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| -"Payroll Tax Holiday" - - - the political equivalent of a "Pay Day Loan" scam for American workers: |
Faryn Balyncd |
Dec-11-10 12:28 PM |
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K & R |
AzDar |
Dec-11-10 12:30 PM |
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K&R |
Waiting For Everyman |
Dec-11-10 12:30 PM |
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Recommend. |
Poboy |
Dec-11-10 12:32 PM |
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This is important information...I hope that ... |
prairierose |
Dec-11-10 12:32 PM |
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HOLIDAY........... sounds so wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
sasquuatch55 |
Dec-12-10 07:43 AM |
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K&R. n/t |
myrna minx |
Dec-11-10 12:33 PM |
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K&R |
leftstreet |
Dec-11-10 12:36 PM |
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If you've been paying attention for the last few decades then you'd know this is a trap. |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-11-10 12:36 PM |
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this country... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-11-10 08:41 PM |
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this is the biggest and most dire part of the Repo/Obama backroom tax deal. |
John Q. Citizen |
Dec-11-10 12:43 PM |
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And the consequences of which the corporate media remains most silent. |
Faryn Balyncd |
Dec-11-10 12:48 PM |
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Barely a peep. 20 mentions on NPR of the obscene, but only one mention of the insane. |
John Q. Citizen |
Dec-11-10 01:05 PM |
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And this president is an accomplice in this Social Security heist. |
seafan |
Dec-11-10 01:06 PM |
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True! Kicked |
WhaTHellsgoingonhere |
Dec-11-10 01:14 PM |
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+1000 |
corpseratemedia |
Dec-11-10 02:01 PM |
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He absolutely is. nt |
Enthusiast |
Dec-12-10 04:54 AM |
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Simpson, Bowles and the Catfood Commission. Absolutely. |
Faygo Kid |
Dec-12-10 08:41 AM |
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The Payroll Tax "holiday" is the most insidious component... |
bvar22 |
Dec-11-10 01:12 PM |
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Plus fucking one! nt |
Enthusiast |
Dec-12-10 04:55 AM |
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payday loan -- good analogy |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-11-10 01:15 PM |
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that last pic speaks volumes, they are laughing at us |
sasha031 |
Dec-11-10 01:17 PM |
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"they are laughing at us"... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-11-10 08:43 PM |
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according to the news |
fmlymninral |
Dec-11-10 01:22 PM |
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I think the reason the right wing has favored this is they will OBSTRUCT future re-instatement.... |
Faryn Balyncd |
Dec-11-10 01:36 PM |
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As Dubya's team gloated when they got |
Cherchez la Femme |
Dec-11-10 04:52 PM |
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And, of course, when they do so it will be because "the Democrats |
RaleighNCDUer |
Dec-12-10 01:40 AM |
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Not only that but they will do some "funny accounting" |
ProudDad |
Dec-12-10 08:49 PM |
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This would be the first time EVER... |
ljm2002 |
Dec-11-10 02:50 PM |
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I have my doubts that the supposed money IS in the Soc. Sec. fund. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-11-10 03:36 PM |
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""moved" from the Soc. Sec. category to the general fund category" |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-11-10 08:46 PM |
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This is another right wing talking point... |
ljm2002 |
Dec-12-10 03:18 AM |
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FDR set it up to be self-funding for the explicit purpose of preventing |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-11-10 10:39 PM |
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but..as the article said: |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-11-10 03:31 PM |
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Good points in your #32 and #33. |
avaistheone1 |
Dec-11-10 04:37 PM |
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So why not leave SS alone, and |
Cherchez la Femme |
Dec-11-10 05:16 PM |
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Exactly. They could do another "Making Work Pay" tax credit or give |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-11-10 11:11 PM |
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Obama already admitted that he's for "reforming entitlements" |
ProudDad |
Dec-12-10 08:52 PM |
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So, then we'll borrow for Social Security from China |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-11-10 07:01 PM |
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Kick -- already rec'd and bookmarked this earlier. |
scarletwoman |
Dec-11-10 02:08 PM |
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K&R. Thanks for the info -- needs to be included in e-mails to congresspeople. |
pacalo |
Dec-11-10 02:20 PM |
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It is truly beyond words! |
sabrina 1 |
Dec-11-10 02:22 PM |
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HUGE KNR!! |
indimuse |
Dec-11-10 02:24 PM |
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K&R... |
walldude |
Dec-11-10 02:27 PM |
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I know this is happening, the question is what will we do about it |
sasha031 |
Dec-11-10 02:29 PM |
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Please keep kicked |
senseandsensibility |
Dec-11-10 02:31 PM |
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k&r! Any re-instatement will be framed as a 'Tax Increase' by the |
jannyk |
Dec-11-10 02:36 PM |
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Connects all the dots. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Dec-11-10 02:37 PM |
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K&R and bookmarked! n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Dec-11-10 02:44 PM |
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The only question now |
Jakes Progress |
Dec-11-10 03:08 PM |
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most excellent post Faryn! I can't believe a.... |
Little Star |
Dec-11-10 03:10 PM |
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first they drain the treasury....next the entitlements...and Obama helps |
Gin |
Dec-11-10 03:21 PM |
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But the goods news is they do not have the votes to pass it, yes??? |
dixiegrrrrl |
Dec-11-10 03:44 PM |
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K&R |
Kermitt Gribble |
Dec-11-10 04:17 PM |
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Excellent post. The "payroll tax holiday" will weaken SS. |
