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Mon Dec-06-10 07:10 PM
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| 26. The elites own the Democratic Party |
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and the sooner Democrats understand the conflict of interest that is created for average working Americans the better off we will be. We needed a leader and true populist and got a court jester.
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| -Stop being disingenuous about the tax cut cave in and the need to save middle class tax cuts now. |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-06-10 05:05 PM |
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Proud to be the first rec. n/t |
Catherina |
Dec-06-10 05:06 PM |
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oh yeah, proud to be rec 100. nm |
rhett o rick |
Dec-06-10 08:36 PM |
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proud to be rec 209 nt |
barbtries |
Dec-07-10 06:44 AM |
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You're so right, Stinky. This just makes me so fucking angry. nt |
gateley |
Dec-06-10 05:08 PM |
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I'm going to continue to post facts on how "no deal" would affect the middle class, and if you don't |
BzaDem |
Dec-06-10 05:08 PM |
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Guess what? No one thinks that no deal would not affect adversely the middle class. |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-06-10 05:11 PM |
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So you think Obama could have gotten more? |
BzaDem |
Dec-06-10 06:34 PM |
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Obama could have won |
howaboutme |
Dec-06-10 07:23 PM |
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"We want more, more!!!" |
MrMickeysMom |
Dec-07-10 09:28 AM |
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And where's YOUR evidence |
MNBrewer |
Dec-06-10 08:16 PM |
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Because Republicans were filibustering any partial extension, and a partial extension would never |
BzaDem |
Dec-06-10 08:20 PM |
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Inept Democrats.... |
MNBrewer |
Dec-06-10 08:27 PM |
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This. Should. Have. Been. Done. Years. Ago. |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-06-10 08:35 PM |
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How could this have gotten done years ago? Ben Nelson joined their filibuster. |
BzaDem |
Dec-06-10 08:52 PM |
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You're free to stay deluded with excuses. And you seem to have one for every occasion. |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-06-10 10:03 PM |
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Perhaps because if there WEREN'T one for every occasion thus far, they would have gotten them |
BzaDem |
Dec-07-10 03:29 AM |
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it's just too much... |
druidity33 |
Dec-07-10 06:49 AM |
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Perhaps you need to come up with a slightly more sophisticated maxim? |
BzaDem |
Dec-07-10 07:55 AM |
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He should have taken the fight to the citizens. |
olegramps |
Dec-07-10 09:11 AM |
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Looks like your in the minority on this. His own party is standing up.......... |
pattmarty |
Dec-07-10 07:13 AM |
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With a lot of "leadership" (using the definitions that people here seem to have), |
BzaDem |
Dec-07-10 07:57 AM |
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But that was during the time when it was too early to expect leadership |
tavalon |
Dec-06-10 11:27 PM |
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Absolutely. Bush walked in the door and said, "We have a surplus. That means the people overpaid." |
laughingliberal |
Dec-07-10 03:36 AM |
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So you say, "take what scraps the will give?" I say bullshit. It's time to fight, it's past time to |
rhett o rick |
Dec-06-10 08:42 PM |
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People have been saying this for decades. Flashy rhetoric about "fighting" doesn't mean anything and |
BzaDem |
Dec-06-10 09:52 PM |
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So just roll over and let the republicans have their way? Go ahead. nm |
rhett o rick |
Dec-06-10 10:51 PM |
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When Republicans can block bills and are scheduled to take more seats next Congress, you have to |
BzaDem |
Dec-07-10 03:27 AM |
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It actually "could" be pretty simple. Do exactly the same fucking............ |
pattmarty |
Dec-07-10 07:19 AM |
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The vast majority of the Democratic party approves of Obama, and it has barely changed since the |
BzaDem |
Dec-07-10 07:59 AM |
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Republicans also knew that a government shut down would be blaimed on Clinton - but it wasn't |
GOTV |
Dec-07-10 07:36 AM |
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Oh baby! |
Enthusiast |
Dec-07-10 08:59 AM |
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Let the tax cuts expire and take the lead on fiscal responsibility |
howaboutme |
Dec-06-10 05:25 PM |
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Why wouldn't Republicans make them permanent in 2012 even if they expire today? That's the one |
BzaDem |
Dec-06-10 06:35 PM |
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They must reconcile the debt |
howaboutme |
Dec-06-10 07:03 PM |
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WHAT? What makes you think they would ever even THINK about reconciling the debt at the expense of a |
BzaDem |
Dec-06-10 07:42 PM |
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They don't give a crap about the debt |
bhikkhu |
Dec-07-10 12:46 AM |
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They wouldn't have won if we had leadership and strong Democrats |
tavalon |
Dec-06-10 11:28 PM |
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Agreed! |
marew |
Dec-06-10 06:47 PM |
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Exactly! |
WhaTHellsgoingonhere |
Dec-06-10 07:24 PM |
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Very nice post. |
Enthusiast |
Dec-07-10 09:01 AM |
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To pretend.. |
sendero |
Dec-06-10 07:42 PM |
