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Mon May-28-07 10:20 AM
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| 64. He earned the right to thank those who are important to him - |
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- and you quoted him as saying "died on the cross for my sins". He didn't say YOUR sins or EVERYONES sins. He wasn't preaching, he was thanking those people who were important to him and him alone.
Maybe we should all be more concerned about retaining the right to thank those who are important to us rather than be concerned that a few people may be offended by mere words that have no power over them.
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| -My son graduated from high school on Thursday... |
TN al |
May-27-07 09:40 AM |
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otherwise his diploma would not have been possible? |
Solly Mack |
May-27-07 09:42 AM |
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I'm curious as to what part of the country you are in. |
enough |
May-27-07 09:44 AM |
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DUer, TN al, says it was |
zidzi |
May-28-07 11:34 AM |
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Oh please |
dsc |
May-27-07 09:45 AM |
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Fuck him and his speech |
Catch22Dem |
May-27-07 09:49 AM |
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They probably would |
dsc |
May-27-07 09:52 AM |
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I never implied the government should be involved in any way |
Catch22Dem |
May-27-07 10:01 AM |
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In fairness you didn't |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:26 AM |
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religious fundies do not have tact |
alarimer |
May-27-07 10:29 AM |
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ah yes, religion needs to be kept in the closet |
hfojvt |
May-28-07 02:56 AM |
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Of course I say that about him, and he SHOULD keep that shit to himself. It's offensive! |
Catch22Dem |
May-28-07 10:11 AM |
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If people must keep their religion to themselves |
hfojvt |
May-28-07 11:07 AM |
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I think you're throwing these at me thinking I'm going to recant because of WHO said it |
Catch22Dem |
May-28-07 06:24 PM |
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Do you know what "proselytize" means? |
onenote |
May-29-07 05:07 PM |
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Yes, we all have rights... |
TN al |
May-27-07 10:03 AM |
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You said it better than I did -- good post! |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:21 AM |
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you think he is Taliban-like |
hfojvt |
May-28-07 03:09 AM |
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So |
Dorian Gray |
May-28-07 03:50 PM |
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why did he have a responsibility not to invoke them |
onenote |
May-29-07 05:08 PM |
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Again, Government should and does edit speeches given at a PUBLIC institution |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:19 AM |
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I don't know what part of the government shouldn't edit is in any way unclear |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:23 AM |
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There you go -- I've read everything on here now |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:34 AM |
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because I know how governments here would likely use that power |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:42 AM |
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no no no. this is different. it's a public school and they edit the kids |
orleans |
May-28-07 02:42 AM |
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They shouldn't have editted the girl's shirt either |
dsc |
May-28-07 10:16 AM |
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are you kidding me? they shouldn't have edited the girl's shirt? |
orleans |
May-28-07 10:57 AM |
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I favor uniforms |
dsc |
May-28-07 11:02 AM |
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well, i'm glad you weren't working in my daughter's school. i would have gone |
orleans |
May-28-07 12:55 PM |
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a couple of things |
dsc |
May-28-07 02:45 PM |
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the shirt ended up only saying "be happy" and nothing else |
orleans |
May-28-07 11:33 PM |
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The article I read made it fairly clear that no option means no ability to censor |
dsc |
May-29-07 05:01 PM |
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Ah, you're a libertarian |
kgfnally |
May-28-07 02:57 PM |
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On speech absolutely |
dsc |
May-28-07 03:34 PM |
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Do You Have Any Idea How Disgusting Your Sentiment Is? How Intolerant? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-28-07 12:40 AM |
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Yeah, everyone has the right to say stupid shit |
MindPilot |
May-27-07 09:51 AM |
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As a teacher I can tell you students blame about anyone and anything |
dsc |
May-27-07 09:53 AM |
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you're a teacher? that surprises me considering the other post i just |
orleans |
May-28-07 02:44 AM |
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my feelings exactly. |
Buzz Clik |
May-27-07 09:58 AM |
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Government should if it's a public institution |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:17 AM |
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what law did he break? |
onenote |
May-29-07 05:10 PM |
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And if I were there and decided to laugh him off the stage... |
Jed Dilligan |
May-28-07 11:05 AM |
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Definitely.... |
Dorian Gray |
May-28-07 03:54 PM |
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I feel your pain, but the speaker was within his rights. |
MindPilot |
May-27-07 09:46 AM |
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Definitely within his rights |
