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78. you're right, it's definitely a collaboration. nt
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  -Obama Single-Handedly Destroyed Social Security jtown1123  Dec-07-10 08:41 AM   #0 
  - Solid facts. K&R  Mimosa   Dec-07-10 08:44 AM   #1 
  - I am in my 20s so it looks like Social Security REALLY won't "be there for me"  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 08:50 AM   #3 
  - I'm 49 and have been working for over 30 years --and I feel the same way as you  txlibdem   Dec-07-10 09:10 AM   #12 
     - And we were double dipped  Celtic Raven   Dec-08-10 10:00 AM   #86 
  - the democrat party and American people are being undermined  sasha031   Dec-07-10 08:54 AM   #7 
     - It's the Democratic party  JamesA1102   Dec-07-10 09:12 AM   #13 
     - only republicans say "democrat party"  Hannah Bell   Dec-08-10 06:11 AM   #83 
  - I don't believe it wi be there for me anyway funded for now or not.  dkf   Dec-07-10 08:50 AM   #2 
  - Social Security was the only program that was working until this abomination was proposed.  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:05 AM   #10 
     - True. The only government program that was in the black -- gotta cut THAT  txlibdem   Dec-07-10 09:12 AM   #14 
     - The general fund owes the trust fund trillions along with the trillion plus we are borrowing  dkf   Dec-07-10 09:21 AM   #17 
  - The Center for Budget and Policy Priorities doesn't have to negotiate deals  Still a Democrat   Dec-07-10 08:50 AM   #4 
  - Care to address the substance of the post? eom  Hello_Kitty   Dec-07-10 09:10 AM   #11 
  - That's my concern, and the fact that Obama  Autumn   Dec-07-10 08:51 AM   #5 
  - This has been in the works awhile - not just Obama - but there are DLC handprints  TBF   Dec-07-10 08:52 AM   #6 
  - writing needs improvement. Too long... Too complex  billlll   Dec-07-10 08:57 AM   #8 
  - Yeah, well I am pretty sure she wrote this pretty quick. This needs to get out ASAP.  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:04 AM   #9 
  - agreed. we are both right. I urge someone (Altman?) with some time now  billlll   Dec-07-10 09:24 AM   #18 
  - That has always been our biggest problem though.  Shandris   Dec-07-10 09:25 AM   #19 
     - You're right. This is way too complicated to explain. The simplest  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:29 AM   #21 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-07-10 09:19 AM   #15 
  - You would have lost most of it in 2001.  ieoeja   Dec-07-10 09:38 AM   #22 
  - Chile did that... now trying to return to our ss plan  billlll   Dec-07-10 09:39 AM   #23 
  - Unrec for unsubstantiated rumors.  jaxx   Dec-07-10 09:20 AM   #16 
  - Are you serious? Altman is an SS expert. How is De-Funding Social Security in this new  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:27 AM   #20 
  - It seems you answered your own question.  jaxx   Dec-07-10 09:46 AM   #27 
     - What rumor are you referring to?  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:54 AM   #31 
        - The title of the piece is "The End of Social Security"  jaxx   Dec-07-10 10:05 AM   #34 
           - Your suggestion is to use boring titles to get people aware of serious threats to a popular program?  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 10:18 AM   #40 
  - Sure, like they were so wrong when they predicted Obama would cave on tax cuts. Rec'd for truth. nt  NorthCarolina   Dec-07-10 09:43 AM   #26 
     - He didn't cave.  jaxx   Dec-07-10 09:48 AM   #28 
        - You're quite a busy bee today.  closeupready   Dec-07-10 09:49 AM   #30 
        - How nice of you to single me out.  jaxx   Dec-07-10 10:06 AM   #35 
        - Sure thing...whatever you say. nt  NorthCarolina   Dec-07-10 09:57 AM   #33 
        - He collaborated.  Individualist   Dec-07-10 10:10 AM   #36 
        - He didn't get many good things. Just extension on unemployment benefits  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 10:20 AM   #41 
  - Remember: Reagan, both Bushes and Clinton raided the Social Security Trust Fund  txlibdem   Dec-07-10 09:39 AM   #24 
  - True. No matter who does it it's wrong.  Mimosa   Dec-07-10 10:51 AM   #50 
  - You said it  txlibdem   Dec-07-10 06:28 PM   #60 
  - Oh c'mon now. Where are your priorities?  Foo Fighter   Dec-07-10 10:19 PM   #66 
