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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #34
36. They are NOT breaking the law in this case.
Prayer is blocked from graduation ceremonies, but the mere mention of one's faith is NOT.
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  -My son graduated from high school on Thursday... TN al  May-27-07 09:40 AM   #0 
  - otherwise his diploma would not have been possible?  Solly Mack   May-27-07 09:42 AM   #1 
  - I'm curious as to what part of the country you are in.  enough   May-27-07 09:44 AM   #2 
  - DUer, TN al, says it was  zidzi   May-28-07 11:34 AM   #70 
  - Oh please  dsc   May-27-07 09:45 AM   #3 
  - Fuck him and his speech  Catch22Dem   May-27-07 09:49 AM   #5 
  - They probably would  dsc   May-27-07 09:52 AM   #9 
  - I never implied the government should be involved in any way  Catch22Dem   May-27-07 10:01 AM   #12 
  - In fairness you didn't  dsc   May-27-07 10:26 AM   #23 
  - religious fundies do not have tact  alarimer   May-27-07 10:29 AM   #26 
  - ah yes, religion needs to be kept in the closet  hfojvt   May-28-07 02:56 AM   #56 
     - Of course I say that about him, and he SHOULD keep that shit to himself. It's offensive!  Catch22Dem   May-28-07 10:11 AM   #62 
        - If people must keep their religion to themselves  hfojvt   May-28-07 11:07 AM   #68 
        - I think you're throwing these at me thinking I'm going to recant because of WHO said it  Catch22Dem   May-28-07 06:24 PM   #87 
        - Do you know what "proselytize" means?  onenote   May-29-07 05:07 PM   #90 
  - Yes, we all have rights...  TN al   May-27-07 10:03 AM   #13 
  - You said it better than I did -- good post!  LostinVA   May-27-07 10:21 AM   #19 
  - you think he is Taliban-like  hfojvt   May-28-07 03:09 AM   #57 
  - So  Dorian Gray   May-28-07 03:50 PM   #84 
  - why did he have a responsibility not to invoke them  onenote   May-29-07 05:08 PM   #91 
  - Again, Government should and does edit speeches given at a PUBLIC institution  LostinVA   May-27-07 10:19 AM   #17 
  - I don't know what part of the government shouldn't edit is in any way unclear  dsc   May-27-07 10:23 AM   #21 
     - There you go -- I've read everything on here now  LostinVA   May-27-07 10:34 AM   #31 
        - because I know how governments here would likely use that power  dsc   May-27-07 10:42 AM   #37 
           - no no no. this is different. it's a public school and they edit the kids  orleans   May-28-07 02:42 AM   #53 
              - They shouldn't have editted the girl's shirt either  dsc   May-28-07 10:16 AM   #63 
                 - are you kidding me? they shouldn't have edited the girl's shirt?  orleans   May-28-07 10:57 AM   #65 
                    - I favor uniforms  dsc   May-28-07 11:02 AM   #66 
                       - well, i'm glad you weren't working in my daughter's school. i would have gone  orleans   May-28-07 12:55 PM   #77 
                          - a couple of things  dsc   May-28-07 02:45 PM   #78 
                             - the shirt ended up only saying "be happy" and nothing else  orleans   May-28-07 11:33 PM   #88 
                                - The article I read made it fairly clear that no option means no ability to censor  dsc   May-29-07 05:01 PM   #89 
  - Ah, you're a libertarian  kgfnally   May-28-07 02:57 PM   #79 
     - On speech absolutely  dsc   May-28-07 03:34 PM   #81 
  - Do You Have Any Idea How Disgusting Your Sentiment Is? How Intolerant?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-28-07 12:40 AM   #48 
  - Yeah, everyone has the right to say stupid shit  MindPilot   May-27-07 09:51 AM   #8 
  - As a teacher I can tell you students blame about anyone and anything  dsc   May-27-07 09:53 AM   #10 
     - you're a teacher? that surprises me considering the other post i just  orleans   May-28-07 02:44 AM   #54 
  - my feelings exactly.  Buzz Clik   May-27-07 09:58 AM   #11 
  - Government should if it's a public institution  LostinVA   May-27-07 10:17 AM   #14 
  - what law did he break?  onenote   May-29-07 05:10 PM   #92 
  - And if I were there and decided to laugh him off the stage...  Jed Dilligan   May-28-07 11:05 AM   #67 
     - Definitely....  Dorian Gray   May-28-07 03:54 PM   #85 
  - I feel your pain, but the speaker was within his rights.  MindPilot   May-27-07 09:46 AM   #4 
  - Definitely within his rights  Catch22Dem   May-27-07 09:50 AM   #7 
