan-01-10 08:00 AM   #15 
  - Actually, it is progressive really...  busymom   Jan-01-10 01:56 PM   #18 
  - What would be even more progressive is not taxing those that make under 250k as PROMISED  TheKentuckian   Jan-01-10 10:00 PM   #19 
  - That is not progressive, that is  busymom   Jan-01-10 10:35 PM   #20 
  - If you oppose redistribution of wealth....  burning rain   Jan-03-10 08:29 AM   #55 
  - So you don't take any deductions or credits for your children? eom  Hello_Kitty   Jan-03-10 10:25 AM   #57 
  - brav fucking O, i seem to remember that promise over and over again  vadawg   Jan-03-10 04:01 AM   #36 
     - Crack me UP  busymom   Jan-03-10 04:14 AM   #39 
        - nope im just pointing out the fact that it looks like a major campaign promise is about to go  vadawg   Jan-03-10 04:22 AM   #40 
        - I know....  busymom   Jan-03-10 05:25 AM   #44 
           - yup well you live and you learn, will be interesting to see if there are any ads ala bush senior  vadawg   Jan-03-10 05:27 AM   #45 
        - More excellent talking points from you.  Hello_Kitty   Jan-03-10 10:31 AM   #58 
        - Well, Obama seems to be doing just that.  busymom   Jan-03-10 05:34 PM   #64 
        - You've used that "redistribution of wealth" nonsense a few times now  spoony   Jan-04-10 01:48 PM   #70 
        - then your a conservative  mkultra   Jan-04-10 05:51 PM   #72 
  - Union workers gave up pay raises to keep health benefits  IndianaGreen   Jan-01-10 10:42 PM   #22 
  - Times change, it's not the 1950's any more...  levander   Jan-01-10 11:21 PM   #23 
     - Times change. Union workers will vote against those that raise their taxes  IndianaGreen   Jan-01-10 11:33 PM   #24 
        - And, my next automobile is going to be foreign!  levander   Jan-02-10 12:01 AM   #28 
        - Guess what!  busymom   Jan-02-10 12:08 PM   #32 
           - WTF??  Hello_Kitty   Jan-02-10 01:30 PM   #34 
           - facepalm indeed.  inna   Jan-04-10 02:38 AM   #66 
           - lol i hope you are willing to pay a lot more in taxes as well, or is it just people who make more  vadawg   Jan-03-10 04:03 AM   #37 
           - I'm sure I'll have no choice...and it totally  busymom   Jan-03-10 05:28 AM   #46 
           - What rock flipped over and unleashed these union-hating numpties? nt  spoony   Jan-03-10 04:41 AM   #42 
              - Union members  busymom   Jan-03-10 05:29 AM   #47 
                 - If you don't have a union, whose fault is it?  cornermouse   Jan-03-10 06:50 AM   #49 
                 - Your thesis  busymom   Jan-03-10 07:14 AM   #50 
                    - Your thesis appears to be "drag 'em down".  cornermouse   Jan-03-10 07:39 AM   #52 
                       - Apparently  Hello_Kitty   Jan-03-10 10:33 AM   #59 
                 - Crap, someone took the corporate line, didn't they?  spoony   Jan-04-10 07:48 AM   #67 
  - It sooooo depends on where you live. If an average residence is half a million  pundaint   Jan-03-10 04:32 AM   #41 
     - Exactly. And people with higher incomes tend to live in higher cost areas  Hello_Kitty   Jan-03-10 12:28 PM   #61 
  - When did the rich become the middle class?  boppers   Jan-02-10 12:10 AM   #29 
  - When did $50K a year become rich?  Hello_Kitty   Jan-02-10 01:26 PM   #33 
     - you do realise that to some people its always been rich, even if you earn a little mnore than them  vadawg   Jan-03-10 04:10 AM   #38 
     - 50-75k is the average salary range for most households in america  busymom   Jan-03-10 05:33 AM   #48 
     - How many US households have 3-4 wage earners in the home?  boppers   Jan-03-10 07:47 AM   #53 
     - Great, so you're for taking the child tax credit away, right?  Hello_Kitty   Jan-03-10 10:42 AM   #60 
     - Progressive taxation means that people's percentage of income to taxes  TheKentuckian   Jan-04-10 01:24 PM   #69 
     - There was a time when the top 25% didn't complain about taxes.  boppers   Jan-03-10 08:01 AM   #54 
        - Oh yeah?! Well why don't you live on a DOLLAR a day now?!  Hello_Kitty   Jan-03-10 10:18 AM   #56 
        - 1 dollar a day vs. 10, and 50K vs. 500K are the same?  boppers   Jan-04-10 01:43 AM   #65 
        - Aside from being besides the point, I call bullshit  TheKentuckian   Jan-04-10 04:41 PM   #71 
           - Who said I could afford a house or apartment?  boppers   Jan-05-10 03:07 AM   #73 
  - And of course this will be seen as "redistribution of wealth" Socialism, etc. by Tea Baggers  Phoebe Loosinhouse   Jan-03-10 07:15 AM   #51 
  - I remember when Obama said he wouldn't raise taxes on those making under $200,000.  shadesofgray   Jan-04-10 11:14 AM   #68 
 

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