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  -Chavez says Obama "lost in space" on Latin America Freddie Stubbs  Aug-16-09 06:06 PM   #0 
  - Yawn. nt  bemildred   Aug-16-09 06:09 PM   #1 
  - Reuters job description: Begin with "a rambling weekly television and radio show"  L. Coyote   Oct-03-09 08:58 AM   #199 
  - Doesn't he have something that needs nationalizing? n/t  Akoto   Aug-16-09 06:10 PM   #2 
  - lol, Mr Whipple is a gringo thief, take over the toilet paper factory .  ohio2007   Aug-16-09 07:10 PM   #53 
  - His hair, perhaps?  Deja Q   Aug-16-09 07:46 PM   #68 
  - You mean like health care? :) Horror of horrors! That would get the right-wingnuts going!  Better Believe It   Aug-16-09 10:54 PM   #126 
  - In the Andromeda nebula?  WriteDown   Aug-16-09 06:12 PM   #3 
  - He should say that we need a Mexican military base in Louisiana  AlphaCentauri   Aug-16-09 11:52 PM   #143 
  - Louisiana can probably use it. nt.  WriteDown   Aug-17-09 06:57 AM   #175 
     - but patriots will refused n/t  AlphaCentauri   Aug-17-09 10:52 AM   #181 
        - Maybe you meant "parrishs." nt  WriteDown   Aug-17-09 12:29 PM   #182 
  - Someone should tell that space cadet Chavez that it is a galaxy, not a nebula  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-17-09 09:12 AM   #176 
     - I just assumed he was talking about something else...  WriteDown   Aug-17-09 09:34 AM   #179 
  - Chavez is only saying what most Latin American leaders are thinking.  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:13 PM   #4 
  - Lanny Davis > Hillary  Wilms   Aug-16-09 06:18 PM   #5 
  - Something is wrong. They have Obama denying the 7 bases  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:22 PM   #6 
     - We have access to the bases, they are not US exclsive or controlled facilities  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 06:26 PM   #11 
        - Search LatAm leaders on this issue. They are all in agreement. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:28 PM   #15 
        - So what?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 06:29 PM   #16 
           - So what? Now, there's a LatAm policy for you.  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:32 PM   #21 
           - So what?  Wilms   Aug-16-09 06:34 PM   #23 
           - It was a flippant answer to a specious statement  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 06:43 PM   #35 
              - I suggested you search the opinions of Latin American leaders.  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:45 PM   #37 
              - "Chavez does not speak for all of it" is another flippant and specious statement.  Wilms   Aug-16-09 06:46 PM   #38 
              - Your own link points out that Peru is fine with it  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 07:09 PM   #51 
                 - Gee. OK.  Wilms   Aug-16-09 07:11 PM   #54 
                 - Its obvious why but it stills puts a hole in the monothlithic block meme  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 07:19 PM   #59 
                    - What is monolithic in the world? And how does it's lack de-legitimize the international concern?  Wilms   Aug-16-09 07:21 PM   #61 
                       - To claim that Obama is about to start a new round of mitiary adventurism in LatAm  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 07:42 PM   #66 
                          - "Keep harping" but we got it already about the ceilings, leasing, and what all.  Wilms   Aug-16-09 07:51 PM   #69 
                          - You seem to get it, others here do not, thus the harping  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 08:13 PM   #75 
                          - Who is assuming? Not what I wrote.  Wilms   Aug-16-09 08:27 PM   #76 
                          - Then I misunderstood what you posted and apologize  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 09:00 PM   #86 
                          - I don't think the Russians are going to let that happen.  Grinchie   Aug-16-09 09:55 PM   #101 
                             - And just how is Russia going stop it?  hack89   Aug-17-09 06:20 AM   #174 
                          - Your last sentence nails it.  Grinchie   Aug-16-09 09:52 PM   #98 
                          - And just explain why they would not be worried about it?  Grinchie   Aug-16-09 09:47 PM   #97 
                          - The US doesn't have to 'raise the troop ceiling'  sabrina 1   Aug-16-09 10:08 PM   #104 
                          - You must be confused.  ronnie624   Aug-17-09 12:19 AM   #148 
