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Sun Dec-12-10 06:05 PM
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| 24. I feel sorry for all the members of the Madoff family |
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Because their values were so screwed up that the father (and maybe other family members) felt entitled to steal from other people.
I feel sorry for the son who killed himself because from account he saw his value as a human being more aligned with monetary worth rather than the joy he should have gotten from his wife and children. I feel sorry that he did not see that the years he could have spent watching his children grow up were much more valuable than anything else.
I am sorry that if he was suffering from depression he did not get the help he needed. But I wonder if he was panicking because of knowing that the investigations were not over and if he had something to hide.
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| -Was anybody else troubled by the reaction to Mark Madoff's suicide? |
Mike 03 |
Dec-12-10 04:26 PM |
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As someone who had one parent commit suicide, I feel especially bad |
coalition_unwilling |
Dec-12-10 04:30 PM |
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I'm a survivor as well. |
mentalsolstice |
Dec-12-10 05:11 PM |
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Sentiments like those are increasingly common - not just on |
enlightenment |
Dec-12-10 04:37 PM |
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Indeed they are, and it's the main reason I avoid my fellow citizens at every |
Nay |
Dec-12-10 05:45 PM |
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unfortunately the spin put on suicide is that it is selfish by people |
2Design |
Dec-12-10 04:38 PM |
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I understand what you are saying. Recently I witnessed a verbal attack by several |
glinda |
Dec-12-10 04:42 PM |
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Suicide is not selfish. Unless people have been severely depressed, they shouldn't pass judgement. |
AmandaMae |
Dec-12-10 04:42 PM |
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It is incredibly selfish and self absorbed |
BoneDaddy |
Dec-12-10 04:55 PM |
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We all do incredibly selfish things. |
Big Blue Marble |
Dec-12-10 07:32 PM |
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Sounds as though you are able to think rationally despite your depression though. |
DaveinJapan |
Dec-12-10 10:16 PM |
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Wonderful post, and I agree. |
polly7 |
Dec-13-10 07:27 AM |
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Oh, Polly, I'm so sorry to hear that sad news! |
DaveinJapan |
Dec-13-10 07:44 AM |
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I am so sorry about your Mom. |
polly7 |
Dec-13-10 08:07 AM |
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Suicide is a sad tragedy. I will not gloat. |
emilyg |
Dec-12-10 04:42 PM |
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I wrote an OP asking that we not wish death on Cheney, makes us look bad, it was locked immed. |
WingDinger |
Dec-12-10 04:44 PM |
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My only concern was he did it with a toddler in the house. n/t |
Vickers |
Dec-12-10 04:46 PM |
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Unrec. Fuck that rich bastard. |
JVS |
Dec-12-10 04:46 PM |
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Name removed |
Dec-12-10 04:52 PM |
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He was rich and not gay... |
Ozymanithrax |
Dec-12-10 05:03 PM |
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That is True |
On the Road |
Dec-12-10 05:19 PM |
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I'm not going to gloat over a suicide................. |
socialist_n_TN |
Dec-12-10 05:52 PM |
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If you say he brought it no himself, that is exactly what you are doing. |
Ozymanithrax |
Dec-12-10 06:58 PM |
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You don't choose to be gay............ |
socialist_n_TN |
Dec-12-10 09:51 PM |
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If he were leaking secrets and being investigated, gay or poor DU would be sympathetic |
stray cat |
Dec-12-10 08:54 PM |
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Capitalists ARE the enemy.............. |
socialist_n_TN |
Dec-12-10 09:54 PM |
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Mark Madoff and his brother blew in their father |
catgirl |
Dec-12-10 05:13 PM |
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in fact, we have no idea what was going on. he also owed his father $22 million. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-12-10 05:19 PM |
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Absolutely, a suicide is ALWAYS tragic, for the |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-12-10 05:21 PM |
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i was saddened when i heard of his suicide. |
ellenfl |
Dec-12-10 05:22 PM |
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My impression is he had nothing to do with his father's scams |
DainBramaged |
Dec-12-10 05:24 PM |
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Mark Madoff was a victim of his father's hand. I find that terribly sad. nt |
snappyturtle |
Dec-12-10 05:43 PM |
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A child can be a victim at his father's hand, but once those ":boys" were adults |
SoCalDem |
Dec-12-10 06:34 PM |
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As I understnad the situation Mark is not considered for any crime |
snappyturtle |
Dec-12-10 09:17 PM |
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I think that we grunts will never understand what drives the greed side of the |
The Backlash Cometh |
Dec-12-10 05:50 PM |
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He and his brother turned in their father |
stray cat |
Dec-12-10 08:52 PM |
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After what I have seen in matters like this one, |
The Backlash Cometh |
Dec-13-10 09:31 AM |
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I feel sorry for all the members of the Madoff family |
csziggy |
Dec-12-10 06:05 PM |
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I'm troubled by news of any suicide or attempted suicide |
Generic Brad |
Dec-12-10 07:16 PM |
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I just felt immense pity and sadness for him |
mainer |
Dec-12-10 07:17 PM |
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I heard that even his children are liable for debts incurred |
undeterred |
Dec-12-10 07:31 PM |
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Well this is what Simon Garfunkel |
tinymontgomery |
Dec-12-10 07:53 PM |
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Nonsense... |
JoseGaspar |
Dec-12-10 11:06 PM |
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+1 .nt |
Hawkowl |
Dec-12-10 11:36 PM |
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I'm fortunate that I've never had direct experience with suicide, but I've never understood |
petronius |
Dec-13-10 12:05 AM |
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A little |
Prophet 451 |
Dec-13-10 06:16 AM |
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I am not certain it was suicide. |
eilen |
Dec-13-10 08:03 AM |
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