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Sun Dec-12-10 07:13 AM
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| 29. Well, if they enter the country illegally |
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to begin with, how is that "trying to abide by our laws"?
Don't you think that the first requirement for a good potential citizen (or a well-behaved visitor) should be that they respect the laws of the country they're visiting or living in? And shouldn't that apply even to the laws that they don't understand, think are silly, think shouldn't apply to them, or are inconvenient to obey?
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| -Undocumented Immigrants Prepare to Leave Arizona |
The Northerner |
Dec-11-10 10:11 PM |
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So where did the persistent notion come from |
skepticscott |
Dec-11-10 10:16 PM |
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I like butter but no salt... |
GSLevel9 |
Dec-11-10 10:18 PM |
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Name removed |
Dec-11-10 10:24 PM |
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to be honest... |
GSLevel9 |
Dec-11-10 10:40 PM |
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Because they were violating administrative law, not criminal law. |
EFerrari |
Dec-11-10 10:24 PM |
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If you're just here illegally, it's administrative, but |
CanonRay |
Dec-13-10 07:37 AM |
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+1 |
FrancisTreptoe |
Dec-12-10 11:27 AM |
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Its all about the jobs. |
dkf |
Dec-11-10 10:31 PM |
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Undocumented workers already are paying taxes |
pinboy3niner |
Dec-11-10 10:40 PM |
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I didnt think they would file taxes under a fraudulent ID |
dkf |
Dec-11-10 10:46 PM |
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Yes they file taxes |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-11-10 10:52 PM |
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Well, if they enter the country illegally |
skepticscott |
Dec-12-10 07:13 AM |
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It isn't a criminal offense to cross the border without papers |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-12-10 08:56 AM |
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And if you were caught speeding |
skepticscott |
Dec-12-10 09:08 AM |
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Of course I would |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-12-10 09:21 AM |
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What you're arguing is |
skepticscott |
Dec-12-10 10:27 AM |
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Once again. It's not a criminal offense. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-12-10 11:23 AM |
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Why do you keep harping on the fact |
skepticscott |
Dec-12-10 11:32 AM |
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I credited the trade policies. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-12-10 11:38 AM |
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Actually you're quite wrong. |
Lance_Boyle |
Dec-12-10 11:59 AM |
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Come down and spend a week with me in Mexico |
a la izquierda |
Dec-12-10 09:17 AM |
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Thank you. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-12-10 09:24 AM |
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+1. |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-12-10 09:58 AM |
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Please don't presume what I know and don't know |
skepticscott |
Dec-12-10 10:38 AM |
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Pollyanna? Please. |
a la izquierda |
Dec-12-10 10:48 AM |
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Yes, Pollyanna |
skepticscott |
Dec-12-10 11:41 AM |
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No, we should not have an open border. |
a la izquierda |
Dec-12-10 11:54 AM |
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I know perfectly well why |
skepticscott |
Dec-12-10 12:03 PM |
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If I had the answers... |
a la izquierda |
Dec-13-10 06:27 AM |
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Those aren't hard questions, they're just the wrong questions. |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 12:13 PM |
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By "wrong" questions, you mean what, exactly? |
skepticscott |
Dec-12-10 03:14 PM |
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I think I was pretty clear about the real choices at your disposal. n/t |
EFerrari |
Dec-12-10 03:21 PM |
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Yes, you were |
skepticscott |
Dec-12-10 05:04 PM |
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You know what? The conditions that lead to people |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-12-10 12:13 PM |
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All I hear in all of this is a rant |
skepticscott |
Dec-12-10 03:23 PM |
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You call facts on the real ground a "rant." |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-12-10 05:08 PM |
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Uh, that's what a rant usually is |
skepticscott |
Dec-13-10 06:44 AM |
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yes, we forget about how poor live in Mexico. Thanks for the reminder |
Liberal_in_LA |
Dec-12-10 03:39 PM |
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And that's not to negate how badly the poor have it here. |
a la izquierda |
Dec-13-10 06:31 AM |
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the fact that people can just leave |
TheFarseer |
Dec-13-10 08:55 AM |
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Sign up to go foment revolution, then. |
a la izquierda |
Dec-13-10 12:48 PM |
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If they're on the books, their taxes are withheld. |
aquart |
Dec-11-10 10:53 PM |
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It is one thing to have an automatic withholding and another to file taxes. |
dkf |
Dec-11-10 11:00 PM |
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So they don't file and the fed keeps their money . All of it. |
aquart |
Dec-11-10 11:02 PM |
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The Government could easily cross reference things and they choose not to. |
dkf |
Dec-11-10 11:09 PM |
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Because they are making money off of them |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-12-10 08:58 AM |
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actually, the government is implementing a program to do that - e-verify |
MH1 |
Dec-12-10 09:27 AM |
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Bless those angels, surely you wouldn't |
Riftaxe |
Dec-12-10 02:09 AM |
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I think with the e-verify program that 'blessing' will stop. |
MH1 |
Dec-12-10 09:26 AM |
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You don't need a fake I.D. to pay the IRS |
pinboy3niner |
Dec-11-10 10:56 PM |
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Hmm. So these employers totally know then. |
dkf |
Dec-11-10 11:06 PM |
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Of course they know |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-12-10 12:07 AM |
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Do you file W-2 forms for your employees? |
Riftaxe |
Dec-12-10 02:34 AM |
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And how do they do that? |
Confusious |
Dec-12-10 05:10 PM |
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All 4 of my grandparents sneaked into this country... |
Bigmack |
Dec-11-10 10:35 PM |
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Same here |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-11-10 10:56 PM |
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Mine both came in thru Canada... |
Bigmack |
Dec-11-10 11:03 PM |
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My grandfather illegally through Canada. |
aquart |
Dec-11-10 11:05 PM |
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AZ is in for a big surprsie |
KT2000 |
Dec-11-10 10:41 PM |
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The high costs of hiring Americans you mean? |
dkf |
Dec-11-10 10:47 PM |
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Yep |
KT2000 |
Dec-11-10 11:26 PM |
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May as well just say Hispanics are preparing to leave Arizona period. |
LAGC |
Dec-11-10 10:47 PM |
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Whiter and poorer. |
aquart |
Dec-11-10 10:57 PM |
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I had planned to take my wife to Sedona, AZ to see the artists |
coalition_unwilling |
Dec-12-10 11:22 AM |
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A friend of mine who is Hispanic and 100% American was pulled over in Arizona this summer |
proud2BlibKansan |
Dec-11-10 10:59 PM |
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nope, no profiling going on there |
WolverineDG |
Dec-12-10 12:02 PM |
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What kind of fit did the judge have? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-12-10 12:08 PM |
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the first kind |
WolverineDG |
Dec-12-10 05:26 PM |
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It will be interesting to see just what sort of impact ... |
surrealAmerican |
Dec-12-10 11:02 AM |
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no one to mow their yards or clean their houses |
WolverineDG |
Dec-12-10 12:05 PM |
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The business owners will be devastated.... |
MellowDem |
Dec-12-10 05:15 PM |
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The American Dream is over for me too |
LiberalEsto |
Dec-13-10 06:50 AM |
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I'll go out on a limb here and say that if there is a sizeable Latino |
xchrom |
Dec-13-10 08:29 AM |
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illegal alien panhandlers... |
OneTenthofOnePercent |
Dec-13-10 09:15 AM |
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