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That's simply not true. |
MNBrewer |
Dec-06-10 08:15 PM |
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Here's disingenuous pal, NO FUCKING COMPROMISE. They are terrorists and will |
rhett o rick |
Dec-06-10 08:40 PM |
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Is this the part where you say "facts" but the encyclopaedia says "personal opinion." |
liberation |
Dec-06-10 08:50 PM |
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Recently, it's difficult to believe you would recognize a "fact" if one bit you on the ass. |
Atticus |
Dec-06-10 09:11 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-06-10 09:14 PM |
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Did calling their bluff never occur to you? nt |
TBF |
Dec-06-10 09:51 PM |
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your "facts" smell |
ibegurpard |
Dec-07-10 07:13 AM |
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OH HELL YEAH |
DearAbby |
Dec-06-10 05:09 PM |
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Priorities please |
notesdev |
Dec-06-10 05:27 PM |
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And denying medical marijuana to cancer patients and MS sufferers. |
glitch |
Dec-06-10 06:09 PM |
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Absolutely right on! |
Nite Owl |
Dec-06-10 05:28 PM |
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you're right they waited too long, |
veganlush |
Dec-06-10 05:31 PM |
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Thank Gods the Republicans rose (were lifted) up from the ashes! |
leftstreet |
Dec-06-10 05:41 PM |
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They do think we're stupid. And a whole fucking lot of us are. |
chimpymustgo |
Dec-06-10 06:36 PM |
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The elites own the Democratic Party |
howaboutme |
Dec-06-10 07:10 PM |
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they have those kind of leaders |
shanti |
Dec-06-10 07:33 PM |
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republicans don't care about 'leadership' |
bigtree |
Dec-06-10 05:49 PM |
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More about money |
howaboutme |
Dec-06-10 06:19 PM |
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If the leadership had been there since inaguration day, who can say where we would be now? |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-06-10 06:31 PM |
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Well, guess what??? |
Skidmore |
Dec-06-10 05:51 PM |
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Yes it will |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-06-10 06:32 PM |
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and DADT |
MNBrewer |
Dec-06-10 08:18 PM |
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To say nothing of reauthorizing unemployment |
benfranklin1776 |
Dec-06-10 09:00 PM |
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Thanks for posting this |
slay |
Dec-06-10 05:54 PM |
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What you said! K&R |
pgodbold |
Dec-06-10 06:21 PM |
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k to the mutherfucking r |
frylock |
Dec-06-10 06:32 PM |
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K&R |
me b zola |
Dec-06-10 06:38 PM |
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kick |
shanti |
Dec-06-10 07:34 PM |
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A-Fuckin- MEN!!! |
bvar22 |
Dec-06-10 07:36 PM |
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the talking point would have worked if it was their line in the sand. It wasn't. |
yurbud |
Dec-06-10 07:50 PM |
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So if I believe it's good to have at least kept one of the two tax promises, |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-06-10 07:55 PM |
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Actually, the middle class tax cut is the straw man. |
stillrockin |
Dec-06-10 08:01 PM |
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I don't know what that means. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-06-10 08:12 PM |
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me neither! |
bettyellen |
Dec-06-10 08:30 PM |
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This is what it means. |
stillrockin |
Dec-06-10 08:36 PM |
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You're honestly arguing that extending cuts for the rich is worth it to preserve them for the rest? |
LooseWilly |
Dec-06-10 08:48 PM |
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Who said anything about a win? It's a "salvage". The vote for only middle class cut extension |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-06-10 08:53 PM |
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Thanks! |
soryang |
Dec-06-10 09:38 PM |
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Just to butt in here... |
Rethuglican |
Dec-06-10 10:09 PM |
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Your username puts a bullseye on your forehead |
tavalon |
Dec-06-10 11:36 PM |
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Thank you. Snap out of it, people! We've been had. |
stillrockin |
Dec-06-10 07:59 PM |
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Too little public support for letting the tax cuts lapse |
Kaleva |
Dec-06-10 08:01 PM |
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Prithee ... who is talking about letting middle class tax cuts expire? |
Stinky The Clown |
Dec-06-10 08:39 PM |
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Um...that was one of the choices. Either pass all cuts, pass just the middle class cuts, let |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-06-10 08:48 PM |
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There isn't even majority support for just letting the tax cuts for the wealthy expire. |
Kaleva |
Dec-06-10 09:22 PM |
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Awww horseshit! |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-07-10 07:47 AM |
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This is temporary over 2 years.......what a humongous load of bullshit! |
tpsbmam |
Dec-06-10 08:56 PM |
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But on the positive side |
tavalon |
Dec-06-10 11:38 PM |
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I said when it passed 10 years ago, we'd never get rid of it. |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-07-10 07:49 AM |
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Stinky the Clown |
chriscruzan |
Dec-06-10 08:57 PM |
