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Thu Oct-02-08 12:58 AM
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| 29. If an anti-Bush student protester... |
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...was killed by an unknown gunman here would you be so willing to write off the government?
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| -Student opposition leader gunned down in Venezuela |
Bacchus39 |
Oct-01-08 07:51 PM |
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Hmmm |
bluestateguy |
Oct-01-08 07:57 PM |
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Must be normal.. |
Pavulon |
Oct-01-08 08:07 PM |
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I do not want... |
iandhr |
Oct-01-08 08:25 PM |
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huh? |
harmonicon |
Oct-01-08 08:53 PM |
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you do know that he was an opposition leader who has been assassinated though |
Bacchus39 |
Oct-01-08 08:56 PM |
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sure |
harmonicon |
Oct-01-08 09:33 PM |
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what we know about venezuela is that the universities are mostly |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-02-08 02:22 AM |
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Really? All westernized rich kids in all universities in |
WriteDown |
Oct-02-08 09:51 AM |
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i didn't say "all", i said "most". nice straw man there. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-02-08 01:12 PM |
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I call them the Gucci protestors. During the coup, they were out there |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-02-08 01:07 PM |
#40 |
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is being "indigenous" a qualification for a student leader? |
Bacchus39 |
Oct-02-08 01:54 PM |
#42 |
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Your exploitation of this death to make weak political points is disgusting. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-02-08 03:47 PM |
#47 |
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I have made no connection of Soto's assassination to your beloved Chavez |
Bacchus39 |
Oct-02-08 07:05 PM |
#55 |
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"unconditional devotion"?! |
harmonicon |
Oct-03-08 03:01 PM |
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You have done nothing but use this kid's death to score points. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-03-08 03:07 PM |
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by indigenous i meant self-originating, rather than originated by elites. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-03-08 03:06 PM |
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Are you sure about that? |
Dorian Gray |
Oct-03-08 08:01 AM |
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The point wasn't that his death isn't wrong but that he wasn't |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-03-08 12:27 PM |
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this is a public university.. |
Mesteryo |
Oct-05-08 05:24 PM |
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That would make too much sense |
ChazII |
Oct-03-08 08:02 AM |
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We know he had about $180K flowing through his bank account every month and about $1.3 million cash |
struggle4progress |
Oct-06-08 07:28 PM |
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If an anti-Bush student protester... |
TCJ70 |
Oct-02-08 12:58 AM |
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I can only answer for myself here: I would immediately suspect them highest. |
tom_paine |
Oct-02-08 01:14 AM |
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who says he accepted the loss? |
Mesteryo |
Oct-05-08 05:37 PM |
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There's no reason to write off anyone right now. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-02-08 01:49 AM |
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probably |
harmonicon |
Oct-02-08 10:51 PM |
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What if Bush had won in two legitimate elections? |
bluestateguy |
Oct-03-08 02:27 PM |
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what if pigs could fly? |
harmonicon |
Oct-03-08 03:04 PM |
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"Tim, that's a hypothetical..." |
bluestateguy |
Oct-03-08 03:06 PM |
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in what respect, Charlie? |
harmonicon |
Oct-03-08 03:13 PM |
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What? |
bitchkitty |
Oct-01-08 08:54 PM |
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The kid was a fundie fascist; why the concern? |
An Intellectual |
Oct-01-08 09:36 PM |
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Right, there's no way that the murder of a political activist we disagree with should bother us. |
Bucky |
Oct-02-08 11:42 PM |
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Because murder |
Dorian Gray |
Oct-03-08 08:03 AM |
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Really? |
bdab1973 |
Oct-03-08 03:34 PM |
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LOL |
ohio2007 |
Oct-01-08 10:34 PM |
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For what reason would supporters of the Bolivarian movement avoid this thread? |
ronnie624 |
Oct-01-08 11:57 PM |
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Nice post. |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-01-08 11:38 PM |
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Do you know that? He could be one of the instigators of the cowardly |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-02-08 12:11 AM |
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Sweet! |
WriteDown |
Oct-02-08 09:53 AM |