                 - What a crock -- Backing out with a Semantic Meaning defense.  Grinchie   Aug-16-09 09:41 PM   #95 
              - They do speak for themselves: "Argentina worries over U.S. military bases in Colombia"  Judi Lynn   Aug-18-09 04:08 AM   #195 
              - Brazil's Lula Proposes Meeting With Obama On Colombian  Judi Lynn   Aug-18-09 05:21 PM   #196 
           - Obviously the US's history of supporting dictators, toppling democracies &  Vidar   Aug-16-09 10:04 PM   #102 
        - I totally agree with what you said but...  SkyDaddy7   Aug-16-09 06:29 PM   #17 
        - That's just silly. This isn't about Chavez. There is no one in Latin America  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:33 PM   #22 
        - Alan Garcia's current rating with his citizens is 27%. He had his military fire on protesters  Judi Lynn   Aug-17-09 02:36 AM   #164 
        - the same kind of thing could be said about any politician including Obama...  Swagman   Aug-16-09 09:09 PM   #89 
        - I agree with that. He is using the Honesty defense.  Grinchie   Aug-17-09 12:02 AM   #144 
        - Explain how your opinion of Chavez, childish as it is  sabrina 1   Aug-16-09 10:25 PM   #113 
        - how many foreign soldiers do you think the US should house?  harmonicon   Aug-16-09 07:07 PM   #50 
        - Maybe the FARC rebells will rally the people behind their cause to drive them out  ohio2007   Aug-16-09 07:31 PM   #65 
           - so, how many was that?  harmonicon   Aug-16-09 07:58 PM   #70 
           - I'm still waiting  harmonicon   Aug-17-09 08:01 PM   #188 
        - Why the hell should "you" have access there?  Duende azul   Aug-17-09 08:40 PM   #190 
  - I always thought those die hard trekkies were a little weird...  WriteDown   Aug-16-09 06:23 PM   #7 
  - which one is Chavez?? None of them seem fat enough or stupid looking enough to be Chavez  Bacchus39   Aug-16-09 06:26 PM   #12 
  - The "n/t" is useless when not placed in the subject line, but in the text area.  Wilms   Aug-16-09 06:38 PM   #29 
  - With some ink, Chavez could do a good Chakotay imitation  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 06:41 PM   #33 
     - What do you know about the education of Hugo Chavez? Thanks.  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:46 PM   #39 
        - Much nore that you do about the situation in Hawaii...but his resume does not include  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 06:55 PM   #44 
           - That's what I thought. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:56 PM   #46 
              - Then we agree. Chavez's education is readily accessible, it does not include acting school  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 07:15 PM   #55 
                 - Probably the world does not consider Drama school part of civics  AlphaCentauri   Aug-17-09 10:03 PM   #192 
                    - I love your comment. It reminds me of Republican Rep. David Drier's speech in Colombia  Judi Lynn   Aug-18-09 01:41 AM   #193 
  - Like this one?  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:54 PM   #43 
  - I AGREE WITH CHAVEZ  dotymed   Aug-16-09 09:54 PM   #100 
  - I suspect many are - and they are pulling in different directions  karynnj   Aug-16-09 10:58 PM   #129 
  - It is amusing when his statements targeted to Latin America get out to the rest of us  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 06:23 PM   #8 
  - Ignore him at your peril. He is speaking for even dedicated moderates like Lula.  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:27 PM   #13 
  - Lula and others do not need Chavez to speak for them. That Chavez want to be a  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 06:35 PM   #25 
     - yep, Obama talks to Lula. Obama doesn't talk to Chavez. n/t  Bacchus39   Aug-16-09 06:36 PM   #27 
     - Newsflash: Chavez is a regional leader. The moderates let him  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:39 PM   #31 
     - Chavez is a regional leader, cupcake.  bitchkitty   Aug-16-09 06:44 PM   #36 
        - He dreams of greater conquests  ohio2007   Aug-16-09 07:25 PM   #62 
           - Ah, you are privy to his dreams.  bitchkitty   Aug-16-09 09:08 PM   #88 
           - Say what you will, seeing him luvvin' on Ahmadinejad does not make me glow with admiration n/t  Psephos   Aug-16-09 09:30 PM   #93 
              - THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY (US IMPERIALISM)  dotymed   Aug-16-09 10:10 PM   #105 
              - With friends like that, who needs enemies? n/t  Psephos   Aug-16-09 10:21 PM   #111 
