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Fri Mar-06-09 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #29 |
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When Chavez crashes and burns, as he surely will, it will be our fault.
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| -Venezuela's Chavez pushes through 26 decrees |
Zorro |
Aug-05-08 09:36 PM |
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Good for Chavez - putting the needs of the people |
bitchkitty |
Aug-05-08 09:49 PM |
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And by decree at that |
wvbygod |
Aug-06-08 12:35 PM |
#51 |
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they voted again...and got it right this time |
ohio2007 |
Mar-04-09 08:43 PM |
#123 |
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Our Venezuelan friends have much to teach us about the workings of democracy |
Psephos |
Aug-05-08 09:53 PM |
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Ask that asshole Carmona why he fears democracy. |
bemildred |
Aug-05-08 09:58 PM |
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and repression will keep him there nt |
realisticphish |
Aug-05-08 10:00 PM |
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And elections will keep him there. nt |
bemildred |
Aug-05-08 10:06 PM |
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elections where he's the only candidate |
realisticphish |
Aug-05-08 10:12 PM |
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There have been no such elections in Venezula, and there will not be. |
bemildred |
Aug-05-08 10:26 PM |
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Not every "Man of the People" becomes a dictator ......hmm |
ohio2007 |
Mar-04-09 08:47 PM |
#124 |
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uh, huh |
paulk |
Aug-05-08 10:39 PM |
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"The Facts about the List of 'Banned Candidates' in Venezuela" |
Peace Patriot |
Aug-06-08 02:21 AM |
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and who appoints this "comptroller general" fellow? |
paulk |
Aug-06-08 09:48 AM |
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Cool...more edicts by chavez appointment and backed up by a chavez blogsite |
wvbygod |
Aug-06-08 12:42 PM |
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Aug-06-08 12:52 PM |
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That's pretty democratic isn't it? lol n/t |
Sezu |
Aug-06-08 12:53 PM |
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DU'ers were aware long ago that the decision to block these candidates being investigated for corrup |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-05-08 10:57 PM |
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The Facts about the List of “Banned Candidates” in Venezuela |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-05-08 11:07 PM |
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Judi Lynn |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 12:30 PM |
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IN our country, "a public official commits fraud, rips off tax payers and steals from all of us" is |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-06-08 01:28 PM |
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Maybe... |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 01:38 PM |
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It doesn't take them long to spew their labels, like Joe McCarthy, without substance. |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-06-08 01:49 PM |
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Thank you!! for these posts. Very much appreciated. |
iconicgnom |
Aug-06-08 11:28 PM |
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Aug-06-08 12:21 PM |
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Making up lies about socialist leaders. Where've I seen that before? |
iconicgnom |
Aug-06-08 11:16 PM |
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ruling by decree is democratic? |
paulk |
Aug-05-08 10:03 PM |
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You need to read up on how law is made here in the good old USA. |
bemildred |
Aug-05-08 10:05 PM |
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what does the status of the USA have to do with Venezuela nt |
realisticphish |
Aug-05-08 10:13 PM |
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"Ruling by decree" is how most law is made here in the USA. |
bemildred |
Aug-05-08 10:23 PM |
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can't you do any better than that? |
paulk |
Aug-05-08 10:24 PM |
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I guess talking to you got me confused about that for a moment ... nt |
bemildred |
Aug-05-08 10:27 PM |
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and here comes the personal insults |
paulk |
Aug-05-08 10:36 PM |
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Well, I just couldn't resist after you started talking about not being stupid and everything. nt |
bemildred |
Aug-05-08 10:43 PM |
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defend Chavez. |
paulk |
Aug-05-08 11:19 PM |
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Aug-05-08 11:26 PM |
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if he'd done it by decree back then he would have had a civil war |
paulk |
Aug-05-08 11:39 PM |
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The reforms he was interested in were 33, not the entire 69 issues which appeared in the referendum. |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-06-08 01:07 AM |
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then why did he try to shove all 69 down the throat of VZ? |
paulk |
Aug-06-08 09:41 AM |
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Rest assured... |
Flatulo |
Mar-06-09 09:15 PM |
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No. You don't listen, you just insult. |
bemildred |
Aug-06-08 07:30 AM |
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LOL! |
paulk |
Aug-06-08 09:35 AM |
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Explain why you think it's "undemocratic" for Bill Clinton to have reinstated aid-- |
eridani |
Aug-06-08 06:20 PM |
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get real - |
paulk |
