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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-29-09 08:19 AM
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60. Lieberman is a centrist
Baucus is a centrist. Centrist = conservadem
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  -Why do Obama's critics think they own the rights to the label "progressive" ProSense  Dec-28-09 10:17 PM   #0 
  - and "base." NT  Clio the Leo   Dec-28-09 10:19 PM   #1 
  - "Why are most progressives critical of Obama?" is real question.  unc70   Dec-29-09 04:14 PM   #83 
  - Obama doesn't call himself a progressive. He calls himself a moderate.  dkf   Dec-28-09 10:22 PM   #2 
  - Right  ProSense   Dec-28-09 10:25 PM   #4 
  - Add up all the vectors and he's a solid progressive.  tridim   Dec-28-09 10:31 PM   # 
     - I don't see an agenda that will decrease poverty or create jobs beyond saving state employees.  dkf   Dec-29-09 01:07 AM   #44 
  - Where's a quote of him calling himself a moderate? n/t  jenmito   Dec-28-09 10:28 PM   #9 
  - "I am a New Democrat"  Enrique   Dec-29-09 12:33 AM   #40 
     - An unsourced quote from a Politico article?  ProSense   Dec-29-09 01:19 AM   #48 
  - I consider progressive to be left of liberal.  Phx_Dem   Dec-29-09 12:59 PM   #72 
  - you forgot the sarcasm icon again  niyad   Dec-28-09 10:23 PM   #3 
  - It wasn't sarcasm. n/t  ProSense   Dec-28-09 10:26 PM   #6 
  - IBTL  ClassWarrior   Dec-28-09 10:25 PM   #5 
  - What? n/t  ProSense   Dec-28-09 10:26 PM   #7 
  - I posted this earlier ...  NanceGreggs   Dec-28-09 10:28 PM   #8 
  - That works both ways  Armstead   Dec-28-09 10:29 PM   #10 
  - +1 n/t  firedupdem   Dec-28-09 10:29 PM   #11 
  - I'd change the last part to, "If you don't, you're a Corporatist."  jenmito   Dec-28-09 10:30 PM   #12 
  - That's true. But "a group of people" is far different...  ClassWarrior   Dec-28-09 10:31 PM   #15 
  - Yuppers.  NanceGreggs   Dec-28-09 10:35 PM   #16 
  - And that's why your analysis is correct, and the OP's is...  ClassWarrior   Dec-28-09 10:37 PM   #17 
     - Don't be ridiculous. There is no mention of anyone but critics in the OP. n/t  ProSense   Dec-28-09 10:39 PM   #18 
     - To describe this OP as "divisive flamebait" ...  NanceGreggs   Dec-28-09 10:47 PM   #21 
        - So because it's only relatively divisive, it's okay?  ClassWarrior   Dec-28-09 11:08 PM   #27 
           - To be perfectly candid, ClassWarrior ...  NanceGreggs   Dec-29-09 01:57 AM   #50 
  - It's interesting that you chose to post this here  ProSense   Dec-28-09 10:43 PM   #20 
  - sadly, it's that simple  HughMoran   Dec-29-09 01:24 PM   #77 
  - This is my response from to your post in my Liberal thread  Armstead   Dec-28-09 10:30 PM   #13 
  - Well said. - n/t  Zenlitened   Dec-29-09 04:48 PM   #84 
  - I see you are winning hearts and minds, just as Obama's drone attacks are  IndianaGreen   Dec-28-09 10:30 PM   #14 
  - LOL.  David Zephyr   Dec-29-09 12:45 PM   #71 
  - Well, here's a handy dandy little quiz....  Clio the Leo   Dec-28-09 10:39 PM   #19 
  - I scored 240 out of 400.  Kaleva   Dec-28-09 10:49 PM   #22 
  - 374 (nt)  dflprincess   Dec-28-09 10:56 PM   #23 
     - I'm probably at the low end compared to many here.  Kaleva   Dec-28-09 11:07 PM   #26 
  - 305  Armstead   Dec-28-09 11:33 PM   #31 
  - 361  Undercurrent   Dec-28-09 11:37 PM   #32 
  - I scored 356  nevergiveup   Dec-29-09 12:09 AM   #38 
  - You and me both.  Undercurrent   Dec-29-09 01:13 AM   #46 
  - 378/400  MerryBlooms   Dec-29-09 07:03 AM   #52 
  - "Should be" on some watch list? Why any doubt?  unc70   Dec-29-09 03:50 PM   #82 
  - 371 was my score.  Jamastiene   Dec-29-09 10:46 AM   #63 
  - 339........  CrownPrinceBandar   Dec-29-09 11:08 AM   #64 
  - 339 nt.  CBR   Dec-29-09 11:53 AM   #68 
  - 364 n/t  DisgustedInMN   Dec-29-09 12:12 PM   #69 
  - You should post this as a poll in both GD and GDP  andym   Dec-29-09 12:38 PM   #70 
  - 373/400 here.  racaulk   Dec-29-09 01:08 PM   #73 
  - I took the liberty of creating a poll for GD based on your link.  andym   Dec-29-09 01:23 PM   #76 
  - I got 340/400 or "Extremely Progressive"  HughMoran   Dec-29-09 01:37 PM   #79 
  - I think of progressive as left of and below center in this chart:  noamnety   Dec-28-09 11:04 PM   #24 
