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Mon Dec-28-09 10:47 PM
Response to Reply #39 |
| 50. Personally, I have more problems with the disrespect, then the policy differences.... |
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that I perceive here on this board by Obama's critics.
Some are going from "Disagree on policy differences, what's wrong with that",
to "he owned and being led by the nose" and "he's a failure" and "He doesn't care about the people,
he just wants to get rich" and "let's primary him....threaten him with that",
"let's join the Teabaggers, and scare the hell out of him" type of posts.
That shit is harsh, considering that he isn't done with his first year,
and he didn't exactly inherit a rose garden.
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| -"Alienating Blacks with Progressive Kneejerking" |
angee_is_mad |
Dec-28-09 09:15 PM |
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Tell that to the Congressional Black Caucus |
AllentownJake |
Dec-28-09 09:23 PM |
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Your response is full of contradiction. n/t |
ProSense |
Dec-28-09 09:26 PM |
#4 |
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The Congressional Black Caucus held up the Financial Regulation hearing in the House |
AllentownJake |
Dec-28-09 09:29 PM |
#5 |
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Are you seriously trying to equate the CBC's position with the point in the OP? |
ProSense |
Dec-28-09 09:33 PM |
#7 |
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Oh the teaming up with "Tea Baggers" thing |
AllentownJake |
Dec-28-09 09:38 PM |
#8 |
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So dissatisfaction on the part of some Obama supporters was inevitable? NT |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-28-09 10:18 PM |
#31 |
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Duh |
AllentownJake |
Dec-28-09 10:35 PM |
#40 |
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So how can he be blamed if disappointment was inevitable? |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-28-09 10:59 PM |
#57 |
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That is perfectly true |
AllentownJake |
Dec-28-09 11:03 PM |
#62 |
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And if your doing so wasn't in essence a vote for the GOP... |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-28-09 11:12 PM |
#67 |
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I've made my line in the sand abundantly clear in my OP on the greatest page |
AllentownJake |
Dec-28-09 11:16 PM |
#69 |
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lol, well by all means, get the man off of the golf course! |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-28-09 11:32 PM |
#76 |
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I lived in Philadelphia for 3 years |
AllentownJake |
Dec-28-09 11:35 PM |
#78 |
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Expectations. |
Jamastiene |
Dec-29-09 10:14 AM |
#101 |
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I think how informed those expectations are makes a difference as well. NT |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-29-09 10:54 AM |
#106 |
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Do you not realize that Obama is more popular with black voters than black elected officials |
Number23 |
Dec-28-09 10:32 PM |
#38 |
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If people want to make this a race issue |
AllentownJake |
Dec-28-09 10:41 PM |
#44 |
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Whether anyone 'wants' this to be a race issue or not, there will always be elements of that involve |
Number23 |
Dec-28-09 10:50 PM |
#52 |
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I have his back against certain people |
AllentownJake |
Dec-28-09 10:54 PM |
#55 |
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Jake, we all know your resume. |
Number23 |
Dec-28-09 11:12 PM |
#66 |
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My objections to policy are well reasoned |
AllentownJake |
Dec-28-09 11:26 PM |
#73 |
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Then that's your right. But just understand that as you have the right to voice your "objections" |
Number23 |
Dec-28-09 11:37 PM |
#79 |
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Excellent post, Number 23! Very well said! |
babylonsister |
Dec-29-09 06:55 AM |
#89 |
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It's like PUMA, revisited |
AspenRose |
Dec-29-09 09:04 AM |
#92 |
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The disappointment is not because of his race. |
Jamastiene |
Dec-29-09 10:16 AM |
#102 |
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Thank you! |
butterfly77 |
Dec-29-09 12:07 PM |
#141 |
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You don't think it's about him sacking his identifiably progressive advisors |
Joe Chi Minh |
Dec-29-09 01:38 PM |
#151 |
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and I volunteered and contributed to more white candidates |
angee_is_mad |
Dec-28-09 11:13 PM |
#68 |
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K & R Your Reply |
kayla9170 |
Dec-28-09 11:27 PM |
#74 |
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And Some of my Best Friends are "Black".......and on and on....... |
kayla9170 |
Dec-28-09 11:34 PM |
#77 |
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yup, Its amazing how many bigots this party still contains. |
mkultra |
Dec-29-09 11:03 AM |
#108 |
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Why are you accusing the poster on post 44 of racism? |
freddie mertz |
Dec-29-09 11:29 AM |
#123 |
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Are you calling Jake a bigot? |
freddie mertz |
Dec-29-09 11:27 AM |
#121 |
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I think some are calling us ALL bigots, |
Jamastiene |
Dec-29-09 12:22 PM |
#145 |
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That was my impression too. |