Aug-06-08 08:55 PM |
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Explain what the difference is between a "decree" and an "executive order" n/t |
eridani |
Aug-07-08 06:08 AM |
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I doubt that anyone who isn't a complete fucking idiot |
paulk |
Aug-07-08 10:34 AM |
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Really? |
IggyReed |
Aug-07-08 01:07 PM |
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those policies did not result from executive orders |
paulk |
Aug-07-08 01:27 PM |
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Aug-07-08 02:08 PM |
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It's obvious. Because King Hugo knows best. |
Dave From Canada |
Mar-07-09 06:02 PM |
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Aug-06-08 01:34 AM |
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How can you back Chavez... |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 12:38 PM |
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OK. Is instituting laws by decree that have been VOTED DOWN by the citzenry democratic? |
rinsd |
Aug-06-08 04:46 PM |
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This is rule by decree: |
bemildred |
Aug-06-08 05:16 PM |
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I'll take that as agreement that rule by decree is not democratic. |
rinsd |
Aug-06-08 05:35 PM |
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It also seems to be O.K. when US puppets rule by decree, and it seems it was fine |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-06-08 05:46 PM |
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The point is that "Rule by decree" is not the same thing as making law by decree. |
bemildred |
Aug-06-08 05:58 PM |
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So using law by decree to circumvent a democratic vote by the citizenry is democratic... |
rinsd |
Aug-06-08 06:10 PM |
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No, it's autocratic, authoritarian, especially is there is no way to appeal. |
bemildred |
Aug-06-08 06:20 PM |
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And it's OK when Gacria and Uribe do it? |
eridani |
Aug-06-08 06:21 PM |
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"Didn't consult major business groups"? Oh, the humanity! |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-05-08 10:01 PM |
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True enough |
Texano78704 |
Aug-07-08 08:12 PM |
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Is this the same business community that failed to "consult" with Chavez when trying to kill him??? |
Selatius |
Aug-05-08 10:06 PM |
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Venezuela makes only minor change to bank law (Reuters) |
struggle4progress |
Aug-05-08 10:38 PM |
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Thanks for the illuminating article from Reuters, of all sources! Very interesting. |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-05-08 11:10 PM |
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The international banking community needed an accurate report, I should guess |
struggle4progress |
Aug-05-08 11:35 PM |
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What? |
Texano78704 |
Aug-07-08 08:15 PM |
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Quite the spin on that AP article as per usual. Who wouldn't immediate stampede over to ask question |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-05-08 11:24 PM |
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Some of the laws referenced in the OP |
Rage for Order |
Aug-05-08 11:29 PM |
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That would only alarm whore/hogs who have been bilking the masses. |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-05-08 11:37 PM |
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You're being snarky with the wrong person |
Rage for Order |
Aug-05-08 11:41 PM |
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Who wouldn't have noticed you were using the article? You said you were, as in "OP." n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-06-08 01:05 AM |
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The I have to wonder... |
Rage for Order |
Aug-06-08 08:19 PM |
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So you endorse the creation of Venezuelan paramilitary organizations |
Zorro |
Aug-06-08 09:08 AM |
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New Decrees From Chávez Mirror Spurned Measures |
Bacchus39 |
Aug-06-08 07:39 AM |
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It's the Associated Pukes. So we're only getting half the story... |
Peace Patriot |
Aug-06-08 02:10 AM |
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it is not helpful that our candidate repeats the puke mantra |
leftchick |
Aug-06-08 07:43 AM |
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I learn many things on these threads |
Zorro |
Aug-06-08 09:11 AM |
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And the thug expands his President for Life status. |
onehandle |
Aug-06-08 06:00 AM |
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When Chavez rule by decree, it's "democratic" |
robcon |
Aug-06-08 07:19 AM |
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Many, many DUers approve Bush-like behavior, |
Snarkturian Clone |
Aug-06-08 07:37 AM |
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Those same DUers are allergic to the phrase 'I was wrong' |
Dreamer Tatum |
Aug-06-08 01:04 PM |
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LOL! |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 01:18 PM |
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Blahblah ChavezgoodUSAbad blahblah |
Dreamer Tatum |
Aug-06-08 01:24 PM |
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... |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 01:47 PM |
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Bush's puppet Peruvian President Alan Garcia also used these powers given him |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-06-08 02:16 PM |
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What the HELL are you blathering about? |
Dreamer Tatum |
Aug-06-08 03:24 PM |
