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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-07-10 10:18 PM
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64. One of the strengths of Social Security has been that it is not pulled out of the general fund.
This left it off the table during discussion of the general fund's deficit. Now it will be on the table and will be attacked.
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  -Obama Single-Handedly Destroyed Social Security jtown1123  Dec-07-10 08:41 AM   #0 
  - Solid facts. K&R  Mimosa   Dec-07-10 08:44 AM   #1 
  - I am in my 20s so it looks like Social Security REALLY won't "be there for me"  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 08:50 AM   #3 
  - I'm 49 and have been working for over 30 years --and I feel the same way as you  txlibdem   Dec-07-10 09:10 AM   #12 
     - And we were double dipped  Celtic Raven   Dec-08-10 10:00 AM   #86 
  - the democrat party and American people are being undermined  sasha031   Dec-07-10 08:54 AM   #7 
     - It's the Democratic party  JamesA1102   Dec-07-10 09:12 AM   #13 
     - only republicans say "democrat party"  Hannah Bell   Dec-08-10 06:11 AM   #83 
  - I don't believe it wi be there for me anyway funded for now or not.  dkf   Dec-07-10 08:50 AM   #2 
  - Social Security was the only program that was working until this abomination was proposed.  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:05 AM   #10 
     - True. The only government program that was in the black -- gotta cut THAT  txlibdem   Dec-07-10 09:12 AM   #14 
     - The general fund owes the trust fund trillions along with the trillion plus we are borrowing  dkf   Dec-07-10 09:21 AM   #17 
  - The Center for Budget and Policy Priorities doesn't have to negotiate deals  Still a Democrat   Dec-07-10 08:50 AM   #4 
  - Care to address the substance of the post? eom  Hello_Kitty   Dec-07-10 09:10 AM   #11 
  - That's my concern, and the fact that Obama  Autumn   Dec-07-10 08:51 AM   #5 
  - This has been in the works awhile - not just Obama - but there are DLC handprints  TBF   Dec-07-10 08:52 AM   #6 
  - writing needs improvement. Too long... Too complex  billlll   Dec-07-10 08:57 AM   #8 
  - Yeah, well I am pretty sure she wrote this pretty quick. This needs to get out ASAP.  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:04 AM   #9 
  - agreed. we are both right. I urge someone (Altman?) with some time now  billlll   Dec-07-10 09:24 AM   #18 
  - That has always been our biggest problem though.  Shandris   Dec-07-10 09:25 AM   #19 
     - You're right. This is way too complicated to explain. The simplest  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:29 AM   #21 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-07-10 09:19 AM   #15 
  - You would have lost most of it in 2001.  ieoeja   Dec-07-10 09:38 AM   #22 
  - Chile did that... now trying to return to our ss plan  billlll   Dec-07-10 09:39 AM   #23 
  - Unrec for unsubstantiated rumors.  jaxx   Dec-07-10 09:20 AM   #16 
  - Are you serious? Altman is an SS expert. How is De-Funding Social Security in this new  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:27 AM   #20 
  - It seems you answered your own question.  jaxx   Dec-07-10 09:46 AM   #27 
     - What rumor are you referring to?  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:54 AM   #31 
        - The title of the piece is "The End of Social Security"  jaxx   Dec-07-10 10:05 AM   #34 
           - Your suggestion is to use boring titles to get people aware of serious threats to a popular program?  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 10:18 AM   #40 
  - Sure, like they were so wrong when they predicted Obama would cave on tax cuts. Rec'd for truth. nt  NorthCarolina   Dec-07-10 09:43 AM   #26 
     - He didn't cave.  jaxx   Dec-07-10 09:48 AM   #28 
        - You're quite a busy bee today.  closeupready   Dec-07-10 09:49 AM   #30 
        - How nice of you to single me out.  jaxx   Dec-07-10 10:06 AM   #35 
        - Sure thing...whatever you say. nt  NorthCarolina   Dec-07-10 09:57 AM   #33 
        - He collaborated.  Individualist   Dec-07-10 10:10 AM   #36 
        - He didn't get many good things. Just extension on unemployment benefits  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 10:20 AM   #41 
  - Remember: Reagan, both Bushes and Clinton raided the Social Security Trust Fund  txlibdem   Dec-07-10 09:39 AM   #24 
