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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 05:16 PM
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44. So why not leave SS alone, and
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 05:17 PM by Cherchez la Femme
just issue a nice little Bush-style bribery check for a pittance rather than declaring a "Tax Holiday"
--for all events and purposes the same as actuality taking money out (yeah yeah, 'payback' -- I'll believe it when I see it, and there still are those qualifications others here have mentioned!)

Oh yes, I do believe there are ulterior motives going on here under the surface.
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  -"Payroll Tax Holiday" - - - the political equivalent of a "Pay Day Loan" scam for American workers: Faryn Balyncd  Dec-11-10 12:28 PM   #0 
  - K & R  AzDar   Dec-11-10 12:30 PM   #1 
  - K&R  Waiting For Everyman   Dec-11-10 12:30 PM   #2 
  - Recommend.  Poboy   Dec-11-10 12:32 PM   #3 
  - This is important information...I hope that ...  prairierose   Dec-11-10 12:32 PM   #4 
  - HOLIDAY........... sounds so wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  sasquuatch55   Dec-12-10 07:43 AM   #94 
  - K&R. n/t  myrna minx   Dec-11-10 12:33 PM   #5 
  - K&R  leftstreet   Dec-11-10 12:36 PM   #6 
  - If you've been paying attention for the last few decades then you'd know this is a trap.  TheKentuckian   Dec-11-10 12:36 PM   #7 
  - this country...  awoke_in_2003   Dec-11-10 08:41 PM   #59 
  - this is the biggest and most dire part of the Repo/Obama backroom tax deal.  John Q. Citizen   Dec-11-10 12:43 PM   #8 
  - And the consequences of which the corporate media remains most silent.  Faryn Balyncd   Dec-11-10 12:48 PM   #9 
     - Barely a peep. 20 mentions on NPR of the obscene, but only one mention of the insane.  John Q. Citizen   Dec-11-10 01:05 PM   #10 
  - And this president is an accomplice in this Social Security heist.  seafan   Dec-11-10 01:06 PM   #11 
  - True! Kicked  WhaTHellsgoingonhere   Dec-11-10 01:14 PM   #13 
  - +1000  corpseratemedia   Dec-11-10 02:01 PM   #18 
  - He absolutely is. nt  Enthusiast   Dec-12-10 04:54 AM   #85 
  - Simpson, Bowles and the Catfood Commission. Absolutely.  Faygo Kid   Dec-12-10 08:41 AM   #97 
  - The Payroll Tax "holiday" is the most insidious component...  bvar22   Dec-11-10 01:12 PM   #12 
  - Plus fucking one! nt  Enthusiast   Dec-12-10 04:55 AM   #86 
  - payday loan -- good analogy  Hannah Bell   Dec-11-10 01:15 PM   #14 
  - that last pic speaks volumes, they are laughing at us  sasha031   Dec-11-10 01:17 PM   #15 
  - "they are laughing at us"...  awoke_in_2003   Dec-11-10 08:43 PM   #60 
  - according to the news  fmlymninral   Dec-11-10 01:22 PM   #16 
  - I think the reason the right wing has favored this is they will OBSTRUCT future re-instatement....  Faryn Balyncd   Dec-11-10 01:36 PM   #17 
  - As Dubya's team gloated when they got  Cherchez la Femme   Dec-11-10 04:52 PM   #42 
  - And, of course, when they do so it will be because "the Democrats  RaleighNCDUer   Dec-12-10 01:40 AM   #79 
  - Not only that but they will do some "funny accounting"  ProudDad   Dec-12-10 08:49 PM   #109 
  - This would be the first time EVER...  ljm2002   Dec-11-10 02:50 PM   #29 
  - I have my doubts that the supposed money IS in the Soc. Sec. fund.  dixiegrrrrl   Dec-11-10 03:36 PM   #34 
  - ""moved" from the Soc. Sec. category to the general fund category"  awoke_in_2003   Dec-11-10 08:46 PM   #61 