              - With friends like the U.S., who needs enemies?  ronnie624   Aug-17-09 12:47 AM   #153 
              - Then say hi to your friends Mahmoud and Osama for me, n/t  conturnedpro09   Aug-16-09 10:43 PM   #121 
              - Sounds ta me like you's one of them there dad gummed Islamo Fascists, sonny!  Judi Lynn   Aug-17-09 05:00 AM   #171 
              - Neither does Iran and Venezula selling oil for Euros, like Saddam.  Grinchie   Aug-17-09 12:15 AM   #146 
           - You forgot someone...  WriteDown   Aug-16-09 11:02 PM   #131 
  - Hugo really isn't that important is he? Obama certainly doesn't pay him any mind n/t  Bacchus39   Aug-16-09 06:30 PM   #18 
     - Given the choice of which one is a space cadet, I'll back Obama as the most in touch with reality  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 07:21 PM   #60 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-17-09 12:18 AM   #147 
  - Warning, Will Robinson! Danger! Danger! n/t  Ian David   Aug-16-09 06:24 PM   #9 
  - Hugo is stating the obvious.  roody   Aug-16-09 06:25 PM   #10 
  - that Obama is lost in Andromeda?? n/t  Bacchus39   Aug-16-09 06:28 PM   #14 
  - Yep.  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:31 PM   #19 
  - So you agree with his statement that :"This is just the start of an imperial military expansion,"  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 06:31 PM   #20 
     - Are you arguing that he intends to occupy 7 bases for no reason?  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:34 PM   #24 
        - Who is he? Too many indefinite pronouns in use  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 06:38 PM   #30 
           - Seven bases per his national security adviser and no, this can't be made to be  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:40 PM   #32 
           - *USE OF* seven bases, not *OWNERSHIP*. No increase in the troop limitation  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 06:54 PM   #42 
              - LOL. Seven new bases and Latin American leaders are united against it.  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:55 PM   #45 
              - Use of bases and no increase in the total troops allowed  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 07:06 PM   #49 
              - 7 Bases in Colombia, Two on Nearby Islands and the Fourth Fleet.  justinaforjustice   Aug-16-09 08:57 PM   #83 
              - Is there still a base in Suriname?  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 09:09 PM   #90 
              - Not That I Could Find.  justinaforjustice   Aug-16-09 09:34 PM   #94 
                 - There used to be a facility at Zandary(sp).  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 09:44 PM   #96 
              - Excellent post, thank you. (nt)  scarletwoman   Aug-16-09 09:17 PM   #92 
              - I appreciate your concern but by your own words, use of 7 bases is not that much of a change to the  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 10:26 PM   #114 
              - Excellent post, thank you  sabrina 1   Aug-17-09 01:40 AM   #160 
              - Thanks for your great information. I had heard about a base on Curacao.  Judi Lynn   Aug-17-09 05:06 AM   #172 
              - Thank you, Justina! I'm old enough to remember the U.S. "military advisors" in Vietnam.  Peace Patriot   Aug-17-09 09:29 AM   #178 
              - REALLY PROFESSOR?  dotymed   Aug-16-09 10:20 PM   #110 
              - Last I heard, the CIA doesn't own any Bases at all.  Grinchie   Aug-17-09 12:31 AM   #150 
              - A U.S. citizen criticizing the military expenditures of another country?  ronnie624   Aug-17-09 12:54 AM   #154 
           - Hear you are, Teach.  Wilms   Aug-16-09 06:43 PM   #34 
              - Very nicely done.  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:47 PM   #41 
              - Perhaps EFerrari will read the swissinfo link you provided  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 07:01 PM   #48 
                 - Perhaps a discussion about Manuel Rosales should precede that.  Wilms   Aug-16-09 07:09 PM   #52 
                 - So you do agree with Chavez that this is the start of military imperialism by Obama in LatAm?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 07:17 PM   #57 
                    - Did he say, "start". I'd disagree.  Wilms   Aug-16-09 07:18 PM   #58 
                       - Its a direct quote from the article in the OP citing Chavez  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 07:25 PM   #63 