Laelth |
Dec-11-10 04:26 PM |
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This is probably the worst part of the stinky bill. |
Vinca |
Dec-11-10 04:42 PM |
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k&r |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-11-10 04:43 PM |
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I think I saw brick at the back of the theatre |
Cherchez la Femme |
Dec-11-10 04:45 PM |
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Yeah, the word 'holiday' implies |
Enthusiast |
Dec-12-10 05:01 AM |
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EXCELLENT info here |
Raine |
Dec-11-10 05:11 PM |
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Thanks for the info! |
True_Blue |
Dec-11-10 05:30 PM |
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Superb post! ... Thank you |
Bozita |
Dec-11-10 05:34 PM |
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The holiday for the payroll tax is a direct transfer of a portion of the |
JDPriestly |
Dec-11-10 05:36 PM |
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Well, sad to say |
skepticscott |
Dec-12-10 10:18 AM |
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Obama may secretly favor the privatization of all pensions |
JDPriestly |
Dec-12-10 10:26 AM |
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K&R and hurts the working poor |
amborin |
Dec-11-10 05:37 PM |
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K & R n/t |
glinda |
Dec-11-10 05:54 PM |
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We need to get this message |
lordsummerisle |
Dec-11-10 06:30 PM |
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K&R nt |
TBF |
Dec-11-10 06:46 PM |
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Thanks for posting this loud and clear! |
customerserviceguy |
Dec-11-10 06:59 PM |
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Keep up the pressure on your Reps. |
laughingliberal |
Dec-11-10 07:06 PM |
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K & R |
Dinger |
Dec-11-10 08:22 PM |
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Not according to Nouriel Roubini |
ProSense |
Dec-11-10 08:23 PM |
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From the article: |
hay rick |
Dec-12-10 12:50 AM |
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It's being fully funded by the general fund. |
ProSense |
Dec-12-10 08:40 AM |
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Are you forgetting the part where this goes from being |
Hydra |
Dec-12-10 02:02 PM |
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I'll bet you $100 it will be written in such a way |
ProudDad |
Dec-12-10 09:08 PM |
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I'll save you the trouble, folks... |
ProudDad |
Dec-12-10 09:01 PM |
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link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link, link... |
ProudDad |
Dec-12-10 09:04 PM |
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I am just glad... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-11-10 08:39 PM |
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K&R ! //nt |
Overseas |
Dec-11-10 08:40 PM |
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K and R |
Kalun D |
Dec-11-10 08:52 PM |
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I did not think of it that way, but you make good points |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-11-10 08:59 PM |
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"Complicit" .... ? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-11-10 09:40 PM |
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It is perfectly clear to me. nt |
Enthusiast |
Dec-12-10 05:04 AM |
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the entire bill is a scam, just like "healthcare reform" was |
Skittles |
Dec-11-10 09:40 PM |
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K&R |
pam4water |
Dec-11-10 09:45 PM |
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A bump in the night |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-11-10 09:48 PM |
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kick |
Warren Stupidity |
Dec-11-10 09:48 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-11-10 09:50 PM |
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The Payday Loan scam is an excellent analogy. |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-11-10 10:25 PM |
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Wall Street raiders |
KT2000 |
Dec-11-10 10:35 PM |
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This is important. Recommended |
somone |
Dec-12-10 12:33 AM |
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another great post. KR |
inna |
Dec-12-10 12:38 AM |
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K&R |
hay rick |
Dec-12-10 12:55 AM |
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I think we should drop the rate and make it permanent. |
pnwmom |
Dec-12-10 01:38 AM |
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Who exactly do you think will do that? The Democrats are coming |
sirthomas66 |
Dec-12-10 04:58 AM |
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The Democrats can propose this and the campaign can be about it. |
pnwmom |
Dec-12-10 02:22 PM |
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Those days are gone............ |
sirthomas66 |
Dec-12-10 08:06 PM |
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I Agree... |
ProudDad |
Dec-12-10 09:09 PM |
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Cat food...it's what's for dinner. |
earth mom |
Dec-12-10 03:26 AM |
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And breakfast and lunch, too |
Art_from_Ark |
Dec-12-10 04:18 AM |
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And when it's gone, we'll be forced to eat the cats! |
lonestarnot |
Dec-12-10 08:20 PM |
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K&R |
me b zola |
Dec-12-10 03:29 AM |
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K&R |
Enthusiast |
Dec-12-10 04:53 AM |
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I don't care.. |
sendero |
Dec-12-10 05:54 AM |
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kr |
Norrin Radd |
Dec-12-10 05:57 AM |
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That second picture should be enough |
Jakes Progress |
Dec-12-10 07:22 AM |
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K & R |
democracy1st |
Dec-12-10 07:31 AM |
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Complete agreement. The destruction of Social Security is certain. |
Faygo Kid |
Dec-12-10 08:40 AM |
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ooooo...... A SHINY....... oh look..... a squirrel....... AMERICA SHORT ATTENTION SPAN THEATER |
happygoluckytoyou |
Dec-12-10 09:38 AM |
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Facts..... |
AnneD |
Dec-12-10 09:46 AM |
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Very important information !!! Calls for serious national action. |
Maineman |
Dec-12-10 09:50 AM |
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. |
Poboy |
Dec-12-10 05:08 PM |
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Heck of a Job Obamie |
panzerfaust |
Dec-12-10 06:59 PM |
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the last increase was done under Reagan so that Boomers could pay for |
704wipes |
Dec-12-10 10:17 PM |
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great post |
florida08 |
Dec-13-10 08:41 AM |
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. |
Poboy |
Dec-13-10 09:18 AM |
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