  - The leftier than thou folks ain't talkin' 'bout much  TheKentuckian   Dec-28-09 11:07 PM   #25 
  - If you believe corporations have too much power and should be reined in....  Armstead   Dec-28-09 11:28 PM   #30 
     - Oh, I'm a pretty good lefty, I just don't get the pissing contest aspect that goes on here  TheKentuckian   Dec-28-09 11:43 PM   #34 
  - If you criticize someone from the left, you naturally consider yourself progressive relative to him.  burning rain   Dec-28-09 11:15 PM   #28 
  - The reality is based on objective review of policies and actions  depakid   Dec-28-09 11:24 PM   #29 
  - It's nonsense.  ProSense   Dec-28-09 11:42 PM   #33 
     - Progressive positions on the issues aren't "opinion"  depakid   Dec-28-09 11:52 PM   #35 
        - Neither is spin. Speaking of records  ProSense   Dec-28-09 11:59 PM   #37 
           - All you ever do is spin- and worse- repeat whatever the spin of the day is  depakid   Dec-29-09 01:17 AM   #47 
              - What a joke  ProSense   Dec-29-09 07:36 AM   #55 
  - Don't you have articles to cut and paste?  Oregone   Dec-28-09 11:59 PM   #36 
  - "cut and paste" = I disagree with what you posted.  ProSense   Dec-29-09 12:11 AM   #39 
     - No, it means you just regurgitate copyrighted material verbatim  Oregone   Dec-29-09 01:51 AM   #49 
        - Evidently, you also don't know what you're talking about. n/t  ProSense   Dec-29-09 07:39 AM   #56 
  - do you find something wrong with Obama being a centrist?  Enrique   Dec-29-09 12:36 AM   #41 
  - Recommended. n/t  LoZoccolo   Dec-29-09 12:41 AM   #42 
  - K&R  AVID   Dec-29-09 12:43 AM   #43 
  - How would you define the label, "progressive?" nt  ZombieHorde   Dec-29-09 01:12 AM   #45 
  - "Holier than thou" is part of every social scene.  boppers   Dec-29-09 03:08 AM   #51 
  - Sorry, can't reconcile being bigoted with being a progressive.  VMI Dem   Dec-29-09 07:04 AM   #53 
  - huh? I have no idea what you're attempting to say? care to be more explicit?  cali   Dec-29-09 07:13 AM   #54 
  - I'm not altogether certain that Obama is a Progressive....  Jeff In Milwaukee   Dec-29-09 08:03 AM   #57 
  - I thought "centrist" was the meme du jour. Now the centrists are co-opting "progressive"?  ima_sinnic   Dec-29-09 08:13 AM   #58 
  - Lieberman is a centrist  niceypoo   Dec-29-09 08:19 AM   #60 
     - Lieberman is a reactionary crypto-fascist  IndianaGreen   Dec-29-09 03:37 PM   #81 
  - Change doesnt come through bowing and scraping  niceypoo   Dec-29-09 08:17 AM   #59 
  - currently, just below this in GDP: "Under the radar, Obama pushes for Patriot Act renewal"  ima_sinnic   Dec-29-09 08:25 AM   #61 
  - From that thread  ProSense   Dec-29-09 11:12 AM   #66 
  - Delete - posted in wrong place  Jamastiene   Dec-29-09 10:45 AM   #62 
  - Jane Hamsher is a rightwingnut who joined with racists  WeDidIt   Dec-29-09 11:12 AM   #65 
  - To be fair she is a leftwing nut that joined with racists, anti-labor assholes, torture lovers, and  TheKentuckian   Dec-30-09 02:00 PM   #92 
  - Thanks for pointing the false framing that is frequently employed  NJmaverick   Dec-29-09 11:37 AM   #67 
  - Try to sell this boolshit to Bill Moyers!!! Then throw him under the Obama bus.  Major Hogwash   Dec-29-09 01:13 PM   #74 
  - Yes bad bad Bill Moyers.....He's about due for the gulliotine too  Armstead   Dec-29-09 01:28 PM   #78 
  - Beats the terms you use. nt.  freddie mertz   Dec-29-09 01:16 PM   #75 
  - My rep is John Lewis - he agrees with almost every thing I say. Obama is F-ing up in a major way.  grahamhgreen   Dec-29-09 02:52 PM   #80 
  - I don't.  LWolf   Dec-30-09 07:43 AM   #85 
  - believe it's more accurate to say "center left" politics  Armstead   Dec-30-09 08:47 AM   #86 
     - Maybe.  LWolf   Dec-30-09 11:57 AM   #87 
        - Personally I think "the center" is really big -- and "left" depends on who's discussing  Armstead   Dec-30-09 12:15 PM   #88 
           - I agree with most of that.  LWolf   Dec-30-09 12:41 PM   #89 
  - i hate the term progressive. reclaim the word "liberal" people...  dionysus   Dec-30-09 01:14 PM   #90 
  - Would you describe your views as progressive?  freddie mertz   Dec-30-09 01:34 PM   #91 
 

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