                          - Ah. EXPANSION. That's different.  Wilms   Aug-16-09 07:28 PM   #64 
                          - Because they choose to...doesn't make them right and Obama wrong  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 08:02 PM   #71 
                             - Nor, to you, are the opinions of many LA leaders compelling, or authoritative.  Wilms   Aug-16-09 08:12 PM   #73 
                             - Chile has it right, its about sovereignty, and Columbia is free to ignore Chavez and others  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 08:58 PM   #84 
                                - Professor  dotymed   Aug-16-09 10:46 PM   #124 
                                   - Ok, you are anti-Obama...how does that change the scenario and possible outcomes?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 10:57 PM   #128 
                             - I fail to see the "progressive" points you are making here, Profe.  RedCloud   Aug-16-09 08:44 PM   #80 
                                - My points are is that this is not a substantive change in affairs and is the opportunity for Obama  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 09:54 PM   #99 
                                   - .  Wilms   Aug-16-09 10:11 PM   #106 
                                   - !  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 10:32 PM   #116 
                                      - And the fact that the military IS engaged in two shooting wars goes to character.  Wilms   Aug-16-09 10:38 PM   #119 
                                   - "this is not a substantive change in affairs." True. It's a war CONTINUUM.  Peace Patriot   Aug-17-09 10:23 AM   #180 
                          - It doesn't look like a direct quote to me.  ronnie624   Aug-17-09 01:57 AM   #163 
                 - NOTHING TO CONSIDER IN PERU  dotymed   Aug-16-09 10:34 PM   #118 
                 - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-17-09 12:45 AM   #152 
  - Chavez has much more experience with these sort of things...  greennina   Aug-16-09 06:35 PM   #26 
  - Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Paraguay  EFerrari   Aug-16-09 06:37 PM   #28 
  - Hugo habla para m n/t  bitchkitty   Aug-16-09 06:46 PM   #40 
  - I doubt he speaks para ti, por ti definitely n/t  Bacchus39   Aug-16-09 07:43 PM   #67 
  - mmm the Andomeda strain...  tocqueville   Aug-16-09 06:58 PM   #47 
  - Chavez is speaking for his own country, I haven't figured out  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 07:16 PM   #56 
  - Pretty much whichever corporation is handy.  Vidar   Aug-16-09 10:23 PM   #112 
  - Colombia (U.S. ally) = Death Squads, mass graves. Venezuela (U.S. enemy) = zero mass graves.  troubledamerican   Aug-16-09 08:04 PM   #72 
  - US policy in LA  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 08:12 PM   #74 
  - For pro-Uribe DUers  troubledamerican   Aug-16-09 08:46 PM   #81 
     - umm....the videos are about Honduras  Bacchus39   Aug-16-09 09:11 PM   #91 
  - Thank you. Well and succinctly said. (nt)  scarletwoman   Aug-16-09 09:00 PM   #85 
  - Why should it be surprising...  ProudDad   Aug-16-09 08:32 PM   #77 
  - AOL? do you by chance mean AWOL?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 08:36 PM   #78 
     - DOH!!!!  ProudDad   Aug-16-09 10:18 PM   #108 
        - I know that Prodigy is closing soon, can AOL be far behind?  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 10:33 PM   #117 
  - He had better be thankful that Obama won the election  liberal N proud   Aug-16-09 08:39 PM   #79 
  - Would it really matter? We are riding a runaway.  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 08:53 PM   #82 
  - I have a feeling they will both through a shoe and need to be put down.  Grinchie   Aug-17-09 12:54 AM   #155 
     - And what happens when they come home?  Downwinder   Aug-17-09 01:05 AM   #156 
  - Not much different  ProudDad   Aug-16-09 10:19 PM   #109 
  - Thug. nt  onehandle   Aug-16-09 09:06 PM   #87 
  - +1.  jefferson_dem   Aug-16-09 10:04 PM   #103 
  - The thug is the man with the death squads, and the intelligence agency which spies on opposition  Judi Lynn   Aug-16-09 10:16 PM   #107 
  - Thank you for your research.  roody   Aug-16-09 10:32 PM   #115 
     - Probable won't wake up until the government bank  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 10:49 PM   #125 
     - I spent 5 days with communities in  roody   Aug-16-09 11:39 PM   #140 
        - In the early 70s you could wander around Bogota at 3:00 am  Downwinder   Aug-17-09 12:03 AM   #145 
