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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-28-07 03:04 PM
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40. Everyone has a right to feel safe from bigots and killers.
Wouldn't you agree? I'll assume you do and proceed.

If the press release said "bar owner excludes gays from entering bar because it makes the heterosexual customers uncomfortable to watch two men or two women kissing," that would be bigotry, wouldn't you agree? I'll assume you do and proceed.

To exclude a certain group of people who can't control who they are (i.e. being straight, gay, black, white, etc, etc) is bigotry. Doesn't matter how the person or persons doing the controlling try to justify the matter, it's still bigotry. You might not agree with that so I won't assume - but I'll still proceed. But...

Maybe you know it's bigotry, but you think it's deserved bigotry. Well, if you hit me with stick on Monday and I hit you with a stick on Wednesday, I assaulted you on Wednesday no less than you assaulted me on Monday. You deserved it, but it's still assault and more people are going to remember what happened on Wednesday than will remember what happened on Monday.

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  -Australian pub bars heterosexuals Forkboy  May-28-07 12:11 PM   #0 
  - How do they administer the test criteria?  BushDespiser12   May-28-07 12:13 PM   #1 
  - Now, that's a good question!  Fridays Child   May-28-07 12:19 PM   #2 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-28-07 01:23 PM   #6 
  - Your humor is in really bad taste, ya know?  KzooDem   May-28-07 01:32 PM   #8 
  - any form of bigotry  mediawatch   May-28-07 01:39 PM   #12 
  - I wasn't referring to the original story...I was referring to your bad taste in humor.  KzooDem   May-28-07 01:49 PM   #17 
     - you misunderstood  mediawatch   May-28-07 01:54 PM   #21 
     - Okay, I believe you.  KzooDem   May-28-07 02:08 PM   #24 
        - this for you  mediawatch   May-28-07 02:14 PM   #27 
     - No, the 1st Amendment gives him that  Bronyraurus   May-29-07 11:58 AM   #86 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-28-07 05:19 PM   #44 
     - Yay! Another homophobe to add to my DU list.  JackBeck   May-28-07 05:59 PM   #51 
     - How is this homophobic?  jollyreaper2112   May-28-07 09:07 PM   #67 
        - Yes, your joke was vulgar.  JackBeck   May-28-07 11:09 PM   #68 
        - thank you for speaking for all of DU  jollyreaper2112   May-29-07 07:38 AM   #84 
           - You're welcome.  JackBeck   May-30-07 12:39 PM   #94 
        - B.S.  ThomCat   May-31-07 11:58 AM   #127 
     - oh goodness  mediawatch   May-28-07 07:29 PM   #55 
  - There are rules here  Madspirit   May-28-07 02:31 PM   #36 
  - Swallowing is not a gay term.  Blashyrkh   May-29-07 02:26 AM   #80 
  - And how is this anything but offensive?  LostinVA   May-28-07 05:42 PM   #47 
  - Your post disgusts me. n/t  Sapphocrat   May-28-07 05:43 PM   #48 
  - I doubt you're big enough. n/t  JackBeck   May-28-07 05:56 PM   #50 
  - Bigotry/racism twice in one day? CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!  flvegan   May-28-07 07:38 PM   #56 
  - Ask them if this jacket goes with this tie.  A HERETIC I AM   May-28-07 01:39 PM   #13 
  - only a hetero could wear that...  BushDespiser12   May-28-07 01:41 PM   #15 
  - Wondering same?..n/t.  zidzi   May-28-07 08:48 PM   #66 
  - banned for their own protection??  Blue_Tires   May-28-07 12:24 PM   #3 
  - wow... talk about an insanely bad idea  Clovis Sangrail   May-28-07 01:01 PM   #4 
  - That happens by default in a lot of places.  ThomCat   May-31-07 12:06 PM   #128 
  - What a terrible idea.  Kingshakabobo   May-28-07 01:19 PM   #5 
  - It is a great club too BTW  dsc   May-28-07 01:34 PM   #9 
  - Actually, I was thinking of Madrigals............  Kingshakabobo   May-28-07 01:44 PM   #16 
     - They were here in NOLA for awhile.  Behind the Aegis   May-28-07 02:12 PM   #26 
     - Evidently amateur night at the Corner Pocket was more for NOLA's taste.  nealmhughes   May-28-07 06:46 PM   #52 