freddie mertz |
Dec-29-09 12:58 PM |
#148 |
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The teabaggers are full of |
Cha |
Dec-28-09 09:25 PM |
#2 |
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Yet we read that Black members of Congress growing impatient with Obama. |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-09 09:25 PM |
#3 |
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name ONE CBC who has advocated primarying Obama? |
angee_is_mad |
Dec-28-09 10:04 PM |
#19 |
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i agree with you |
AusDem |
Dec-28-09 10:59 PM |
#58 |
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How can non racists march side by side with racists? |
angee_is_mad |
Dec-28-09 11:19 PM |
#70 |
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DIssent is not calling for him to be a one termer..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-28-09 10:11 PM |
#28 |
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Again, great response |
kayla9170 |
Dec-28-09 10:22 PM |
#32 |
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It depends on what day it is and for what occassion. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-28-09 10:26 PM |
#35 |
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That's fine but when it's voting time again... |
Balderdash |
Dec-29-09 11:38 AM |
#127 |
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Odd since I recall blacks were initially very cool towards Obama |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-09 10:29 PM |
#37 |
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Blacks didn't TRUST that white people would vote for him |
angee_is_mad |
Dec-28-09 10:38 PM |
#41 |
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White people were his initial supporters. How is it they were willing to |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-09 10:52 PM |
#54 |
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I'm telling You what was being said in the community |
angee_is_mad |
Dec-28-09 11:06 PM |
#63 |
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"bill, oops, I mean hillary" Nice way to demean Hillary. |
Metric System |
Dec-29-09 11:48 AM |
#132 |
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Why did blacks play it safe and whites took a risk? |
POAS |
Dec-28-09 11:55 PM |
#82 |
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Spare the hyperbole that "many are siding with racists". Progressives |
snagglepuss |
Dec-29-09 12:11 AM |
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How in the hell do you know THAT? That sounds like some |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 10:31 AM |
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Anyone who followed the primaries knows exactly that is the case. |
snagglepuss |
Dec-29-09 10:59 AM |
#107 |
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CNN! Just as I stated. M$M talking point and hardly |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 11:12 AM |
#115 |
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Hello this is a POLL not a talking point. You are obviously clueless about |
snagglepuss |
Dec-29-09 11:17 AM |
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Poll schmoll! Do you realize the vast number of freakin polls |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 11:22 AM |
#119 |
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You are digging yourself further into a hole. That a majority of black voters initially |
snagglepuss |
Dec-29-09 11:27 AM |
#120 |
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No hole to dig. I will never consider a "poll" to be factual. n/t |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 11:30 AM |
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You are digging a hole but you don't know it because you have not |
snagglepuss |
Dec-29-09 11:55 AM |
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I can't have a discussion with someone who thinks a poll is |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 12:12 PM |
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Wisdom is knowing what you don't know. You clearly have no clue |
snagglepuss |
Dec-29-09 12:33 PM |
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Welcome to ignore. n/t |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 05:44 PM |
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"hillary even used this strategy against him." BULLSHIT |
Metric System |
Dec-29-09 11:47 AM |
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"BULLSHIT" |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Dec-29-09 12:08 PM |
#142 |
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It's always the same around here. |
Beacool |
Dec-29-09 05:48 PM |
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The general consensus is that black voters, who understand America better than ANYBODY, |
Number23 |
Dec-28-09 10:39 PM |
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Well obviously black voters don't understand America better because they didn't |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-09 11:07 PM |
#64 |
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So you want all of us to just ignore this country's racial history because...what?? |
Number23 |
Dec-28-09 11:19 PM |
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black voters don't understand America better? Are you kidding?? |
firedupdem |
Dec-28-09 11:31 PM |
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If you read thread you'd realize what that remark about blk voters was in response to. |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-09 11:55 PM |
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Hamsher is smearing herself... |
firedupdem |
Dec-29-09 12:02 AM |
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Much to Pres. Obama's chagrin, amurka, has NOT changed |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 10:35 AM |
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Betrayed?! YOU betrayed your damned self with idealism |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 10:46 AM |
