fujiyama
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Mon May-28-07 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #44 |
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That's creepy!
What's with graduation speeches bringing up politics and religion? Are those topics really necessary in a HIGH SCHOOL graduation ceremony? It also shows a lack of creativity. "Thank you Jesus for dying for my sins". No it doesn't break the law, but it just makes for one REALLY crappy graduation speech...
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| -My son graduated from high school on Thursday... |
TN al |
May-27-07 09:40 AM |
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otherwise his diploma would not have been possible? |
Solly Mack |
May-27-07 09:42 AM |
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I'm curious as to what part of the country you are in. |
enough |
May-27-07 09:44 AM |
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DUer, TN al, says it was |
zidzi |
May-28-07 11:34 AM |
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Oh please |
dsc |
May-27-07 09:45 AM |
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Fuck him and his speech |
Catch22Dem |
May-27-07 09:49 AM |
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They probably would |
dsc |
May-27-07 09:52 AM |
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I never implied the government should be involved in any way |
Catch22Dem |
May-27-07 10:01 AM |
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In fairness you didn't |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:26 AM |
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religious fundies do not have tact |
alarimer |
May-27-07 10:29 AM |
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ah yes, religion needs to be kept in the closet |
hfojvt |
May-28-07 02:56 AM |
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Of course I say that about him, and he SHOULD keep that shit to himself. It's offensive! |
Catch22Dem |
May-28-07 10:11 AM |
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If people must keep their religion to themselves |
hfojvt |
May-28-07 11:07 AM |
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I think you're throwing these at me thinking I'm going to recant because of WHO said it |
Catch22Dem |
May-28-07 06:24 PM |
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Do you know what "proselytize" means? |
onenote |
May-29-07 05:07 PM |
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Yes, we all have rights... |
TN al |
May-27-07 10:03 AM |
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You said it better than I did -- good post! |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:21 AM |
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you think he is Taliban-like |
hfojvt |
May-28-07 03:09 AM |
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So |
Dorian Gray |
May-28-07 03:50 PM |
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why did he have a responsibility not to invoke them |
onenote |
May-29-07 05:08 PM |
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Again, Government should and does edit speeches given at a PUBLIC institution |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:19 AM |
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I don't know what part of the government shouldn't edit is in any way unclear |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:23 AM |
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There you go -- I've read everything on here now |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:34 AM |
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because I know how governments here would likely use that power |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:42 AM |
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no no no. this is different. it's a public school and they edit the kids |
orleans |
May-28-07 02:42 AM |
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They shouldn't have editted the girl's shirt either |
dsc |
May-28-07 10:16 AM |
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are you kidding me? they shouldn't have edited the girl's shirt? |
orleans |
May-28-07 10:57 AM |
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I favor uniforms |
dsc |
May-28-07 11:02 AM |
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well, i'm glad you weren't working in my daughter's school. i would have gone |
orleans |
May-28-07 12:55 PM |
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a couple of things |
dsc |
May-28-07 02:45 PM |
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the shirt ended up only saying "be happy" and nothing else |
orleans |
May-28-07 11:33 PM |
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The article I read made it fairly clear that no option means no ability to censor |
dsc |
May-29-07 05:01 PM |
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Ah, you're a libertarian |
kgfnally |
May-28-07 02:57 PM |
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On speech absolutely |
dsc |
May-28-07 03:34 PM |
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Do You Have Any Idea How Disgusting Your Sentiment Is? How Intolerant? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-28-07 12:40 AM |
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Yeah, everyone has the right to say stupid shit |
MindPilot |
May-27-07 09:51 AM |
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As a teacher I can tell you students blame about anyone and anything |
dsc |
May-27-07 09:53 AM |
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you're a teacher? that surprises me considering the other post i just |
orleans |
May-28-07 02:44 AM |
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my feelings exactly. |
Buzz Clik |
May-27-07 09:58 AM |
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Government should if it's a public institution |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:17 AM |
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what law did he break? |
onenote |
May-29-07 05:10 PM |
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And if I were there and decided to laugh him off the stage... |
Jed Dilligan |
May-28-07 11:05 AM |
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Definitely.... |
Dorian Gray |
May-28-07 03:54 PM |
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I feel your pain, but the speaker was within his rights. |
MindPilot |
May-27-07 09:46 AM |
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Definitely within his rights |
Catch22Dem |
May-27-07 09:50 AM |
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How so? |