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What I said was as clear as can be |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 04:15 PM |
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Your inconsistency disqualifies you |
Dreamer Tatum |
Aug-06-08 04:25 PM |
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Pure delusion |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 04:35 PM |
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Why would you not be aware of American oil business in Venezuela? |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-06-08 04:51 PM |
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Ain't that the truth |
nels25 |
Aug-06-08 02:31 PM |
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Come on |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 03:43 PM |
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So glad to see your informed posts. As you are aware, there are far too few people crowding |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-06-08 03:54 PM |
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Amazing, isn't it? nt |
Flatulo |
Mar-06-09 09:35 PM |
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Explain this for me, the "president for life" thing |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 12:49 PM |
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Don't even go THERE! lol |
Mika |
Mar-05-09 12:38 AM |
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Good! He has to do something about RW Colombian drug-trafficking death squads. |
Joanne98 |
Aug-06-08 10:06 AM |
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Don't hold your breath for those |
Dreamer Tatum |
Aug-06-08 01:03 PM |
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It's only a matter of time before the concert... |
twiceshy |
Aug-06-08 11:05 AM |
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Didn't know they traveled in swarms |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-06-08 03:26 PM |
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Aug-06-08 03:30 PM |
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Back at ya |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 04:19 PM |
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Fuck the business groups but what's the story with the militias? |
anonymous171 |
Aug-06-08 03:34 PM |
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Colombian? The ones hired by the Venezuelan oligarchy? |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-06-08 03:42 PM |
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It's essentially his private army |
Dreamer Tatum |
Aug-06-08 04:13 PM |
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Hugo thinks that is plenty of time to invade Iran and kick his ass |
ohio2007 |
Aug-06-08 04:34 PM |
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More US exceptionalism... |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 04:40 PM |
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This is what I'm talking about |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 04:49 PM |
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better check your #'s |
ohio2007 |
Aug-06-08 04:51 PM |
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Yep |
IggyReed |
Aug-06-08 04:59 PM |
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judging by your post count |
ohio2007 |
Aug-06-08 07:28 PM |
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More amazingly brilliant comments from you, you're even more clever than you think you are |
IggyReed |
Aug-07-08 12:38 PM |
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You imagine Venezuela should be free to be overrun by the Colombian paramilitaries hired by the |
Judi Lynn |
Aug-06-08 04:57 PM |
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Judi, you have zero credibility with me when it comes to matters Venezuelan |
Dreamer Tatum |
Aug-06-08 11:48 PM |
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There is nothing rich people fear more than poor people who can defend themselves. |
killbotfactory |
Aug-06-08 06:13 PM |
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a mixture of two things |
Anarcho-Socialist |
Aug-07-08 08:08 AM |
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Mugabe used to be a hero to many DUers.. |
Imajika |
Aug-06-08 07:43 PM |
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Chavez = Mugabe, you say. That's a flat out lie. |
iconicgnom |
Aug-06-08 11:45 PM |
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I challenge you to produce evidence supporting your claim |
ronnie624 |
Aug-07-08 12:36 AM |
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I disagree with some of that |
Anarcho-Socialist |
Aug-07-08 08:15 AM |
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Well, your opinion is exactly right. |
Dave From Canada |
Mar-07-09 06:05 PM |
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Venezuelans protest Chavez's new socialist push |
ohio2007 |
Aug-06-08 08:49 PM |
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More crap |
IggyReed |
Aug-07-08 12:03 PM |
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How's that government-managed economy doing? |
Zorro |
Aug-06-08 10:57 PM |
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Give it time. It worked in Japan. |
iconicgnom |
Aug-06-08 11:49 PM |
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Maybe Chavez should take the Japanese, rather than the East German economic model, then |
robcon |
Aug-07-08 01:39 PM |
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Have you read or heard about the book "MITI" by Chalmers Johnson? |
IggyReed |
Aug-07-08 01:56 PM |
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Japan also... |
WriteDown |
Aug-07-08 02:34 PM |
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Venezuela to Cut Oil Contracts as Prices Fall ( six month bump for a Rule by Decree review) |
ohio2007 |
Mar-04-09 08:40 PM |
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I'm glad you kicked this thread. It's a classic. n/t |
EFerrari |
Mar-06-09 02:00 AM |
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It is an oldie but goodie, isn't it? They get so crabby when they're helpless, don't they? |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-06-09 02:48 AM |
#127 |
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