#105 |
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wrong |
mkultra |
Dec-29-09 11:11 AM |
#113 |
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this same sentiment should reflect through all democrats |
mkultra |
Dec-29-09 11:09 AM |
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Black folks are quite astute and are not naive. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-28-09 10:41 PM |
#47 |
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First, let me correct you on one thing........ |
kayla9170 |
Dec-28-09 11:00 PM |
#60 |
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Excellent Post. |
firedupdem |
Dec-28-09 11:08 PM |
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+1 unexplaned hatred equals a hidden agenda. |
mkultra |
Dec-29-09 11:12 AM |
#114 |
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And it was the race-baiting in South Carolina started by the Clintons |
AspenRose |
Dec-29-09 09:08 AM |
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+1 million |
mkultra |
Dec-29-09 11:04 AM |
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you're confusing dissent with "teaming up with teabaggers" |
Skittles |
Dec-28-09 09:31 PM |
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+1 |
xchrom |
Dec-28-09 09:39 PM |
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+2 |
jillan |
Dec-28-09 10:05 PM |
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Grover Norquist is a teabagger. n/t |
ProSense |
Dec-28-09 09:43 PM |
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your confusing hatred with dissent |
mkultra |
Dec-29-09 11:13 AM |
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I am black and very progressive, |
tblue |
Dec-28-09 09:40 PM |
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I think the key word is "kneejerking" |
grantcart |
Dec-28-09 10:06 PM |
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For the one of you, there are 10 of us....which is why he is at 91% approval. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-28-09 10:08 PM |
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Who is asking you not to criticize? The OP speaks of people |
firedupdem |
Dec-28-09 10:10 PM |
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You've already admited that you never supported Obama very strongly..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-28-09 10:17 PM |
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Good post. |
Number23 |
Dec-28-09 10:41 PM |
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i dont believe your black. |
mkultra |
Dec-29-09 11:16 AM |
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So all progressives are aligned with teabaggers now -- Bullshit attack |
Armstead |
Dec-28-09 09:40 PM |
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"One progressive blogger misguidedly allies with teabaggers" |
ProSense |
Dec-28-09 09:44 PM |
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Did I ever say it wasn't? |
Armstead |
Dec-28-09 09:59 PM |
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Beautiful! You said it better than I ever could? |
tblue |
Dec-28-09 09:45 PM |
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Oh good..glad to see you're not marching off the cliff with hamsher. |
Cha |
Dec-28-09 09:49 PM |
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Hear, hear!!!! |
Beacool |
Dec-28-09 10:02 PM |
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Supporting him because he's black is not the issue. n/t |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 11:04 AM |
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If that's the case you would love Obama, as he and Hillary are virtually the same policy wise. |
Forkboy |
Dec-29-09 11:59 AM |
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Very well said |
Number23 |
Dec-29-09 04:51 PM |
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I'm not trying to fool anyone. |
Beacool |
Dec-29-09 06:07 PM |
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No, I don't particularly care for the man. |
Beacool |
Dec-29-09 06:06 PM |
#157 |
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Oh, BS. Obama and Clinton were just about two sides of the same coin |
CakeGrrl |
Dec-29-09 12:25 PM |
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+1 |
Skip Intro |
Dec-28-09 10:07 PM |
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Yes, there's a spike in progressive criticism of Obama, but Cesca misrepresents what it is. |
highplainsdem |
Dec-28-09 09:59 PM |
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"the principles THEY thought were there...." |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-28-09 10:05 PM |
#21 |
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What you see is what should be; Black officials aren't supposed to |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-28-09 10:24 PM |
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lol No one was "apoplectic" about that Black Agenda Report |
Number23 |
Dec-28-09 11:02 PM |
#61 |
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That should be an OP by itself |
AspenRose |
Dec-29-09 09:47 AM |
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Fantastic post. |
Number23 |
Dec-29-09 05:03 PM |
#153 |
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I personally don't see this |
Blasphemer |
Dec-28-09 10:06 PM |
#23 |
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What do they say, and where are you from? |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-28-09 10:09 PM |
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We're from NY |
Blasphemer |
Dec-28-09 10:35 PM |
#39 |
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Personally, I have more problems with the disrespect, then the policy differences.... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-28-09 10:47 PM |
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K/R..... |
kayla9170 |
Dec-28-09 10:18 PM |
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If you see progressives as a problem, primary them with conservative Democrats. |
