JoePhilly
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Sat Dec-11-10 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #58 |
| 59. You still don't seem to get it. |
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Your post argued that the country was NOT founded on compromise, but by force.
I demonstrated very clearly that you are wrong.
You made your argument to dispute Obama's claim regarding the role of compromise in our nation's founding. For your argument to make sense, you would have to be arguing that the country was founded on force, and as such, I guess you think Obama should be using force, not compromise.
What I find most interesting is that folks like you on DU, are angry because you don't like the compromise. So you felt the need to disagree with his very accurate statement about the founding of this nation.
So you see, it is not I who was looking to back up Obama ... it is you, and others like you, who have taken your anger about the elements of the compromise to further argue, in correctly, that our nation was NOT founded on compromise.
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| -The United States was founded on compromise? |
robinlynne |
Dec-09-10 08:11 PM |
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A bit of revisionist history. nt |
TBF |
Dec-09-10 08:12 PM |
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How is it revisionist. |
JamesA1102 |
Dec-09-10 08:34 PM |
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Yeah right ! Obama talks like a freaking loser... |
libertypirate |
Dec-09-10 08:46 PM |
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And there certainly wasn't much "compromising" done regarding the Native Americans - |
TBF |
Dec-09-10 08:48 PM |
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But they did compromise on slavery. |
JamesA1102 |
Dec-09-10 09:30 PM |
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You mean when they decided a slave was 3/5 a person? That "compromise"? nt |
TBF |
Dec-10-10 06:48 AM |
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You can include that |
JamesA1102 |
Dec-10-10 08:15 AM |
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are you serious? what compromise? |
ChairmanAgnostic |
Dec-10-10 03:13 PM |
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Well then I guess you think Adams, Franklin and Jefferson caved |
JamesA1102 |
Dec-11-10 03:16 PM |
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Please read a little history |
former9thward |
Dec-11-10 07:27 PM |
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So your saying that the founding fathers didn't compromise |
JamesA1102 |
Dec-09-10 09:29 PM |
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The colonies came up with the declaration of independence and the constitution, |
stray cat |
Dec-09-10 08:15 PM |
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The "foundation" of the country - we are talking about the European land grab, correct? nt |
TBF |
Dec-09-10 08:49 PM |
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The founding document for this Country is the US Constitution. |
JoePhilly |
Dec-10-10 07:06 AM |
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+10000 |
bushisanidiot |
Dec-10-10 08:53 AM |
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+. The Constitution is a document dripping with compromise. nt. |
Hosnon |
Dec-10-10 08:59 AM |
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You completely ignored my point. We stole land to create a country. |
TBF |
Dec-10-10 09:26 AM |
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Then I guess your point is irrelevant. |
JoePhilly |
Dec-10-10 03:10 PM |
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So we are then talking about only acceptable points in history that back up Mr. Obama's point ? |
TBF |
Dec-10-10 06:07 PM |
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You still don't seem to get it. |
JoePhilly |
Dec-11-10 09:04 AM |
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There is no way to defend Mr. Obama's "compromise" unless you are in favor of regressive republican |
TBF |
Dec-11-10 09:42 AM |
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You are all over the map. |
JoePhilly |
Dec-11-10 03:13 PM |
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Try a reading comprehension class, maybe it will help. nt |
TBF |
Dec-11-10 06:50 PM |
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What a powerful non-response. nt |
JoePhilly |
Dec-11-10 08:03 PM |
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they compromised on slaves, and that they counted as 3/5 of a human |
Motown_Johnny |
Dec-09-10 08:17 PM |
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Yes. Yes Indeed! And 100 years later the rivers flowed with blood |
CBGLuthier |
Dec-10-10 06:58 AM |
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Doesn't armed revolution preclude compromise? |
donco6 |
Dec-09-10 08:18 PM |
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And What About After The Revolution |
KharmaTrain |
Dec-09-10 08:21 PM |
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It didn't start as an armed revolution. |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-09-10 08:23 PM |
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And they compromised by . . . ? |
donco6 |
Dec-09-10 08:32 PM |
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There was a decade of broad agitation for reform before the first shots were fired. |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-09-10 08:43 PM |