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You didn't bother to read the link, did you? |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-02-08 01:04 PM |
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do you consider his murder a cowardly act too? n/t |
Bacchus39 |
Oct-02-08 01:56 PM |
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Have you read this thread? Another waste of time. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-02-08 03:46 PM |
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Good thing someone |
Pavulon |
Oct-02-08 06:33 PM |
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No. My position is that he is not associated with some kind of |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-02-08 11:07 PM |
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prove it... |
Mesteryo |
Oct-05-08 05:40 PM |
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Please prove Chávez was behind hit. n/t. |
freedomnorth |
Oct-17-08 02:38 AM |
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And We Don't Want to Hear From Corporate Stooge Propagandists |
Crisco |
Oct-03-08 09:20 AM |
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This was obviously a false flag operation |
Rage for Order |
Oct-01-08 08:53 PM |
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In no way, |
ronnie624 |
Oct-02-08 12:15 AM |
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Poor child. |
bitchkitty |
Oct-01-08 08:56 PM |
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Not Chavez personally |
Rage for Order |
Oct-01-08 09:00 PM |
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Well, that's quite a leap. |
bitchkitty |
Oct-01-08 09:08 PM |
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The security situation in Venezuela is deteriorating. |
Pterodactyl |
Oct-01-08 09:31 PM |
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heaven forbid his country has industry!! |
harmonicon |
Oct-01-08 09:34 PM |
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Chavez is just Bush in a red shirt. |
Pterodactyl |
Oct-01-08 09:46 PM |
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how do you figure? |
harmonicon |
Oct-01-08 10:18 PM |
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Obviously, he doesn't "figure," or think for that matter. |
bitchkitty |
Oct-01-08 10:40 PM |
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nope |
Pterodactyl |
Oct-02-08 09:51 PM |
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People spouting outrageous, stupid statements |
bitchkitty |
Oct-02-08 11:06 PM |
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No, you go to Jupiter to get more stupider. |
Pterodactyl |
Oct-03-08 12:00 AM |
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Explain to me how Chavez is "Bush in a red shirt" and I"ll take it back. n/t |
bitchkitty |
Oct-03-08 01:08 AM |
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One way? |
Pterodactyl |
Oct-02-08 09:49 PM |
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Wow there are many ways and all wrong |
AlphaCentauri |
Oct-02-08 11:33 PM |
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Your hostage article link cracked me up. |
Pterodactyl |
Oct-03-08 12:05 AM |
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Wow wow!!! only Uribe' trophies count, the peasants and the poor are less valuable than Betancourt |
AlphaCentauri |
Oct-03-08 10:23 AM |
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Appreciate your links, and most clearly the link to information on opposition violence against |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-03-08 03:13 AM |
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It is a shame you are so ill-informed |
carla |
Oct-02-08 12:15 AM |
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Yep.... |
WriteDown |
Oct-02-08 09:55 AM |
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True. The student opposition leader changed from alive to dead. |
Pterodactyl |
Oct-02-08 09:53 PM |
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Add it to the list of Atrocities |
StClone |
Oct-01-08 09:53 PM |
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R.I.P. |
AlphaCentauri |
Oct-01-08 11:12 PM |
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Hopefully the Zulia government will be more conscientious about finding the murderers of this man |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-01-08 11:21 PM |
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Older than I thought he was. |
bitchkitty |
Oct-01-08 11:47 PM |
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That's horrible. That poor family. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-01-08 11:29 PM |
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Looks like a conflict over local student government elections (!) |
Satyagrahi |
Oct-02-08 09:26 AM |
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Update: Some accused Soto of being responsible for the death of two students in November 2007. |
Satyagrahi |
Oct-02-08 03:18 PM |
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Interesting. nt |
Guy Whitey Corngood |
Oct-02-08 03:42 PM |
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Am I reading this right? Two opposition groups were in conflict |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-02-08 03:52 PM |
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They're two phony opposition groups fighting over who'll get the graft |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-03-08 03:11 PM |
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Just found an article written in Spanish which says he was a lad of only 31 years. |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-03-08 03:37 PM |
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ahhh well, those two comments on a blog site clear everything up |
Bacchus39 |
Oct-02-08 06:15 PM |
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I quoted a local newspaper, a report by Venezuelan TV, a video of the clashes, |
Satyagrahi |
Oct-03-08 07:14 AM |
