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35. Just look at the time frame: your claim is that the 31 July 2009 wikileaks disclosure
exposed corruption in the Kaupthing bank

Here's a blog from May 2009:

Because the best way to rob a bank is to own one*
by ALDA on MAY 11, 2009
According to a report on the RV evening news, the Financial Supervisory Authority has so far sent ten cases to the office of the special investigator of the bank collapse, and five more are imminent. The FSA also expects to send 15 more cases <at least> to be investigated before the end of the year. These involve insider trading, market manipulation and high-risk lending ... http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/05/because-the-bes...

Here's the same blog in early July 2009:

Kaupthing bank dishes up yet another scandal
by ALDA on JULY 2, 2009
... We already know that Kaupthing loaned some ISK 500 billion <USD 4 billion> to its largest owners and their affiliates just days before the bank collapsed last October. Now it has transpired that Kaupthings chief lawyer Helgi Sigursson received a bullet loan of ISK 450 million <USD 3.5 million> from the bank ... Anyway, bad as that is, it pales in comparison to the nearly ISK 900 million <USD 7 million> loan awarded to one Kristjn Arason, ex-head of the banks corporate division ... http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/07/kaupthing-bank-...

So the investigation was ongoing and rather predates the 31 July 2009 public wikileaks release of the loanbook -- which investigators and prosecutors already had. It's just dishonest to claim wikileaks was responsible for the investigations and prosecutions, which actually began long before the wikileaks release
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  -so why is wikileaks a good thing again.com Hissyspit  Dec-06-10 01:14 PM   #0 
  - That one item alone proves it is.  EmilyKent   Dec-06-10 01:17 PM   #1 
  - K&R n/t  bobthedrummer   Dec-06-10 01:20 PM   #2 
  - Um .. that wasn't a wikileaks revelation. The UN was investigating such stories years earlier  struggle4progress   Dec-06-10 01:26 PM   #3 
  - Proof makes all the difference.  Hissyspit   Dec-06-10 01:35 PM   #9 
     - The story about sexual exploitation in the Congo was widely reported years ago  struggle4progress   Dec-06-10 02:10 PM   #20 
        - I know that.  Hissyspit   Dec-06-10 02:47 PM   #22 
           - The point of your OP seems to be "Wikileaks exposed problems in the Congo  struggle4progress   Dec-06-10 03:22 PM   #24 
  - That one item proves it's a bad idea.......  suston96   Dec-06-10 01:27 PM   #4 
  - Can't solve a problem if you  EmilyKent   Dec-06-10 01:28 PM   #6 
  - Sorry, don't know what that means....  suston96   Dec-06-10 01:34 PM   #8 
  - Yeah, too bad there's no responsible press to follow up on some of what's found. nt  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 01:49 PM   #18 
  - see post # 3- the UN was aware of this before wikileaks  Bluerthanblue   Dec-06-10 01:49 PM   #17 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-10 01:32 PM   #7 
  - wow...thanks.  goforit   Dec-06-10 01:27 PM   #5 
  - But someone on DU said it was all about Prince Andrew and a blonde with big boobs!!!! nt  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 01:37 PM   #10 
  - Here's a good one  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 01:38 PM   #11 
  - That is not a Wikileaks disclosure  jberryhill   Dec-06-10 01:39 PM   #12 
  - Well, I found many reports online when I searched but none dated earlier than this one:  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 04:07 PM   #31 
     - Try 2004  jberryhill   Dec-06-10 05:53 PM   #38 
        - Looks like Wikileaks released a massive amount of information on it.  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 06:06 PM   #40 
           - Perhaps some details not known before?  jberryhill   Dec-06-10 06:24 PM   #41 
              - I'm for anyone who gets more information to the public & increases the chance for more people to...  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 08:42 PM   #43 
  - And another:  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 01:40 PM   #13 
  - This would have been a better link than just a "wikileaks dump".......  suston96   Dec-06-10 01:43 PM   #14 
  - Oh. Another good one not about the US!  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 01:44 PM   #15 
  - K&R n/t  Dogtown   Dec-06-10 01:45 PM   #16 
  - One more:  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 02:00 PM   #19 
  - That's nice ... but there was already an investigation into the bank, which  struggle4progress   Dec-06-10 02:24 PM   #21 
     - Huh. Would tend to make one wonder why they threw such a fit about Wikileaks publishing it.  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 03:00 PM   #23 
        - There was a referral for criminal investigation and prosecution; I can't address  struggle4progress   Dec-06-10 03:29 PM   #26 
           - Perhaps the point is the information was more widely disseminated by Wikileaks and, thus, became...  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 03:50 PM   #27 
              - Your claim was "WikiLeaks uncovered the truth behind Iceland's 2009 financial crisis, bringing  struggle4progress   Dec-06-10 04:18 PM   #33 
                 - Wasn't my claim. I took it from the website in the OP. However, I notice you provide no support...  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 04:46 PM   #34 
                    - Just look at the time frame: your claim is that the 31 July 2009 wikileaks disclosure  struggle4progress   Dec-06-10 05:20 PM   #35 
                       - I don't believe it's possible for you to show they already had all the information contained in...  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 05:46 PM   #36 
                          - The bank had been taken over by the government  struggle4progress   Dec-06-10 05:49 PM   #37 
                             - Yes. Here's what the site I linked to was questioning:  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 05:59 PM   #39 
  - .  kgnu_fan   Dec-06-10 03:28 PM   #25 
  - WikiLeaks has the potential to be a vital international resource  Azathoth   Dec-06-10 03:52 PM   #28 
  - He has it set up to carry on just fine if something happens to him. nm  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 04:00 PM   #29 
     - It won't matter if he turns the organization into a universally reviled pariah n/t  Azathoth   Dec-06-10 04:06 PM   #30 
        - Universally reviled pariah as definded by the US media. Lol. nt  laughingliberal   Dec-06-10 04:08 PM   #32 
  - Wikileaks is good for democracy --- USA needs to take some bitter medicine  kgnu_fan   Dec-06-10 06:40 PM   #42 
 

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