Catch22Dem |
May-27-07 09:50 AM |
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How so? |
SayWhatYo |
May-27-07 10:19 AM |
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Doubtful. |
Clark2008 |
May-27-07 10:35 AM |
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I wonder if the administration approved that speech, or if that was something he threw in at the end |
1932 |
May-27-07 09:49 AM |
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I wondered the same thing as I watched it myself... |
TN al |
May-27-07 10:32 AM |
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It would have to have been approved. |
China_cat |
May-27-07 10:50 AM |
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You were offended? |
SayWhatYo |
May-27-07 10:17 AM |
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I agree. It's one thing to TEACH religion in schools, it's another to mention it. |
live love laugh |
May-27-07 10:19 AM |
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Separation of Church and State extends to graduation ceremonies, moments of silence, etc. |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:22 AM |
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No he didn't |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:25 AM |
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Of course he did |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:32 AM |
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Under your system his religious rights would be |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:34 AM |
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It doesn't matter if you agree or not. |
tabasco |
May-27-07 10:34 AM |
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oooo -- you got me so good |
LostinVA |
May-27-07 10:37 AM |
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They are NOT breaking the law in this case. |
Clark2008 |
May-27-07 10:42 AM |
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Get a grip. He didn't break any law. |
tabasco |
May-27-07 10:33 AM |
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No it does not. |
Clark2008 |
May-27-07 10:37 AM |
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that isn't true |
dsc |
May-27-07 10:45 AM |
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Yeah - I reference that above (or clarified it). |
Clark2008 |
May-27-07 11:16 AM |
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This Declaration Of Yours Is Wrong Past The Point Of Ludicrousness. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-28-07 12:44 AM |
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What law did he break |
murloc |
May-28-07 04:16 AM |
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A citizen can not break the Establishment Clause |
doggyboy |
May-28-07 12:42 PM |
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Oh, for Pete's sake. |
Clark2008 |
May-27-07 10:29 AM |
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I don't like it either but.... |
goddess40 |
May-27-07 10:29 AM |
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I don't think his silly comment was anything to get |
Vexatious Ape |
May-27-07 10:53 AM |
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The greater the christian majority |
LWolf |
May-27-07 11:08 AM |
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I wish there were more like you. |
Jamastiene |
May-28-07 12:33 AM |
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Good for you.My first prof of comparative religion told us she hoped to teach so well that we... |
Hekate |
May-28-07 02:04 AM |
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Not only "offended" but "personally offended"? |
doggyboy |
May-27-07 11:14 AM |
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Just be thankful |
buddyhollysghost |
May-27-07 12:14 PM |
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Holy shit! |
fujiyama |
May-28-07 03:32 PM |
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I'm Jewish |
nick303 |
May-27-07 12:36 PM |
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Oh For Cryin Out Loud Give Me A Break. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-28-07 12:37 AM |
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It's an insult to the entire education system |
cgrindley |
May-28-07 05:29 AM |
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No, No, It Isn't. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
May-28-07 12:00 PM |
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You find the word Jesus |
Dorian Gray |
May-28-07 04:01 PM |
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so no educated person can be a person of faith? |
onenote |
May-29-07 05:14 PM |
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I guess I grew a thick skin growing up in Oklahoma.. |
XOKCowboy |
May-28-07 02:32 AM |
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Fundies sicken me |
Erika |
May-28-07 02:37 AM |
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reading all these posts telling you to basically get over it. humph. |
orleans |
May-28-07 02:51 AM |
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you should have yelled "Hail Satan" just for equal time |
Lord Helmet |
May-28-07 03:29 AM |
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How terrible |
murloc |
May-28-07 04:05 AM |
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He earned the right to thank those who are important to him - |
lynne |
May-28-07 10:20 AM |
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He's the valedictorian. He earned his right to say what he wants. |
IMModerate |
May-28-07 11:11 AM |
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Ugh. I feel for you TN al. I would have been pissed off, too. |
Oregonian |
May-28-07 11:52 AM |
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I wonder how long it will be before we find out the valDICKtorian |
DainBramaged |
May-28-07 12:15 PM |
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He sounds like a lunatic. |
Cobalt Violet |
May-28-07 12:23 PM |
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Was that all he said? |
PaDem |
May-28-07 12:38 PM |
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I guess I'd be less offended than just annoyed |
fujiyama |
May-28-07 03:39 PM |
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It's what he believes. |
Dorian Gray |
May-28-07 03:45 PM |
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CONGRATULATIONS to the Graduate!!!!!! |
Breeze54 |
May-29-07 05:18 PM |
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I wonder if this Valedictorian saw 60 Minutes on Sunday? |
lpbk2713 |
May-29-07 05:37 PM |
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