  - This is another right wing talking point...  ljm2002   Dec-12-10 03:18 AM   #80 
  - FDR set it up to be self-funding for the explicit purpose of preventing  Foo Fighter   Dec-11-10 10:39 PM   #72 
  - but..as the article said:  dixiegrrrrl   Dec-11-10 03:31 PM   #33 
  - Good points in your #32 and #33.  avaistheone1   Dec-11-10 04:37 PM   #38 
  - So why not leave SS alone, and  Cherchez la Femme   Dec-11-10 05:16 PM   #44 
  - Exactly. They could do another "Making Work Pay" tax credit or give  Foo Fighter   Dec-11-10 11:11 PM   #73 
  - Obama already admitted that he's for "reforming entitlements"  ProudDad   Dec-12-10 08:52 PM   #110 
  - So, then we'll borrow for Social Security from China  customerserviceguy   Dec-11-10 07:01 PM   #53 
  - Kick -- already rec'd and bookmarked this earlier.  scarletwoman   Dec-11-10 02:08 PM   #19 
  - K&R. Thanks for the info -- needs to be included in e-mails to congresspeople.  pacalo   Dec-11-10 02:20 PM   #20 
  - It is truly beyond words!  sabrina 1   Dec-11-10 02:22 PM   #21 
  - HUGE KNR!!  indimuse   Dec-11-10 02:24 PM   #22 
  - K&R...  walldude   Dec-11-10 02:27 PM   #23 
  - I know this is happening, the question is what will we do about it  sasha031   Dec-11-10 02:29 PM   #24 
  - Please keep kicked  senseandsensibility   Dec-11-10 02:31 PM   #25 
  - k&r! Any re-instatement will be framed as a 'Tax Increase' by the  jannyk   Dec-11-10 02:36 PM   #26 
  - Connects all the dots.  The Backlash Cometh   Dec-11-10 02:37 PM   #27 
  - K&R and bookmarked! n/t  Poll_Blind   Dec-11-10 02:44 PM   #28 
  - The only question now  Jakes Progress   Dec-11-10 03:08 PM   #30 
  - most excellent post Faryn! I can't believe a....  Little Star   Dec-11-10 03:10 PM   #31 
  - first they drain the treasury....next the entitlements...and Obama helps  Gin   Dec-11-10 03:21 PM   #32 
  - But the goods news is they do not have the votes to pass it, yes???  dixiegrrrrl   Dec-11-10 03:44 PM   #35 
  - K&R  Kermitt Gribble   Dec-11-10 04:17 PM   #36 
  - Excellent post. The "payroll tax holiday" will weaken SS.  Laelth   Dec-11-10 04:26 PM   #37 
  - This is probably the worst part of the stinky bill.  Vinca   Dec-11-10 04:42 PM   #39 
  - k&r  Starry Messenger   Dec-11-10 04:43 PM   #40 
  - I think I saw brick at the back of the theatre  Cherchez la Femme   Dec-11-10 04:45 PM   #41 
  - Yeah, the word 'holiday' implies  Enthusiast   Dec-12-10 05:01 AM   #88 
  - EXCELLENT info here  Raine   Dec-11-10 05:11 PM   #43 
  - Thanks for the info!  True_Blue   Dec-11-10 05:30 PM   #45 
  - Superb post! ... Thank you  Bozita   Dec-11-10 05:34 PM   #46 
  - The holiday for the payroll tax is a direct transfer of a portion of the  JDPriestly   Dec-11-10 05:36 PM   #47 
  - Well, sad to say  skepticscott   Dec-12-10 10:18 AM   #101 
     - Obama may secretly favor the privatization of all pensions  JDPriestly   Dec-12-10 10:26 AM   #102 
  - K&R and hurts the working poor  amborin   Dec-11-10 05:37 PM   #48 
  - K & R n/t  glinda   Dec-11-10 05:54 PM   #49 
  - We need to get this message  lordsummerisle   Dec-11-10 06:30 PM   #50 
  - K&R nt  TBF   Dec-11-10 06:46 PM   #51 
  - Thanks for posting this loud and clear!  customerserviceguy   Dec-11-10 06:59 PM   #52 
  - Keep up the pressure on your Reps.  laughingliberal   Dec-11-10 07:06 PM   #54 
  - K & R  Dinger   Dec-11-10 08:22 PM   #55 
  - Not according to Nouriel Roubini  ProSense   Dec-11-10 08:23 PM   #56 
