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Tue Dec-07-10 11:47 PM
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| -Obama Single-Handedly Destroyed Social Security |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 08:41 AM |
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Solid facts. K&R |
Mimosa |
Dec-07-10 08:44 AM |
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I am in my 20s so it looks like Social Security REALLY won't "be there for me" |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 08:50 AM |
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I'm 49 and have been working for over 30 years --and I feel the same way as you |
txlibdem |
Dec-07-10 09:10 AM |
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And we were double dipped |
Celtic Raven |
Dec-08-10 10:00 AM |
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the democrat party and American people are being undermined |
sasha031 |
Dec-07-10 08:54 AM |
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It's the Democratic party |
JamesA1102 |
Dec-07-10 09:12 AM |
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only republicans say "democrat party" |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-10 06:11 AM |
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I don't believe it wi be there for me anyway funded for now or not. |
dkf |
Dec-07-10 08:50 AM |
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Social Security was the only program that was working until this abomination was proposed. |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:05 AM |
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True. The only government program that was in the black -- gotta cut THAT |
txlibdem |
Dec-07-10 09:12 AM |
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The general fund owes the trust fund trillions along with the trillion plus we are borrowing |
dkf |
Dec-07-10 09:21 AM |
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The Center for Budget and Policy Priorities doesn't have to negotiate deals |
Still a Democrat |
Dec-07-10 08:50 AM |
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Care to address the substance of the post? eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-07-10 09:10 AM |
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That's my concern, and the fact that Obama |
Autumn |
Dec-07-10 08:51 AM |
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This has been in the works awhile - not just Obama - but there are DLC handprints |
TBF |
Dec-07-10 08:52 AM |
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writing needs improvement. Too long... Too complex |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 08:57 AM |
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Yeah, well I am pretty sure she wrote this pretty quick. This needs to get out ASAP. |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:04 AM |
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agreed. we are both right. I urge someone (Altman?) with some time now |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 09:24 AM |
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That has always been our biggest problem though. |
Shandris |
Dec-07-10 09:25 AM |
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You're right. This is way too complicated to explain. The simplest |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:29 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-07-10 09:19 AM |
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You would have lost most of it in 2001. |
ieoeja |
Dec-07-10 09:38 AM |
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Chile did that... now trying to return to our ss plan |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 09:39 AM |
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Unrec for unsubstantiated rumors. |
jaxx |
Dec-07-10 09:20 AM |
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Are you serious? Altman is an SS expert. How is De-Funding Social Security in this new |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:27 AM |
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It seems you answered your own question. |
jaxx |
Dec-07-10 09:46 AM |
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What rumor are you referring to? |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:54 AM |
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The title of the piece is "The End of Social Security" |
jaxx |
Dec-07-10 10:05 AM |
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Your suggestion is to use boring titles to get people aware of serious threats to a popular program? |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 10:18 AM |
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Sure, like they were so wrong when they predicted Obama would cave on tax cuts. Rec'd for truth. nt |
NorthCarolina |
Dec-07-10 09:43 AM |
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He didn't cave. |
jaxx |
Dec-07-10 09:48 AM |
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You're quite a busy bee today. |
closeupready |
Dec-07-10 09:49 AM |
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How nice of you to single me out. |
jaxx |
Dec-07-10 10:06 AM |
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Sure thing...whatever you say. nt |
NorthCarolina |
Dec-07-10 09:57 AM |
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He collaborated. |
Individualist |
Dec-07-10 10:10 AM |
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He didn't get many good things. Just extension on unemployment benefits |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 10:20 AM |
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Remember: Reagan, both Bushes and Clinton raided the Social Security Trust Fund |
txlibdem |
Dec-07-10 09:39 AM |
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True. No matter who does it it's wrong. |
Mimosa |
Dec-07-10 10:51 AM |
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You said it |
txlibdem |
Dec-07-10 06:28 PM |
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Oh c'mon now. Where are your priorities? |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-07-10 10:19 PM |
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nobody "raided" the trust fund. this is a widespread but false belief. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-10 06:15 AM |