           - Some people may remember seeing a program on tv concerning the big market there  Judi Lynn   Aug-17-09 04:54 AM   #169 
           - People do not go out at night much.  roody   Aug-17-09 08:10 PM   #189 
     - You've met people most of us can only read about. They have been forced off their own land  Judi Lynn   Aug-17-09 04:38 AM   #168 
  - We're the ones getting seven new bases, not Chavez.  EFerrari   Aug-17-09 01:23 AM   #157 
     - Welcome. Pretty quiet down here.  Downwinder   Aug-17-09 01:30 AM   #158 
  - how much is the US paying for access to these bases? .nt  excess_3   Aug-16-09 10:39 PM   #120 
  - Depends on the agreement  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 10:45 PM   #123 
     - Does the immunity from prosecution cost extra? n/t  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 10:54 PM   #127 
        - That would be covered in the Status Of Forces Argreement (SOFA) and varies between nations  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 11:09 PM   #133 
           - Pretty good duty, all the nookie you can take. Every base  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 11:16 PM   #135 
              - Never saw a Po City equivalent in Germany and the original one is now long gone  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 11:31 PM   #136 
                 - Longapo had a better than 100% VD rate. Figured the ones  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 11:37 PM   #137 
                    - Legends always have their basis in reality somewhere  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 11:38 PM   #139 
                       - But Subic had a great golf course.  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 11:45 PM   #142 
  - Because dictatorship is so much better, right?  Seldona   Aug-16-09 10:43 PM   #122 
  - That is what GW said. n /t  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 11:02 PM   #130 
  - A lefty leader in the western hemisphere?..RUN FOR YOUR FUCKING LIVES!!!!  Union Yes   Aug-16-09 11:05 PM   #132 
  - I think I've seen this show before.  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 11:13 PM   #134 
     - How about Chile in the early 70s  ProgressiveProfessor   Aug-16-09 11:37 PM   #138 
        - All of the horses got eaten, We starved them.  Downwinder   Aug-16-09 11:39 PM   #141 
  - Who's Doctor Smith?  Algorem   Aug-17-09 12:22 AM   #149 
  - I think he was lost in space. n/t  Downwinder   Aug-17-09 12:38 AM   #151 
  - I've been saying for yrs this guy is one big nut  democracy1st   Aug-17-09 01:36 AM   #159 
  - Somebody does not think so, he gets coverage. Why?  Downwinder   Aug-17-09 01:43 AM   #161 
  - Um, the consensus is with him. How does that make HIM a nut?  EFerrari   Aug-17-09 01:47 AM   #162 
  - And a pretty smart one too.  Prometheus Bound   Aug-17-09 03:40 AM   #165 
     - He must be doing something right for the people of Venezuela to overthrow the coup  Judi Lynn   Aug-17-09 04:18 AM   #166 
  - Colombia air base at centre of US storm  Judi Lynn   Aug-17-09 04:27 AM   #167 
  - is he saying "Danger Will Robinson" ???  CreekDog   Aug-17-09 04:56 AM   #170 
  - Obama Calls For Action in Britain's Biggest Fraud - Carroll Trust Case  carrolltrust   Aug-17-09 06:16 AM   #173 
  - What does that have to do with Chavez, Latin America, or outer space?  Freddie Stubbs   Aug-17-09 02:59 PM   #184 
  - American politicians could alway use a little more education on Latin America  junior college   Aug-17-09 09:25 AM   #177 
  - A couple of thoughts after reading this thread. No. 1: The parallel to Vietnam.  Peace Patriot   Aug-17-09 12:37 PM   #183 
  - He has hope for Obama. Chavez does not see Obama as an enemy at all.  David__77   Aug-17-09 03:19 PM   #185 
  - Hugo, we hardly knew ye...  marshall   Aug-17-09 06:37 PM   #186 
  - I think he thought he would be, too. But we're supporting the coup  EFerrari   Aug-17-09 07:59 PM   #187 
  - "We are not asking you to intervene in Honduras, Obama"  Duende azul   Aug-17-09 08:55 PM   #191 
  - Mercosur parliament condemns coup in Honduras  Judi Lynn   Aug-18-09 03:56 AM   #194 
  - Goodman Derrick Ian Montrose "named" in $1,000,000,000 FBI Carroll Trust Charities Fraud Case  carrolltrust   Sep-10-09 07:52 AM   #197 
  - This should be interesting  JonQ   Sep-10-09 08:56 AM   #198 
  - I have no problem pulling from military bases in Latin America  DatManFromNawlins   Oct-03-09 09:22 PM   #200 
     - US Aid to the World  Braulio   Oct-04-09 09:06 AM   #201 
 

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