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December 6th, 2010 . . . the date that will live in infamy. |
mistertrickster |
Dec-06-10 09:00 PM |
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Hmmm, I remember getting a feeling of WTF when Rahm came aboard |
tavalon |
Dec-06-10 11:40 PM |
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Three-dimensional chess my ass |
Goldstein1984 |
Dec-06-10 09:04 PM |
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Dimensional? I thought it was three delusional. |
Dr.Phool |
Dec-07-10 07:50 AM |
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No. We gave up even fucking borrowed time. |
lonestarnot |
Dec-06-10 09:11 PM |
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Thank you, Stinky!! K&R for nailing it! n/t |
SaveOurDemocracy |
Dec-06-10 09:15 PM |
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Agreed! knr n/t |
slipslidingaway |
Dec-06-10 09:16 PM |
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They play good cop, bad cop. And we get slapped around and put in |
valerief |
Dec-06-10 09:17 PM |
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what could we have done? Passed another law that said they expire? |
Hamlette |
Dec-06-10 09:18 PM |
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Poor argument...There is no way that the GOP would have letthe unemployed linger for long |
erodriguez |
Dec-06-10 09:35 PM |
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LOL |
Egnever |
Dec-07-10 12:51 AM |
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GOP didn't cave on anything that I can see |
high density |
Dec-06-10 11:11 PM |
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A-freakin-men! |
sub.theory |
Dec-06-10 09:53 PM |
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predictable.... |
unkachuck |
Dec-06-10 09:57 PM |
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Rec 142 !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-06-10 09:59 PM |
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Stinky the Eloquent Clown. Thank you, Stinky. REC. nt |
bertman |
Dec-06-10 10:26 PM |
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K&R the best explanation of the debacle to date! |
Mimosa |
Dec-06-10 11:03 PM |
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Deleted message |
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Dec-06-10 11:38 PM |
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Now that he's caved the repugs are moving the goal posts again: |
Lorien |
Dec-06-10 11:40 PM |
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K&R. Can't let this one fall off the first page. n/t |
Greyhound |
Dec-07-10 12:45 AM |
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K & R |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Dec-07-10 01:26 AM |
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K & R nt |
laughingliberal |
Dec-07-10 03:23 AM |
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I never wanted them in the first place.... |
Sherman A1 |
Dec-07-10 03:33 AM |
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kick |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-07-10 03:43 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Dec-07-10 03:57 AM |
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KNR! n/t |
indimuse |
Dec-07-10 04:15 AM |
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Yeah, let's all pretend the Rethugs weren't filibustering |
pnwmom |
Dec-07-10 05:06 AM |
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LEADERSHIP! nt |
4dsc |
Dec-07-10 06:13 AM |
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k and r eom |
SmileyRose |
Dec-07-10 06:13 AM |
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For the first time |
chriscruzan |
Dec-07-10 06:21 AM |
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LOSER? |
Jamel |
Dec-07-10 07:11 AM |
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I have held on to the belief |
chriscruzan |
Dec-07-10 08:15 AM |
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K&R |
Segami |
Dec-07-10 06:24 AM |
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I thought this was addressed to DUers! |
crim son |
Dec-07-10 06:38 AM |
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k&r |
Owl |
Dec-07-10 06:46 AM |
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k&r |
ibegurpard |
Dec-07-10 07:13 AM |
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Since I was nice enough to promise you before the first slap |
democrank |
Dec-07-10 07:14 AM |
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K&R X1000! Stinky, you really got it right this time!!!!!!! nt |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-07-10 07:48 AM |
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k&r |
LWolf |
Dec-07-10 07:53 AM |
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Leadership alone doesn't get forty Republicans out of lock-step. |
Orsino |
Dec-07-10 07:54 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Dec-07-10 08:09 AM |
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It's class warfare. Wow, I replied to a Deleted Sub-Thread. How did that happen? |
slackmaster |
Dec-07-10 10:43 AM |
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all this bs about not having votes |
elmerdem |
Dec-07-10 08:17 AM |
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"Show me the jobs created in the last ten years..." This is in the top five points that |
lib_wit_it |
Dec-07-10 11:26 AM |
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Spot on-Thanks Stinky |
Scruffy1 |
Dec-07-10 08:26 AM |
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Gift to dry-cleaners in DC: Republicans piss their suits laughing at the lame |
FailureToCommunicate |
Dec-07-10 08:45 AM |
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K&R Thank you, Stinky! |
Enthusiast |
Dec-07-10 08:51 AM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Dec-07-10 09:17 AM |
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K&R! |
raouldukelives |
Dec-07-10 09:46 AM |
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The people spoke in November. |
sallyseven |
Dec-07-10 10:27 AM |
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damn straight |
florida08 |
Dec-07-10 10:32 AM |
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K & R |
AzDar |
Dec-07-10 10:33 AM |
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ABSO- GODDAMN - LUTELY |
russspeakeasy |
Dec-07-10 10:36 AM |
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All I gotta say is |
femrap |
Dec-07-10 10:57 AM |
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Locking |
The empressof all |
Dec-07-10 11:28 AM |
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