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Tue Dec-07-10 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #42 |
| 46. progressive message CAN be put into soundbites as easily as RW ideas |
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Edited on Tue Dec-07-10 10:50 AM by billlll
But our "culture" has been to write like a longwinded prof lecturing for fifty minutes to a captive audience.
Our LW culture is the only impediment to boiling down our ideas. True, it does require time and thought to simplify. But no more time than what the RW puts into their soundbites.
"Genius is the ability to cut into a mass of data and find the few simple core dynamics".... "to find the one inch formula that explains the cosmos"
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| -Obama Single-Handedly Destroyed Social Security |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 08:41 AM |
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Solid facts. K&R |
Mimosa |
Dec-07-10 08:44 AM |
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I am in my 20s so it looks like Social Security REALLY won't "be there for me" |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 08:50 AM |
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I'm 49 and have been working for over 30 years --and I feel the same way as you |
txlibdem |
Dec-07-10 09:10 AM |
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And we were double dipped |
Celtic Raven |
Dec-08-10 10:00 AM |
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the democrat party and American people are being undermined |
sasha031 |
Dec-07-10 08:54 AM |
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It's the Democratic party |
JamesA1102 |
Dec-07-10 09:12 AM |
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only republicans say "democrat party" |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-10 06:11 AM |
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I don't believe it wi be there for me anyway funded for now or not. |
dkf |
Dec-07-10 08:50 AM |
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Social Security was the only program that was working until this abomination was proposed. |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:05 AM |
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True. The only government program that was in the black -- gotta cut THAT |
txlibdem |
Dec-07-10 09:12 AM |
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The general fund owes the trust fund trillions along with the trillion plus we are borrowing |
dkf |
Dec-07-10 09:21 AM |
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The Center for Budget and Policy Priorities doesn't have to negotiate deals |
Still a Democrat |
Dec-07-10 08:50 AM |
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Care to address the substance of the post? eom |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-07-10 09:10 AM |
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That's my concern, and the fact that Obama |
Autumn |
Dec-07-10 08:51 AM |
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This has been in the works awhile - not just Obama - but there are DLC handprints |
TBF |
Dec-07-10 08:52 AM |
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writing needs improvement. Too long... Too complex |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 08:57 AM |
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Yeah, well I am pretty sure she wrote this pretty quick. This needs to get out ASAP. |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:04 AM |
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agreed. we are both right. I urge someone (Altman?) with some time now |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 09:24 AM |
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That has always been our biggest problem though. |
Shandris |
Dec-07-10 09:25 AM |
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You're right. This is way too complicated to explain. The simplest |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:29 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-07-10 09:19 AM |
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You would have lost most of it in 2001. |
ieoeja |
Dec-07-10 09:38 AM |
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Chile did that... now trying to return to our ss plan |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 09:39 AM |
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Unrec for unsubstantiated rumors. |
jaxx |
Dec-07-10 09:20 AM |
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Are you serious? Altman is an SS expert. How is De-Funding Social Security in this new |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:27 AM |
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It seems you answered your own question. |
jaxx |
Dec-07-10 09:46 AM |
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What rumor are you referring to? |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:54 AM |
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The title of the piece is "The End of Social Security" |
jaxx |
Dec-07-10 10:05 AM |
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Your suggestion is to use boring titles to get people aware of serious threats to a popular program? |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 10:18 AM |
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Sure, like they were so wrong when they predicted Obama would cave on tax cuts. Rec'd for truth. nt |
NorthCarolina |
Dec-07-10 09:43 AM |
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He didn't cave. |
jaxx |
Dec-07-10 09:48 AM |
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You're quite a busy bee today. |
closeupready |
Dec-07-10 09:49 AM |
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How nice of you to single me out. |
jaxx |
Dec-07-10 10:06 AM |
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Sure thing...whatever you say. nt |
NorthCarolina |
Dec-07-10 09:57 AM |
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He collaborated. |
Individualist |
Dec-07-10 10:10 AM |
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He didn't get many good things. Just extension on unemployment benefits |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 10:20 AM |
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Remember: Reagan, both Bushes and Clinton raided the Social Security Trust Fund |
txlibdem |
Dec-07-10 09:39 AM |
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True. No matter who does it it's wrong. |
Mimosa |
Dec-07-10 10:51 AM |
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You said it |
txlibdem |