  - How so?  SayWhatYo   May-27-07 10:19 AM   #18 
  - Doubtful.  Clark2008   May-27-07 10:35 AM   #33 
  - I wonder if the administration approved that speech, or if that was something he threw in at the end  1932   May-27-07 09:49 AM   #6 
  - I wondered the same thing as I watched it myself...  TN al   May-27-07 10:32 AM   #27 
  - It would have to have been approved.  China_cat   May-27-07 10:50 AM   #39 
  - You were offended?  SayWhatYo   May-27-07 10:17 AM   #15 
  - I agree. It's one thing to TEACH religion in schools, it's another to mention it.  live love laugh   May-27-07 10:19 AM   #16 
     - Separation of Church and State extends to graduation ceremonies, moments of silence, etc.  LostinVA   May-27-07 10:22 AM   #20 
        - No he didn't  dsc   May-27-07 10:25 AM   #22 
        - Of course he did  LostinVA   May-27-07 10:32 AM   #28 
           - Under your system his religious rights would be  dsc   May-27-07 10:34 AM   #30 
           - It doesn't matter if you agree or not.  tabasco   May-27-07 10:34 AM   #32 
              - oooo -- you got me so good  LostinVA   May-27-07 10:37 AM   #34 
                 - They are NOT breaking the law in this case.  Clark2008   May-27-07 10:42 AM   #36 
        - Get a grip. He didn't break any law.  tabasco   May-27-07 10:33 AM   #29 
        - No it does not.  Clark2008   May-27-07 10:37 AM   #35 
        - that isn't true  dsc   May-27-07 10:45 AM   #38 
           - Yeah - I reference that above (or clarified it).  Clark2008   May-27-07 11:16 AM   #43 
        - This Declaration Of Yours Is Wrong Past The Point Of Ludicrousness.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-28-07 12:44 AM   #49 
        - What law did he break  murloc   May-28-07 04:16 AM   #60 
           - A citizen can not break the Establishment Clause  doggyboy   May-28-07 12:42 PM   #76 
  - Oh, for Pete's sake.  Clark2008   May-27-07 10:29 AM   #24 
  - I don't like it either but....  goddess40   May-27-07 10:29 AM   #25 
  - I don't think his silly comment was anything to get  Vexatious Ape   May-27-07 10:53 AM   #40 
  - The greater the christian majority  LWolf   May-27-07 11:08 AM   #41 
  - I wish there were more like you.  Jamastiene   May-28-07 12:33 AM   #46 
  - Good for you.My first prof of comparative religion told us she hoped to teach so well that we...  Hekate   May-28-07 02:04 AM   #50 
  - Not only "offended" but "personally offended"?  doggyboy   May-27-07 11:14 AM   #42 
  - Just be thankful  buddyhollysghost   May-27-07 12:14 PM   #44 
  - Holy shit!  fujiyama   May-28-07 03:32 PM   #80 
  - I'm Jewish  nick303   May-27-07 12:36 PM   #45 
  - Oh For Cryin Out Loud Give Me A Break.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-28-07 12:37 AM   #47 
  - It's an insult to the entire education system  cgrindley   May-28-07 05:29 AM   #61 
     - No, No, It Isn't.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-28-07 12:00 PM   #72 
     - You find the word Jesus  Dorian Gray   May-28-07 04:01 PM   #86 
     - so no educated person can be a person of faith?  onenote   May-29-07 05:14 PM   #93 
  - I guess I grew a thick skin growing up in Oklahoma..  XOKCowboy   May-28-07 02:32 AM   #51 
  - Fundies sicken me  Erika   May-28-07 02:37 AM   #52 
  - reading all these posts telling you to basically get over it. humph.  orleans   May-28-07 02:51 AM   #55 
  - you should have yelled "Hail Satan" just for equal time  Lord Helmet   May-28-07 03:29 AM   #58 
  - How terrible  murloc   May-28-07 04:05 AM   #59 
  - He earned the right to thank those who are important to him -  lynne   May-28-07 10:20 AM   #64 
  - He's the valedictorian. He earned his right to say what he wants.  IMModerate   May-28-07 11:11 AM   #69 
  - Ugh. I feel for you TN al. I would have been pissed off, too.  Oregonian   May-28-07 11:52 AM   #71 
  - I wonder how long it will be before we find out the valDICKtorian  DainBramaged   May-28-07 12:15 PM   #73 
  - He sounds like a lunatic.  Cobalt Violet   May-28-07 12:23 PM   #74 
  - Was that all he said?  PaDem   May-28-07 12:38 PM   #75 
  - I guess I'd be less offended than just annoyed  fujiyama   May-28-07 03:39 PM   #82 
  - It's what he believes.  Dorian Gray   May-28-07 03:45 PM   #83 
  - CONGRATULATIONS to the Graduate!!!!!!  Breeze54   May-29-07 05:18 PM   #94 
  - I wonder if this Valedictorian saw 60 Minutes on Sunday?  lpbk2713   May-29-07 05:37 PM   #95 
 

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