        - LOL!  Behind the Aegis   May-28-07 11:58 PM   #74 
     - I was on Melrose  dsc   May-28-07 02:14 PM   #28 
        - It was up in Andersonville on Clark Street for ever.........  Kingshakabobo   May-28-07 02:34 PM   #38 
           - damn  dsc   May-28-07 03:14 PM   #41 
  - Well, there's a bar here, Charlie's, that's trying to discourage bacherlorette parties.  terrya   May-28-07 01:38 PM   #11 
  - Question: Where else can women go if they want to see men strip, though?  Clark2008   May-28-07 01:52 PM   #19 
  - Well, I understand your frustration.  terrya   May-28-07 01:57 PM   #22 
  - I've always wondered.  Clark2008   May-28-07 02:10 PM   #25 
  - I think it has something to do with the idea..........  Kingshakabobo   May-28-07 02:22 PM   #32 
  - OK - but wouldn't the same be true of the serious heterosexual  Clark2008   May-28-07 02:30 PM   #35 
  - They can have the party at a house and order strippers to visit  JVS   May-28-07 02:34 PM   #39 
  - As a hetero man...  IA_Seth   May-30-07 02:58 PM   #114 
  - The issue is not always behavior.  ThomCat   May-31-07 12:11 PM   #129 
  - That's dumb  Bassic   May-28-07 01:25 PM   #7 
  - management said the move would stop groups of heterosexual men and women abusing gay people.  Edweird   May-28-07 01:37 PM   #10 
  - LOL! Good for them!  sfexpat2000   May-28-07 01:39 PM   #14 
  - The problem with this is that anti-gay fuckheads will try and spin this.  originalpckelly   May-28-07 01:50 PM   #18 
  - Sounds a bit like banning white people from clubs because of what the Klan has done  RGBolen   May-28-07 01:52 PM   #20 
  - This blurb out of Australia is a victory for bigots world-wide.  Balbus   May-28-07 02:03 PM   #23 
  - Screw THAT  Madspirit   May-28-07 02:21 PM   #30 
     - Everyone has a right to feel safe from bigots and killers.  Balbus   May-28-07 03:04 PM   #40 
     - Go Own Something  Madspirit   May-28-07 03:34 PM   #42 
     - I'm glad you agree.  Balbus   May-28-07 06:48 PM   #53 
     - What a load of semantic masturbation.  ThomCat   May-31-07 12:20 PM   #131 
     - No-one has a right to feel safe.  Donald Ian Rankin   May-30-07 12:45 PM   #95 
     - Absolutely!  ThomCat   May-31-07 12:17 PM   #130 
  - I don't know what planet  Madspirit   May-28-07 02:19 PM   #29 
  - Rule number one: no non-pooftahs!  C_eh_N_eh_D_eh   May-28-07 02:22 PM   #31 
  - Your name IS Bruce, isn't it?  bunkerbuster1   May-30-07 02:14 PM   #110 
  - LASTLY  Madspirit   May-28-07 02:27 PM   #33 
  - But throw out the straights who do it rather than assume all  treestar   May-28-07 08:42 PM   #61 
     - Oh Cry Me a River  Madspirit   May-28-07 11:32 PM   #70 
     - I can only imagine who you are talking to. nt  Bluebear   May-29-07 01:58 AM   #77 
     - That "insulation" from straights doesn't exist.  ThomCat   May-31-07 12:22 PM   #132 
  - ...and LASTLY LASTLY  Madspirit   May-28-07 02:29 PM   #34 
  - Is a pub a public place?  downstairsparts   May-28-07 02:32 PM   #37 
  - WHAT REALLY MAKES ME ILL  Madspirit   May-28-07 04:51 PM   #43 
  - Thank you  lwfern   May-28-07 08:33 PM   #59 
  - Kind of reminds me of the whining from men when they aren't allowed into women's fitness gyms.  Evoman   May-28-07 05:31 PM   #45 
  - Thank-you  Madspirit   May-28-07 05:38 PM   #46 
  - Thank you for this post n/t  LostinVA   May-28-07 05:46 PM   #49 
  - And why can't blacks stay out of hockey and golf?  Balbus   May-28-07 06:51 PM   #54 
  - Right bud, because black people enter hockey and gold  Evoman   May-28-07 07:59 PM   #57 
  - pathetic race-baiting at its finest  ComerPerro   May-28-07 08:47 PM   #65 
  - The issue is that you're giving in to the same type of generalization  treestar   May-28-07 08:46 PM   #64 
  - We Don't Want You There  Madspirit   May-28-07 11:38 PM   #71 
     - ...and  Madspirit   May-28-07 11:49 PM   #72 
  - Exactly so. Thank you  nam78_two   May-28-07 11:53 PM   #73 
  - Thank you. nt  Bluebear   May-29-07 01:57 AM   #75 
  - I think this is a really great comparison.  SemiCharmedQuark   May-29-07 12:14 PM   #87 