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Hope you have seen the most recent findings in his story. He was up to his |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-15-08 04:23 PM |
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Julio Soto allegedly involved with local "ticket mafia". |
Satyagrahi |
Oct-02-08 07:33 PM |
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Oct-02-08 10:24 AM |
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It's not like they sit around waiting for a Chavez post |
StClone |
Oct-02-08 12:56 PM |
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Let's see what the investigation reveals |
Zorro |
Oct-02-08 04:24 PM |
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That's true. And the Chavez government has no history of political assassinations. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-02-08 05:19 PM |
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Well, there's always a first time |
Zorro |
Oct-02-08 06:24 PM |
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Neither did the CIA |
Pavulon |
Oct-02-08 06:35 PM |
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Our history of political assassination may go all the way back to |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-02-08 10:56 PM |
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Actually, |
ronnie624 |
Oct-03-08 12:24 AM |
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Thanks for posting this group of documents. Going to keep them for future reference. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-03-08 02:53 AM |
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the CIA is known for staging incidents and blaming the left |
Umbriage |
Oct-02-08 07:49 PM |
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Chavez is paranoid about opposition in Venezuela. |
robcon |
Oct-03-08 08:30 AM |
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The Bolivarian government has no history of committing assassinations. |
ronnie624 |
Oct-03-08 09:11 AM |
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The opposition has been caught over and over red handed. |
sfexpat2000 |
Oct-03-08 12:23 PM |
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I have been gone too long. |
RedCloud |
Oct-03-08 12:16 PM |
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More on this schoolboy, from a Spanish article, google translated: |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-04-08 05:19 AM |
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Kicking for this information. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-17-08 01:26 AM |
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Odd article from Caracas discovered late overnight: |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-05-08 03:22 AM |
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This is perhaps related to the reports about the local "ticket mafia". |
Satyagrahi |
Oct-05-08 08:43 AM |
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The gist of the article it seems, |
ronnie624 |
Oct-05-08 09:45 AM |
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Venezuela: 3 suspects in student's killing IDed |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-06-08 05:10 PM |
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Investigation is being hampered by the fascist thug friends of certain US moral lepers, |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-13-08 03:49 PM |
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From El Universal, opposition newspaper: |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-13-08 05:17 PM |
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Contract murdered victim's cell phone implicates him in drug trafficking, stolen cars, tickets |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-15-08 03:58 PM |
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More heartbreaking news in the final pages of this young man's history: |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-15-08 04:09 PM |
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So, he was apparently involved in numerous illegal activities, |
ronnie624 |
Oct-16-08 12:38 AM |
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So driven to get a good kick in at an elected leftist leader they nearly wet themselves, |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-16-08 02:31 AM |
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Thanks. |
ronnie624 |
Oct-16-08 08:40 AM |
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The needs of the many outweigh the life of a non-believer |
wvbygod |
Oct-15-08 04:15 PM |
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How do you connect this "student's" criminality to Hugo Chavez? |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-15-08 04:25 PM |
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I didn't know getting murdered made the victim a criminal |
wvbygod |
Oct-16-08 04:30 PM |
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Your reading comprehension could use some work. No one said that. |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-16-08 06:42 PM |
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Señor Presidente, somebody is responsible for this and should be held accountable |
Jack Rabbit |
Oct-16-08 02:46 AM |
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What keeps you from being aware they have already arrested 8 people, |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-16-08 03:13 AM |
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They're trying to pretend there aren't any articles like this one, from the HUGE Venezuelan paper, |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-16-08 07:17 PM |
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Thank you, Judi Lynn... |
clixtox |
Oct-17-08 07:04 AM |
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You know the right-wing has had the upper hand a long, long time. They crave power, |
Judi Lynn |
Oct-17-08 01:47 PM |
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