TorchTheWitch
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Sun Dec-12-10 10:31 PM
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| 11. I was raped while I was asleep |
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And it makes me sick that anyone here would think it couldn't be done. It can. It happens and maybe it happens a lot. It happened to me.
I'm a heavy sleeper. Always have been. And a particularly heavy sleeper when I have gone without sleep for over 24 hours. In my case by the time I woke up it was almost over and was over by the time I realized what had happened. I doubt it took long, but what do I know, I was asleep. I never gave the guy consent, and there was no reason for him to believe that I would nor were there any overtures from him because he was passed out cold on the floor when I fell asleep. I was fully clothed and went to sleep on the sofa - hardly any demonstration of sexual overtures he could have been confused over. But that's not the point, is it? He didn't have consent and never even asked to begin with and took advantage of the fact that I was unconscious.
Don't think it can happen? Think again. When you're unconscious you don't know what is happening to you or by whom and for what purpose. It even may make sense to whatever part of your unconscious mind may be registering it. Sleeping kids get carried to their beds, changed and covered while never waking up nor having any memory of it. So do adults.
Still think it can't be done and that it's amusing? Think about that. Though any civilized and thinking person shouldn't have to.
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| - allegedly he had sex with her the next morning perhaps while she was still asleep... |
kpete |
Dec-12-10 08:21 PM |
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Wanna do something ... join the Anti-Capitalists in DoS attacks |
thunder rising |
Dec-12-10 08:28 PM |
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A little hard to belive don't you think. |
yourout |
Dec-12-10 08:31 PM |
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From personal experience a person always wakes up before ya know... |
glinda |
Dec-12-10 08:55 PM |
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They both bragged about sleeping with him. |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 10:40 PM |
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I know but somehow the US Gov. got involved. Question is when. |
glinda |
Dec-13-10 12:41 AM |
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He was likely on a watch list. When the charges were filed |
EFerrari |
Dec-13-10 12:46 AM |
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Sex you can sleep through -now that's an insult |
stray cat |
Dec-12-10 08:32 PM |
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I had a boyfriend who did that to me several times. |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-12-10 10:38 PM |
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It's also complete bullshit... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-12-10 10:47 PM |
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BULLSHIT |
TorchTheWitch |
Dec-12-10 11:15 PM |
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What happened to you? The same thing as happened to Assange's accuser? |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-13-10 12:03 AM |
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Not true |
malaise |
Dec-13-10 06:46 AM |
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Julian Assange broke a condom? |
Whoa_Nelly |
Dec-12-10 08:32 PM |
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Q: Who supplied the condom? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-12-10 11:15 PM |
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But he's also a very light touch - he could fuck you and you wouldn't even wake up, perhaps, |
kenny blankenship |
Dec-13-10 12:57 AM |
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'while she was still asleep'? bwahahahahaaaa |
spanone |
Dec-12-10 08:32 PM |
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+1 |
eleny |
Dec-12-10 08:37 PM |
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It is probable that she woke up at some point during the act. |
pnwmom |
Dec-12-10 08:42 PM |
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You're having a problem with that, too? |
aquart |
Dec-12-10 10:32 PM |
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It's a lot more common than you think. eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-12-10 10:39 PM |
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yep n/t |
dana_b |
Dec-13-10 12:52 AM |
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Hey, you guys aren't the only ones having problems with that... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-12-10 10:56 PM |
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these women are being used to trump charges on him |
lovuian |
Dec-12-10 08:42 PM |
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They are exposing themselves. |
glitch |
Dec-12-10 08:55 PM |
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One of them has apparently stopped cooperating with the prosecution... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-12-10 11:06 PM |
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I was raped while I was asleep |
TorchTheWitch |
Dec-12-10 10:31 PM |
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What happened to you was terrible. |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 10:38 PM |
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Cause there has been no trial. only smears by everyone supporting or attacking |
Pavulon |
Dec-12-10 10:40 PM |
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that's hardly the point is it? |
TorchTheWitch |
Dec-12-10 11:09 PM |
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That's not right. There are indications it didn't happen. |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:17 PM |
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you don't know much about how rape victims react do you? |
TorchTheWitch |
Dec-12-10 11:26 PM |
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You make a lot of assumptions, don't you? n/t |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:29 PM |
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Um, yr not the only woman to have ever been raped... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-13-10 12:05 AM |
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+1 |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-13-10 02:54 AM |
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+1. it pretty much disgusts me, per your words, per your experience. |
seabeyond |
Dec-12-10 11:25 PM |
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Sleep and being unconscious are two different things... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-12-10 10:50 PM |