  - True. No matter who does it it's wrong.  Mimosa   Dec-07-10 10:51 AM   #50 
  - You said it  txlibdem   Dec-07-10 06:28 PM   #60 
  - Oh c'mon now. Where are your priorities?  Foo Fighter   Dec-07-10 10:19 PM   #66 
  - nobody "raided" the trust fund. this is a widespread but false belief.  Hannah Bell   Dec-08-10 06:15 AM   #84 
  - SUMMARY  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 09:40 AM   #25 
  - EXCELLENT! thanks  billlll   Dec-07-10 09:56 AM   #32 
  - Yes, that's exactly it. A simplified explanation but easier to understand :)  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 10:10 AM   #38 
  - You Just Repeated  RobinA   Dec-07-10 10:38 AM   #43 
  - Wash. Rinse.Repeat.  Celtic Raven   Dec-08-10 10:08 AM   #87 
  - THANK YOU for that summary. n/t  Poll_Blind   Dec-07-10 10:36 PM   #71 
  - Hey, look, people, be reasonable. War is expensive.  closeupready   Dec-07-10 09:48 AM   #29 
  - recommend  Poboy   Dec-07-10 10:10 AM   #37 
  - Obama's unspoken message to struggling seniors: Hurry up and die.  Individualist   Dec-07-10 10:14 AM   #39 
  - "liberals must support linguistic think tanks in the same way that conservatives do  billlll   Dec-07-10 10:26 AM   #42 
  - progressive message CAN be put into soundbites as easily as RW ideas  billlll   Dec-07-10 10:45 AM   #46 
     - I agree w/you billll. -nt  Poboy   Dec-07-10 11:34 AM   #53 
  - K & R  AzDar   Dec-07-10 10:41 AM   #44 
  - Unwittingly my ass  blindpig   Dec-07-10 10:44 AM   #45 
  - oh, bullshit. A payroll tax reduction is a precursor to the end of Social Security?  bigtree   Dec-07-10 10:45 AM   #47 
  - Not a joke. Here's why:  jtown1123   Dec-07-10 10:49 AM   #48 
     - that assumes revenue can't be obtained from other sources  bigtree   Dec-07-10 10:52 AM   #51 
        - One of the strengths of Social Security has been that it is not pulled out of the general fund.  JVS   Dec-07-10 10:18 PM   #64 
        - It will be on the table in 6 years anyways.  Statistical   Dec-08-10 12:23 AM   #77 
        - One of the strengths of Social Security has been that it is not pulled out of the general fund.  JVS   Dec-07-10 10:19 PM   #65 
        - ...and once it's funded from other sources,it is vulnerable to politically-motivated cuts.  lildreamer316   Dec-07-10 11:51 PM   #74 
  - ...  SidDithers   Dec-07-10 10:49 AM   #49 
  - Yup. Since the President's statement said nothing about Social Security, it is natural to ask  struggle4progress   Dec-07-10 12:22 PM   #54 
  - Please read the constitution  treestar   Dec-07-10 11:16 AM   #52 
  - you're right, it's definitely a collaboration. nt  tomp   Dec-08-10 04:29 AM   #78 
  - K&R  bvar22   Dec-07-10 12:23 PM   #55 
  - K&R  bvar22   Dec-07-10 12:23 PM   #56 
  - ROFL!  PBS Poll-435   Dec-07-10 12:26 PM   #57 
  - K&R  AndrewP   Dec-07-10 12:26 PM   #58 
  - Lots of numbers and speculation there...  pipi_k   Dec-07-10 01:13 PM   #59 
  - .  Poboy   Dec-07-10 07:51 PM   #61 
  - They aren't 'hapless' and 'clueless.'  Octafish   Dec-07-10 08:06 PM   #62 
  - The damage to Social Security is even WORSE than the giveaway to the wealthy.  Faryn Balyncd   Dec-07-10 10:08 PM   #63 
  - "Apparently, the President is ready to pull the plug on you, if not on Grandma herself."  ProSense   Dec-07-10 10:20 PM   #67 
  - Brilliant move, destroy SS when you have millions of aging baby boomer's  sasha031   Dec-07-10 10:21 PM   #68 
  - Unrec for misinformation. The 2% is replaced by funding form general fund.  Statistical   Dec-07-10 10:26 PM   #69 
  - "Misinformation" - apparently, a projection on your part.  inna   Dec-07-10 11:41 PM   #72 
  - Please see my comment above. n/t  lildreamer316   Dec-07-10 11:53 PM   #75 
  - Explain for us how general funds get plugged into that $120 billion hole in SS, please?  leveymg   Dec-08-10 04:42 AM   #80 
  - Recommend  somone   Dec-07-10 10:30 PM   #70 
  - K&R  amborin   Dec-07-10 11:47 PM   #73 
  - k&r  Starry Messenger   Dec-07-10 11:56 PM   #76 
  - Not exactly single-handedly - it was a GOP idea, after all, which Obama now embraces.  leveymg   Dec-08-10 04:38 AM   #79 
  - The basic problem with this concept  quaker bill   Dec-08-10 05:36 AM   #81 
  - kr  Hannah Bell   Dec-08-10 06:08 AM   #82 
  - Oh has he now? I was unaware of any legislation that wrote any changes to Social Security.  Arkana   Dec-08-10 07:21 AM   #85 
     - No legislation? That doesn't matter!!!!!  pipi_k   Dec-08-10 10:24 AM   #88 

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