Dec-07-10 06:28 PM |
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Oh c'mon now. Where are your priorities? |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-07-10 10:19 PM |
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nobody "raided" the trust fund. this is a widespread but false belief. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-10 06:15 AM |
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SUMMARY |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 09:40 AM |
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EXCELLENT! thanks |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 09:56 AM |
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Yes, that's exactly it. A simplified explanation but easier to understand :) |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 10:10 AM |
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You Just Repeated |
RobinA |
Dec-07-10 10:38 AM |
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Wash. Rinse.Repeat. |
Celtic Raven |
Dec-08-10 10:08 AM |
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THANK YOU for that summary. n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Dec-07-10 10:36 PM |
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Hey, look, people, be reasonable. War is expensive. |
closeupready |
Dec-07-10 09:48 AM |
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recommend |
Poboy |
Dec-07-10 10:10 AM |
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Obama's unspoken message to struggling seniors: Hurry up and die. |
Individualist |
Dec-07-10 10:14 AM |
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"liberals must support linguistic think tanks in the same way that conservatives do |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 10:26 AM |
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progressive message CAN be put into soundbites as easily as RW ideas |
billlll |
Dec-07-10 10:45 AM |
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I agree w/you billll. -nt |
Poboy |
Dec-07-10 11:34 AM |
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K & R |
AzDar |
Dec-07-10 10:41 AM |
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Unwittingly my ass |
blindpig |
Dec-07-10 10:44 AM |
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oh, bullshit. A payroll tax reduction is a precursor to the end of Social Security? |
bigtree |
Dec-07-10 10:45 AM |
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Not a joke. Here's why: |
jtown1123 |
Dec-07-10 10:49 AM |
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that assumes revenue can't be obtained from other sources |
bigtree |
Dec-07-10 10:52 AM |
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One of the strengths of Social Security has been that it is not pulled out of the general fund. |
JVS |
Dec-07-10 10:18 PM |
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It will be on the table in 6 years anyways. |
Statistical |
Dec-08-10 12:23 AM |
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One of the strengths of Social Security has been that it is not pulled out of the general fund. |
JVS |
Dec-07-10 10:19 PM |
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...and once it's funded from other sources,it is vulnerable to politically-motivated cuts. |
lildreamer316 |
Dec-07-10 11:51 PM |
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... |
SidDithers |
Dec-07-10 10:49 AM |
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Yup. Since the President's statement said nothing about Social Security, it is natural to ask |
struggle4progress |
Dec-07-10 12:22 PM |
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Please read the constitution |
treestar |
Dec-07-10 11:16 AM |
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you're right, it's definitely a collaboration. nt |
tomp |
Dec-08-10 04:29 AM |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Dec-07-10 12:23 PM |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Dec-07-10 12:23 PM |
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ROFL! |
PBS Poll-435 |
Dec-07-10 12:26 PM |
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K&R |
AndrewP |
Dec-07-10 12:26 PM |
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Lots of numbers and speculation there... |
pipi_k |
Dec-07-10 01:13 PM |
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. |
Poboy |
Dec-07-10 07:51 PM |
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They aren't 'hapless' and 'clueless.' |
Octafish |
Dec-07-10 08:06 PM |
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The damage to Social Security is even WORSE than the giveaway to the wealthy. |
Faryn Balyncd |
Dec-07-10 10:08 PM |
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"Apparently, the President is ready to pull the plug on you, if not on Grandma herself." |
ProSense |
Dec-07-10 10:20 PM |
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Brilliant move, destroy SS when you have millions of aging baby boomer's |
sasha031 |
Dec-07-10 10:21 PM |
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Unrec for misinformation. The 2% is replaced by funding form general fund. |
Statistical |
Dec-07-10 10:26 PM |
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"Misinformation" - apparently, a projection on your part. |
inna |
Dec-07-10 11:41 PM |
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Please see my comment above. n/t |
lildreamer316 |
Dec-07-10 11:53 PM |
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Explain for us how general funds get plugged into that $120 billion hole in SS, please? |
leveymg |
Dec-08-10 04:42 AM |
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Recommend |
somone |
Dec-07-10 10:30 PM |
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K&R |
amborin |
Dec-07-10 11:47 PM |
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k&r |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-07-10 11:56 PM |
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Not exactly single-handedly - it was a GOP idea, after all, which Obama now embraces. |
leveymg |
Dec-08-10 04:38 AM |
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The basic problem with this concept |
quaker bill |
Dec-08-10 05:36 AM |
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kr |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-08-10 06:08 AM |
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Oh has he now? I was unaware of any legislation that wrote any changes to Social Security. |
Arkana |
Dec-08-10 07:21 AM |
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No legislation? That doesn't matter!!!!! |
pipi_k |
Dec-08-10 10:24 AM |
#88 |
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