SayWhatYo |
May-27-07 10:19 AM |
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Doubtful. |
Clark2008 |
May-27-07 10:35 AM |
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I wonder if the administration approved that speech, or if that was something he threw in at the end |
1932 |
May-27-07 09:49 AM |
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I wondered the same thing as I watched it myself... |
TN al |
May-27-07 10:32 AM |
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It would have to have been approved. |
China_cat |
May-27-07 10:50 AM |
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You were offended? |
SayWhatYo |
May-27-07 10:17 AM |
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I agree. It's one thing to TEACH religion in schools, it's another to mention it. |
live love laugh |
May-27-07 10:19 AM |
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Separation of Church and State extends to graduation ceremonies, moments of silence, etc. |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:22 AM |
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No he didn't |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:25 AM |
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Of course he did |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:32 AM |
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Under your system his religious rights would be |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:34 AM |
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It doesn't matter if you agree or not. |
tabasco |
May-27-07 10:34 AM |
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oooo -- you got me so good |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:37 AM |
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They are NOT breaking the law in this case. |
Clark2008 |
May-27-07 10:42 AM |
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Get a grip. He didn't break any law. |
tabasco |
May-27-07 10:33 AM |
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No it does not. |
Clark2008 |
May-27-07 10:37 AM |
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that isn't true |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:45 AM |
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Yeah - I reference that above (or clarified it). |
Clark2008 |
May-27-07 11:16 AM |
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This Declaration Of Yours Is Wrong Past The Point Of Ludicrousness. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-28-07 12:44 AM |
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What law did he break |
murloc |
May-28-07 04:16 AM |
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A citizen can not break the Establishment Clause |
doggyboy |
May-28-07 12:42 PM |
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Oh, for Pete's sake. |
Clark2008 |
May-27-07 10:29 AM |
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I don't like it either but.... |
goddess40 |
May-27-07 10:29 AM |
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I don't think his silly comment was anything to get |
Vexatious Ape |
May-27-07 10:53 AM |
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The greater the christian majority |
LWolf |
May-27-07 11:08 AM |
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I wish there were more like you. |
Jamastiene |
May-28-07 12:33 AM |
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Good for you.My first prof of comparative religion told us she hoped to teach so well that we... |
Hekate |
May-28-07 02:04 AM |
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Not only "offended" but "personally offended"? |
doggyboy |
May-27-07 11:14 AM |
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Just be thankful |
buddyhollysghost |
May-27-07 12:14 PM |
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Holy shit! |
fujiyama |
May-28-07 03:32 PM |
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I'm Jewish |
nick303 |
May-27-07 12:36 PM |
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Oh For Cryin Out Loud Give Me A Break. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-28-07 12:37 AM |
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It's an insult to the entire education system |
cgrindley |
May-28-07 05:29 AM |
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No, No, It Isn't. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-28-07 12:00 PM |
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You find the word Jesus |
Dorian Gray |
May-28-07 04:01 PM |
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so no educated person can be a person of faith? |
onenote |
May-29-07 05:14 PM |
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I guess I grew a thick skin growing up in Oklahoma.. |
XOKCowboy |
May-28-07 02:32 AM |
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Fundies sicken me |
Erika |
May-28-07 02:37 AM |
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reading all these posts telling you to basically get over it. humph. |
orleans |
May-28-07 02:51 AM |
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you should have yelled "Hail Satan" just for equal time |
Lord Helmet |
May-28-07 03:29 AM |
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How terrible |
murloc |
May-28-07 04:05 AM |
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He earned the right to thank those who are important to him - |
lynne |
May-28-07 10:20 AM |
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He's the valedictorian. He earned his right to say what he wants. |
IMModerate |
May-28-07 11:11 AM |
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Ugh. I feel for you TN al. I would have been pissed off, too. |
Oregonian |
May-28-07 11:52 AM |
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I wonder how long it will be before we find out the valDICKtorian |
DainBramaged |
May-28-07 12:15 PM |
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He sounds like a lunatic. |
Cobalt Violet |
May-28-07 12:23 PM |
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Was that all he said? |
PaDem |
May-28-07 12:38 PM |
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I guess I'd be less offended than just annoyed |
fujiyama |
May-28-07 03:39 PM |
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It's what he believes. |
Dorian Gray |
May-28-07 03:45 PM |
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CONGRATULATIONS to the Graduate!!!!!! |
Breeze54 |
May-29-07 05:18 PM |
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I wonder if this Valedictorian saw 60 Minutes on Sunday? |
lpbk2713 |
May-29-07 05:37 PM |
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