  - nobody "raided" the trust fund. this is a widespread but false belief.  Hannah Bell   Dec-08-10 06:15 AM   #84 
  - SUMMARY  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:40 AM   #25 
  - EXCELLENT! thanks  billlll   Dec-07-10 09:56 AM   #32 
  - Yes, that's exactly it. A simplified explanation but easier to understand :)  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 10:10 AM   #38 
  - You Just Repeated  RobinA   Dec-07-10 10:38 AM   #43 
  - Wash. Rinse.Repeat.  Celtic Raven   Dec-08-10 10:08 AM   #87 
  - THANK YOU for that summary. n/t  Poll_Blind   Dec-07-10 10:36 PM   #71 
  - Hey, look, people, be reasonable. War is expensive.  closeupready   Dec-07-10 09:48 AM   #29 
  - recommend  Poboy   Dec-07-10 10:10 AM   #37 
  - Obama's unspoken message to struggling seniors: Hurry up and die.  Individualist   Dec-07-10 10:14 AM   #39 
  - "liberals must support linguistic think tanks in the same way that conservatives do  billlll   Dec-07-10 10:26 AM   #42 
  - progressive message CAN be put into soundbites as easily as RW ideas  billlll   Dec-07-10 10:45 AM   #46 
     - I agree w/you billll. -nt  Poboy   Dec-07-10 11:34 AM   #53 
  - K & R  AzDar   Dec-07-10 10:41 AM   #44 
  - Unwittingly my ass  blindpig   Dec-07-10 10:44 AM   #45 
  - oh, bullshit. A payroll tax reduction is a precursor to the end of Social Security?  bigtree   Dec-07-10 10:45 AM   #47 
  - Not a joke. Here's why:  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 10:49 AM   #48 
     - that assumes revenue can't be obtained from other sources  bigtree   Dec-07-10 10:52 AM   #51 
        - One of the strengths of Social Security has been that it is not pulled out of the general fund.  JVS   Dec-07-10 10:18 PM   #64 
        - It will be on the table in 6 years anyways.  Statistical   Dec-08-10 12:23 AM   #77 
        - One of the strengths of Social Security has been that it is not pulled out of the general fund.  JVS   Dec-07-10 10:19 PM   #65 
        - ...and once it's funded from other sources,it is vulnerable to politically-motivated cuts.  lildreamer316   Dec-07-10 11:51 PM   #74 
  - ...  SidDithers   Dec-07-10 10:49 AM   #49 
  - Yup. Since the President's statement said nothing about Social Security, it is natural to ask  struggle4progress   Dec-07-10 12:22 PM   #54 
  - Please read the constitution  treestar   Dec-07-10 11:16 AM   #52 
  - you're right, it's definitely a collaboration. nt  tomp   Dec-08-10 04:29 AM   #78 
  - K&R  bvar22   Dec-07-10 12:23 PM   #55 
  - K&R  bvar22   Dec-07-10 12:23 PM   #56 
  - ROFL!  PBS Poll-435   Dec-07-10 12:26 PM   #57 
  - K&R  AndrewP   Dec-07-10 12:26 PM   #58 
  - Lots of numbers and speculation there...  pipi_k   Dec-07-10 01:13 PM   #59 
  - .  Poboy   Dec-07-10 07:51 PM   #61 
  - They aren't 'hapless' and 'clueless.'  Octafish   Dec-07-10 08:06 PM   #62 
  - The damage to Social Security is even WORSE than the giveaway to the wealthy.  Faryn Balyncd   Dec-07-10 10:08 PM   #63 
  - "Apparently, the President is ready to pull the plug on you, if not on Grandma herself."  ProSense   Dec-07-10 10:20 PM   #67 
  - Brilliant move, destroy SS when you have millions of aging baby boomer's  sasha031   Dec-07-10 10:21 PM   #68 
  - Unrec for misinformation. The 2% is replaced by funding form general fund.  Statistical   Dec-07-10 10:26 PM   #69 
  - "Misinformation" - apparently, a projection on your part.  inna   Dec-07-10 11:41 PM   #72 
  - Please see my comment above. n/t  lildreamer316   Dec-07-10 11:53 PM   #75 
  - Explain for us how general funds get plugged into that $120 billion hole in SS, please?  leveymg   Dec-08-10 04:42 AM   #80 
  - Recommend  somone   Dec-07-10 10:30 PM   #70 
  - K&R  amborin   Dec-07-10 11:47 PM   #73 
  - k&r  Starry Messenger   Dec-07-10 11:56 PM   #76 
  - Not exactly single-handedly - it was a GOP idea, after all, which Obama now embraces.  leveymg   Dec-08-10 04:38 AM   #79 
  - The basic problem with this concept  quaker bill   Dec-08-10 05:36 AM   #81 
  - kr  Hannah Bell   Dec-08-10 06:08 AM   #82 
  - Oh has he now? I was unaware of any legislation that wrote any changes to Social Security.  Arkana   Dec-08-10 07:21 AM   #85 
     - No legislation? That doesn't matter!!!!!  pipi_k   Dec-08-10 10:24 AM   #88 
 

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