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I don't see any of that as "compromise" at all. |
donco6 |
Dec-09-10 09:05 PM |
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No it was more like a hostile takeover - |
TBF |
Dec-09-10 08:51 PM |
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Thank-you. |
robinlynne |
Dec-09-10 08:25 PM |
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It Was Indeed... |
iamjoy |
Dec-09-10 08:20 PM |
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Well, we did give the Native Americans the reservations |
rucky |
Dec-09-10 08:20 PM |
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I cringed when I |
Autumn |
Dec-09-10 08:20 PM |
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I guess you don't know your history. |
Bluerthanblue |
Dec-09-10 08:43 PM |
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Hi. how are you. |
Autumn |
Dec-09-10 08:55 PM |
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public school education |
Bluerthanblue |
Dec-09-10 09:39 PM |
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You're confused about what the "founding" of the United States is. |
Igel |
Dec-09-10 10:01 PM |
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wow! well done- |
Bluerthanblue |
Dec-10-10 08:47 AM |
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well he talked about not being able to walk through front door |
704wipes |
Dec-09-10 10:56 PM |
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It was. The Articles of Confederation were a morass of mandatory compromise. |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-09-10 08:21 PM |
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Your last phrase says it all. had they compromised with London there would be no United States as |
robinlynne |
Dec-09-10 08:26 PM |
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True, but it wasn't the colonists who were refusing to compromise. |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-09-10 08:31 PM |
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Look at the GOP today as London then. Look at the colonist's reaction and look at Obama's reaction. |
robinlynne |
Dec-09-10 08:58 PM |
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you know, i THOUGHT i heard Obama say that. and then, i was, like, |
inna |
Dec-09-10 08:23 PM |
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Look up The Great Compromise, Three-Fifths Compromise, The Massachusetts Compromise... |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-09-10 08:24 PM |
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THANK YOU. |
emulatorloo |
Dec-09-10 08:30 PM |
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+1 n/t |
tammywammy |
Dec-09-10 08:54 PM |
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I think the small states liked fixed number of representatives per state |
Nye Bevan |
Dec-09-10 08:25 PM |
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A compromise concerning slavery. Actually many before the Civil War. |
Mass |
Dec-09-10 08:32 PM |
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reading down this thread, I have to wonder if DU'ers really are that ignorant. |
KittyWampus |
Dec-10-10 08:57 AM |
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Sure |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-09-10 08:34 PM |
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Constitution: Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 1: "The Migration or Importation of such Persons as |
struggle4progress |
Dec-09-10 08:37 PM |
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then you may not know as much about the founding of this country as you think- |
Bluerthanblue |
Dec-09-10 08:39 PM |
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Remember when Washington and Cornwallis played checkers in order |
bullwinkle428 |
Dec-09-10 08:42 PM |
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Checkers? |
notesdev |
Dec-09-10 09:07 PM |
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I thought it was |
Autumn |
Dec-09-10 09:35 PM |
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I believe that's true.... |
tulsakatz |
Dec-09-10 08:53 PM |
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Yes...our Congress is a compromise that you hear about every day. |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Dec-09-10 10:56 PM |
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How come when Mr. Obama compromises we always lose? |
TBF |
Dec-10-10 06:53 AM |
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He's right. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-10-10 06:53 AM |
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Yes, Revolution is compromise. |
mmonk |
Dec-10-10 08:27 AM |
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uggh. Go look for the entire clip instead of quoting out of context |
ecstatic |
Dec-10-10 08:50 AM |
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Of course it was |
LawnLover |
Dec-11-10 03:18 PM |
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They compromised with King George dontcha know |
lunatica |
Dec-11-10 06:52 PM |
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Ask umpteen million slaves about compromise. nt |
madinmaryland |
Dec-11-10 07:17 PM |
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Perhaps he refers to AFTER the Revolution? But he ignores THE REVOLUTION! |
WinkyDink |
Dec-11-10 07:18 PM |
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