  - From the article:  hay rick   Dec-12-10 12:50 AM   #76 
  - It's being fully funded by the general fund.  ProSense   Dec-12-10 08:40 AM   #96 
     - Are you forgetting the part where this goes from being  Hydra   Dec-12-10 02:02 PM   #103 
     - I'll bet you $100 it will be written in such a way  ProudDad   Dec-12-10 09:08 PM   #113 
  - I'll save you the trouble, folks...  ProudDad   Dec-12-10 09:01 PM   #111 
  - link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link...  ProudDad   Dec-12-10 09:04 PM   #112 
  - I am just glad...  awoke_in_2003   Dec-11-10 08:39 PM   #57 
  - K&R ! //nt  Overseas   Dec-11-10 08:40 PM   #58 
  - K and R  Kalun D   Dec-11-10 08:52 PM   #62 
  - I did not think of it that way, but you make good points  russspeakeasy   Dec-11-10 08:59 PM   #63 
  - "Complicit" .... ?  defendandprotect   Dec-11-10 09:40 PM   #64 
  - It is perfectly clear to me. nt  Enthusiast   Dec-12-10 05:04 AM   #89 
  - the entire bill is a scam, just like "healthcare reform" was  Skittles   Dec-11-10 09:40 PM   #65 
  - K&R  pam4water   Dec-11-10 09:45 PM   #66 
  - A bump in the night  TheKentuckian   Dec-11-10 09:48 PM   #67 
  - kick  Warren Stupidity   Dec-11-10 09:48 PM   #68 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-11-10 09:50 PM   #69 
  - The Payday Loan scam is an excellent analogy.  Foo Fighter   Dec-11-10 10:25 PM   #70 
  - Wall Street raiders  KT2000   Dec-11-10 10:35 PM   #71 
  - This is important. Recommended  somone   Dec-12-10 12:33 AM   #74 
  - another great post. KR  inna   Dec-12-10 12:38 AM   #75 
  - K&R  hay rick   Dec-12-10 12:55 AM   #77 
  - I think we should drop the rate and make it permanent.  pnwmom   Dec-12-10 01:38 AM   #78 
  - Who exactly do you think will do that? The Democrats are coming  sirthomas66   Dec-12-10 04:58 AM   #87 
  - The Democrats can propose this and the campaign can be about it.  pnwmom   Dec-12-10 02:22 PM   #104 
     - Those days are gone............  sirthomas66   Dec-12-10 08:06 PM   #107 
  - I Agree...  ProudDad   Dec-12-10 09:09 PM   #114 
  - Cat food...it's what's for dinner.  earth mom   Dec-12-10 03:26 AM   #81 
  - And breakfast and lunch, too  Art_from_Ark   Dec-12-10 04:18 AM   #83 
     - And when it's gone, we'll be forced to eat the cats!  lonestarnot   Dec-12-10 08:20 PM   #108 
  - K&R  me b zola   Dec-12-10 03:29 AM   #82 
  - K&R  Enthusiast   Dec-12-10 04:53 AM   #84 
  - I don't care..  sendero   Dec-12-10 05:54 AM   #90 
  - kr  Norrin Radd   Dec-12-10 05:57 AM   #91 
  - That second picture should be enough  Jakes Progress   Dec-12-10 07:22 AM   #92 
  - K & R  democracy1st   Dec-12-10 07:31 AM   #93 
  - Complete agreement. The destruction of Social Security is certain.  Faygo Kid   Dec-12-10 08:40 AM   #95 
  - ooooo...... A SHINY....... oh look..... a squirrel....... AMERICA SHORT ATTENTION SPAN THEATER  happygoluckytoyou   Dec-12-10 09:38 AM   #98 
  - Facts.....  AnneD   Dec-12-10 09:46 AM   #99 
  - Very important information !!! Calls for serious national action.  Maineman   Dec-12-10 09:50 AM   #100 
  - .  Poboy   Dec-12-10 05:08 PM   #105 
  - Heck of a Job Obamie  panzerfaust   Dec-12-10 06:59 PM   #106 
  - the last increase was done under Reagan so that Boomers could pay for  704wipes   Dec-12-10 10:17 PM   #115 
  - great post  florida08   Dec-13-10 08:41 AM   #116 
  - .  Poboy   Dec-13-10 09:18 AM   #117 
 

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