  - I'm aware of WHY this is being done. We all know that.  dicksteele   May-29-07 12:16 PM   #88 
  - You should grow up  557188   May-30-07 01:06 PM   #101 
  - Wow if only there were this kind of outcry every time gay folks are discriminated against.  BlooInBloo   May-28-07 08:01 PM   #58 
  - THANKS BlooInBloo!  Madspirit   May-28-07 08:36 PM   #60 
  - I'm not hungover any more - can achieve a higher meaning/word ratio. :)  BlooInBloo   May-28-07 08:44 PM   #62 
  - THANK you BiB! nt  Bluebear   May-29-07 01:58 AM   #76 
  - I don't like this thread title. You could have said something like  ComerPerro   May-28-07 08:46 PM   #63 
  - pfunny!  BlooInBloo   May-28-07 11:12 PM   #69 
  - So.. do they make people have sex in front of them to prove their orientation?  SoCalDem   May-29-07 02:01 AM   #78 
  - Banning people not like you is always good I hear  The Straight Story   May-29-07 02:18 AM   #79 
  - Why did I know you would post this?  ThomCat   May-31-07 12:25 PM   #133 
  - Oh, brother. Most of the heterosexuals in this thread are being too sensitive.  Jamastiene   May-29-07 02:31 AM   #81 
  - zing.  BlooInBloo   May-29-07 11:25 AM   #85 
  - Not a good idea, not at all.  Behind the Aegis   May-29-07 02:49 AM   #82 
  - How do you decide if they are gay or not?  avrdream   May-29-07 03:27 AM   #83 
  - Believe me  Madspirit   May-29-07 06:32 PM   #91 
  - According to this article, they don't want lesbians there either  johnnie   May-29-07 02:25 PM   #89 
  - I support my gay brothers in this  Madspirit   May-29-07 06:31 PM   #90 
  - I remember this bar in Manchester, UK..  sjbech   May-29-07 07:55 PM   #92 
  - hee  Madspirit   May-30-07 01:41 PM   #106 
     - Yup! :)  sjbech   May-30-07 06:39 PM   #124 
  - LISTEN UP!!  Madspirit   May-30-07 12:35 PM   #93 
  - Cool your heels. I don't want in. It's all yours.  IndyJones   May-30-07 12:50 PM   #98 
  - A suggestion  Raskolnik   May-30-07 01:00 PM   #99 
  - You Get It  Madspirit   May-30-07 01:37 PM   #104 
  - She had no need to be endearing in making a point.  ThomCat   May-31-07 12:28 PM   #134 
  - I see your point - and it's a very valid one.  AZBlue   May-30-07 03:41 PM   #116 
     - ...well remember  Madspirit   May-30-07 04:10 PM   #117 
        - Oh, thank you, I missed that part.  AZBlue   May-30-07 11:02 PM   #125 
  - I dislike it. I am opposed to exclusion by group on principle, not just  mondo joe   May-30-07 12:46 PM   #96 
  - I Don't Get It  Prism   May-30-07 12:49 PM   #97 
  - READ People  Madspirit   May-30-07 01:06 PM   #100 
     - I think my problem with it is . . .  Prism   May-30-07 01:15 PM   #103 
        - Answer  Madspirit   May-30-07 01:39 PM   #105 
           - How do you define mouth breathers and gawkers?  Prism   May-30-07 01:49 PM   #108 
  - Reading Comprehension is Good  Madspirit   May-30-07 01:13 PM   #102 
  - Discrimination because of sexual origination isn't acceptable.  Rosephase   May-30-07 01:42 PM   #107 
     - Oh cry me a river  Madspirit   May-30-07 02:08 PM   #109 
        - Is the club in question a public one or private?  Beaverhausen   May-30-07 02:26 PM   #111 
           - Hi  Madspirit   May-30-07 02:30 PM   #112 
              - I understand that the club wants to get rid of people who are abusing the patrons  Beaverhausen   May-30-07 02:44 PM   #113 
                 - It doesn't say  Madspirit   May-30-07 04:12 PM   #118 
  - And this pisses me off b/c as a straight woman who has lots of gay male friends,  AZBlue   May-30-07 03:38 PM   #115 
  - I Promise  Madspirit   May-30-07 04:47 PM   #120 
     - ...  AZBlue   May-30-07 11:04 PM   #126 
  - Whoops, I thought I was Madspirit for a second  jpgray   May-30-07 04:13 PM   #119 
  - Pretend Straight Person  Madspirit   May-30-07 04:57 PM   #121 
     - Wow, Pretend Straight Person (PSP), you are awesome!  Bluebear   May-30-07 05:34 PM   #122 
        - I Try to Be Awesome...thank-you...Your PSP...n/t  Madspirit   May-30-07 06:04 PM   #123 
 

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