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SUMMARY |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:40 AM |
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EXCELLENT! thanks |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 09:56 AM |
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Yes, that's exactly it. A simplified explanation but easier to understand :) |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 10:10 AM |
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You Just Repeated |
RobinA |
Dec-07-10 10:38 AM |
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Wash. Rinse.Repeat. |
Celtic Raven |
Dec-08-10 10:08 AM |
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THANK YOU for that summary. n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Dec-07-10 10:36 PM |
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Hey, look, people, be reasonable. War is expensive. |
closeupready |
Dec-07-10 09:48 AM |
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recommend |
Poboy |
Dec-07-10 10:10 AM |
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Obama's unspoken message to struggling seniors: Hurry up and die. |
Individualist |
Dec-07-10 10:14 AM |
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"liberals must support linguistic think tanks in the same way that conservatives do |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 10:26 AM |
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progressive message CAN be put into soundbites as easily as RW ideas |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 10:45 AM |
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I agree w/you billll. -nt |
Poboy |
Dec-07-10 11:34 AM |
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K & R |
AzDar |
Dec-07-10 10:41 AM |
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Unwittingly my ass |
blindpig |
Dec-07-10 10:44 AM |
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oh, bullshit. A payroll tax reduction is a precursor to the end of Social Security? |
bigtree |
Dec-07-10 10:45 AM |
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Not a joke. Here's why: |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 10:49 AM |
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that assumes revenue can't be obtained from other sources |
bigtree |
Dec-07-10 10:52 AM |
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One of the strengths of Social Security has been that it is not pulled out of the general fund. |
JVS |
Dec-07-10 10:18 PM |
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It will be on the table in 6 years anyways. |
Statistical |
Dec-08-10 12:23 AM |
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One of the strengths of Social Security has been that it is not pulled out of the general fund. |
JVS |
Dec-07-10 10:19 PM |
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...and once it's funded from other sources,it is vulnerable to politically-motivated cuts. |
lildreamer316 |
Dec-07-10 11:51 PM |
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... |
SidDithers |
Dec-07-10 10:49 AM |
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Yup. Since the President's statement said nothing about Social Security, it is natural to ask |
struggle4progress |
Dec-07-10 12:22 PM |
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Please read the constitution |
treestar |
Dec-07-10 11:16 AM |
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you're right, it's definitely a collaboration. nt |
tomp |
Dec-08-10 04:29 AM |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Dec-07-10 12:23 PM |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Dec-07-10 12:23 PM |
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ROFL! |
PBS Poll-435 |
Dec-07-10 12:26 PM |
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K&R |
AndrewP |
Dec-07-10 12:26 PM |
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Lots of numbers and speculation there... |
pipi_k |
Dec-07-10 01:13 PM |
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. |
Poboy |
Dec-07-10 07:51 PM |
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They aren't 'hapless' and 'clueless.' |
Octafish |
Dec-07-10 08:06 PM |
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The damage to Social Security is even WORSE than the giveaway to the wealthy. |
Faryn Balyncd |
Dec-07-10 10:08 PM |
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"Apparently, the President is ready to pull the plug on you, if not on Grandma herself." |
ProSense |
Dec-07-10 10:20 PM |
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Brilliant move, destroy SS when you have millions of aging baby boomer's |
sasha031 |
Dec-07-10 10:21 PM |
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Unrec for misinformation. The 2% is replaced by funding form general fund. |
Statistical |
Dec-07-10 10:26 PM |
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"Misinformation" - apparently, a projection on your part. |
inna |
Dec-07-10 11:41 PM |
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Please see my comment above. n/t |
lildreamer316 |
Dec-07-10 11:53 PM |
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Explain for us how general funds get plugged into that $120 billion hole in SS, please? |
leveymg |
Dec-08-10 04:42 AM |
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Recommend |
somone |
Dec-07-10 10:30 PM |
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K&R |
amborin |
Dec-07-10 11:47 PM |
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k&r |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-07-10 11:56 PM |
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Not exactly single-handedly - it was a GOP idea, after all, which Obama now embraces. |
leveymg |
Dec-08-10 04:38 AM |
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The basic problem with this concept |
quaker bill |
Dec-08-10 05:36 AM |
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kr |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-10 06:08 AM |
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Oh has he now? I was unaware of any legislation that wrote any changes to Social Security. |
Arkana |
Dec-08-10 07:21 AM |
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No legislation? That doesn't matter!!!!! |
pipi_k |
Dec-08-10 10:24 AM |
#88 |
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