burning rain |
Dec-28-09 10:23 PM |
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Chilling. Sounds like an attempt to tell progressives to watch what they say, to lay off Obama... |
Skip Intro |
Dec-28-09 10:29 PM |
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Nope you pretty much got it. |
spoony |
Dec-28-09 10:38 PM |
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+10 |
cherokeeprogressive |
Dec-28-09 10:59 PM |
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Repeatedly. |
pecwae |
Dec-29-09 06:47 AM |
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The Question I would like to ask is |
kayla9170 |
Dec-28-09 10:41 PM |
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I know I was criticizing Bill Clinton starting in 1994 |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-28-09 10:47 PM |
#49 |
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There was and still is LOTS of Clinton criticism from the left |
Blasphemer |
Dec-28-09 10:58 PM |
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Some time when you're bored.... |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-28-09 11:55 PM |
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I certainly was. |
JoeyT |
Dec-29-09 05:47 AM |
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You are |
angee_is_mad |
Dec-28-09 10:44 PM |
#48 |
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I think the whole "let's primary him" is a fucking threat. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-28-09 10:50 PM |
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Of course it is. Lieberman, Nelson, and company are fucking serious |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-28-09 11:24 PM |
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It's not a threat, it's how our democracy works |
Tailormyst |
Dec-29-09 09:48 AM |
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It is a precious few teaming up with teabaggers |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-28-09 10:50 PM |
#51 |
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Hear hear. |
JoeyT |
Dec-29-09 05:51 AM |
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It is a few: but they are some of the loudest on this board. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Dec-29-09 06:45 AM |
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All of those should have been removed. |
pecwae |
Dec-29-09 07:03 AM |
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+1 n/t |
firedupdem |
Dec-29-09 11:57 AM |
#135 |
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If some other unnamed minority group had said something like this it would be labeled as poutrage. |
VMI Dem |
Dec-29-09 06:56 AM |
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Yep, this thread is friggin hilarious |
Prism |
Dec-29-09 09:36 AM |
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Threats to primary or impeach a sitting democratic |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 11:40 AM |
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Girl, just ignore the folks trying to drag this off topic. Everyone else did. |
Number23 |
Dec-29-09 05:17 PM |
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Who is "aligning with teabaggers" ? |
Tailormyst |
Dec-29-09 09:47 AM |
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Um...WTF!? |
Balderdash |
Dec-29-09 09:50 AM |
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Now THIS is flamebait |
brentspeak |
Dec-29-09 10:00 AM |
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HRC is Hilliary Rodham Clinton. HCR is health care reform. |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 11:09 AM |
#112 |
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Yeah, an original racist piece... |
Balderdash |
Dec-29-09 11:30 AM |
#124 |
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Re-read your own post and go from there. n/t |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 11:32 AM |
#126 |
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You must have reading comprehension problems... nt |
Balderdash |
Dec-29-09 11:40 AM |
#128 |
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"Progressives who blast HRC efforts..." THIS is what YOU |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 11:44 AM |
#130 |
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HRC stands for Health Care Reform. SHIT! |
Balderdash |
Dec-29-09 11:52 AM |
#133 |
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H = HEALTH C= CARE R-= REFORM. You must be dyslexic. |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 12:05 PM |
#139 |
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I DIDN'T POST MAKE THAT POST! |
Balderdash |
Dec-29-09 11:58 AM |
#136 |
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Nothing is "pretty clear" lately. My apologies. n/t |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 12:07 PM |
#140 |
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HRC......HCR I get them confused too much, I have to use the long version |
KakistocracyHater |
Dec-29-09 07:28 PM |
#159 |
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I can't see teaming up with racists and won't be doing that. |
Jamastiene |
Dec-29-09 10:09 AM |
#100 |
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A horse by any other name is still a horse. To paraphrase |
Fire1 |
Dec-29-09 11:28 AM |
#122 |
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I can guarantee that this will backfire. Trust me. nt |
Balderdash |
Dec-29-09 12:00 PM |
#138 |
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We alienate blacks by legislating that they're capable of nothing in this world without having... |
newtothegame |
Dec-29-09 12:19 PM |
#144 |
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I'm trying to sort this out. |
freddie mertz |
Dec-29-09 01:05 PM |
#149 |
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I stand with AAs; extreme pride and holding the Pres in high esteem. |
Phx_Dem |
Dec-29-09 01:08 PM |
#150 |
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