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The other thing that makes no sense is the testing bit. |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 10:55 PM |
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they just had the sex. if he is diseased his would be well established. |
seabeyond |
Dec-12-10 10:58 PM |
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Someone raped you and you want to try to contact him |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:01 PM |
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that is NOT how the story reads and you know it. nt |
seabeyond |
Dec-12-10 11:11 PM |
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Good, then we have the rape charge out of the way. |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:14 PM |
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Dec-12-10 11:16 PM |
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How is rationally going through the steps this woman took glorifying anyone? |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:19 PM |
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do you KNOW she didnt wake up during? she knew he had sex with her, unprotected |
seabeyond |
Dec-12-10 10:57 PM |
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Do you want to address what I said in my post? |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-12-10 11:02 PM |
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you agree it is possible with unconscious but sleep is different. |
seabeyond |
Dec-12-10 11:13 PM |
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I couldn't understand anything you said... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-13-10 12:21 AM |
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You have the NERVE to tell ME this? |
TorchTheWitch |
Dec-12-10 11:12 PM |
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but it is much niftier to put our heroes on pedestals and slime anyone that dare |
seabeyond |
Dec-12-10 11:14 PM |
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Maybe you should go read the tweet Anna Ardin tried to erase |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:24 PM |
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the sick thing is you cant get past it and get it.... you are so fuckin busy defending the POS |
seabeyond |
Dec-12-10 11:27 PM |
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I'm not ignoring anything here. There was no problem |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:30 PM |
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Actually, I don't see Assange as a hero... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-13-10 12:33 AM |
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It doesn't take any nerve to point out the fucking obvious... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-13-10 12:31 AM |
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You make a solid argument, and I appreciate your perspective concerning this story. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-12-10 11:31 PM |
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Hard to give consent when you're asleep...nt |
SidDithers |
Dec-12-10 10:50 PM |
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Dec-12-10 10:55 PM |
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+1 n/t |
tammywammy |
Dec-12-10 10:56 PM |
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If she's concerned about disease, she could go get tested... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-12-10 11:00 PM |
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Well, the woman in question was laughing and bragging the next day. |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:02 PM |
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I know. She was bragging away about it on Twitter and tried to later delete it...n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-12-10 11:04 PM |
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I've helped two friends through real rapes and this sh!t |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:07 PM |
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Yep--the use of rape charges to "get at" someone is one of the |
tblue37 |
Dec-13-10 12:03 AM |
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He said, she said. |
LisaL |
Dec-12-10 11:04 PM |
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The evidence is that these two women didn't express any problem |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:05 PM |
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If they were tweeting, I would really like to see what they were tweeting. |
LisaL |
Dec-12-10 11:06 PM |
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It's up on the net. If you search Anna Ardin tweets |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:08 PM |
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Here's a good article about Ardin that quotes the tweets: |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:28 PM |
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The tragic thing about this is that this will make people skeptical of actual rape victims. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-12-10 11:06 PM |
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Exactly. Ardin seems like a real manipulator, too, although not as good |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 11:11 PM |
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Just this last weekend my SO and I decided to experiment |
mentalsolstice |
Dec-12-10 11:17 PM |
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Did they go and say, this man, Julian Assange, raped me? NO. nt |
seabeyond |
Dec-12-10 11:21 PM |
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From what understand they went in together... |
mentalsolstice |
Dec-12-10 11:37 PM |
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He should have had sex with a corpse! |
Jeffersons Ghost |
Dec-12-10 11:19 PM |
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I sleep light but dream heavy |
mentalsolstice |
Dec-13-10 02:43 AM |
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If she was asleep, maybe she was dreaming. |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-12-10 11:34 PM |
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While we're talking about doctors, here's something else... |
Violet_Crumble |
Dec-13-10 12:40 AM |
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Rotfl! |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-13-10 01:53 AM |
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Assange had sex with two women, one of whom appears was a stalker. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-13-10 04:54 AM |
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