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Fri Dec-03-10 06:17 AM
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| 134. Good luck with the book....nt |
| -Raising retirement age to 69 is cruel and stupid |
Bragi |
Dec-02-10 09:05 AM |
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Yes, it is utterly cruel |
somone |
Dec-02-10 09:07 AM |
#1 |
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We really need to look at lowering it by at least a decade and a half. |
Ginto |
Dec-02-10 09:13 AM |
#2 |
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My personal view is that you're correct |
Bragi |
Dec-02-10 09:16 AM |
#7 |
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Going by your plan. |
Ginto |
Dec-02-10 09:19 AM |
#11 |
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No objection from me |
Bragi |
Dec-02-10 09:26 AM |
#18 |
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Haha. |
Ginto |
Dec-02-10 09:26 AM |
#20 |
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and it might help many... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-02-10 11:47 PM |
#95 |
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65 is not feasible for most Americans. |
dotymed |
Dec-03-10 08:12 AM |
#142 |
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I would go with 55 |
Sherman A1 |
Dec-03-10 02:45 AM |
#122 |
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Damn Sherman |
Enthusiast |
Dec-03-10 05:41 AM |
#127 |
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Appreciate the kind words |
Sherman A1 |
Dec-03-10 02:48 PM |
#163 |
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But Harvard researchers found a way to reverse aging in mice. |
tclambert |
Dec-03-10 05:54 AM |
#128 |
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Agreed |
GreenPartyVoter |
Dec-03-10 09:16 AM |
#153 |
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We can't afford it |
social_critic |
Dec-04-10 08:18 PM |
#174 |
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Those who work at physical labor are in even worse shape |
shraby |
Dec-02-10 09:14 AM |
#3 |
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Yes. I ran a farm and the physical wear and tear is brutal |
csziggy |
Dec-02-10 10:57 PM |
#88 |
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Try and give up commercial grain. No wheat. |
truedelphi |
Dec-03-10 02:28 AM |
#121 |
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I think I would rather give up meat, then bread. |
fasttense |
Dec-03-10 08:17 AM |
#143 |
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That will not prevent the arthritis pain of bone on bone contact |
csziggy |
Dec-03-10 11:52 AM |
#159 |
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No, giving up wheat cannot undo the damage |
truedelphi |
Dec-03-10 01:53 PM |
#161 |
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I've gone without wheat for weeks on end with no difference |
csziggy |
Dec-03-10 08:58 PM |
#166 |
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I apologize for being such an overbearing zealot. |
truedelphi |
Dec-03-10 09:45 PM |
#168 |
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That is OK - I understand where you are coming from |
csziggy |
Dec-03-10 11:23 PM |
#169 |
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I can relate. |
Enthusiast |
Dec-03-10 05:55 AM |
#129 |
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I know what you mean, though when I am in pain I need the distraction |
csziggy |
Dec-03-10 12:05 PM |
#160 |
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I don't think that they expect people to work in the same job to 69 |
FarCenter |
Dec-02-10 09:15 AM |
#4 |
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The Walmart greeter jobs are in short supply, and older people are |
JDPriestly |
Dec-03-10 12:00 AM |
#99 |
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They had better build more |
Enthusiast |
Dec-03-10 05:58 AM |
#130 |
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It should be lowered to 60 - maybe even 55. |
TBF |
Dec-02-10 09:15 AM |
#5 |
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I vote for lowering it to 48 |
SoCalNative |
Dec-02-10 09:18 AM |
#8 |
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And what's so funny about that? |
Ginto |
Dec-02-10 09:21 AM |
#13 |
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You probably think 48 is old, don't you. |
Maru Kitteh |
Dec-03-10 12:21 AM |
#110 |
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48 is not far away for me. |
Ginto |
Dec-03-10 03:12 PM |
#164 |
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43 for me |
AngryAmish |
Dec-02-10 09:22 AM |
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Nope. Mr. LL's been working since 10 and is 63 now. Course he's made of stronger stuff & has always. |
laughingliberal |
Dec-02-10 11:19 PM |
#92 |
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Arent you mature? nm |
rhett o rick |
Dec-02-10 07:30 PM |
#75 |
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Wow, can I get your autograph... |
liberation |
Dec-02-10 10:30 PM |
#82 |
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Yeah. My husband went to work at 10 to help feed his family and apprenticed in his current trade... |
laughingliberal |
Dec-02-10 11:17 PM |
#91 |
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Agreed 100%. With full health care benefits through a public service. |
geckosfeet |
Dec-03-10 06:27 AM |
#135 |
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Move it to 40 please. And triple social security while you are at it. |
dkf |
Dec-03-10 09:14 AM |
#151 |
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I believe their intent is |
femrap |
Dec-02-10 09:16 AM |
#6 |
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+1 |
area51 |
Dec-02-10 10:58 AM |
#46 |
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Yep! |
femrap |
Dec-02-10 02:55 PM |
#71 |
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Agreed. And gleefully insulting us while doing the injury. |
glitch |
Dec-02-10 01:11 PM |
#63 |
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I disagree. Although some like Cheeney may get off on hurting people, most are sociopaths. |
rhett o rick |
Dec-02-10 07:36 PM |
#78 |
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Sociopaths get off on hurting people. Remember, they're the ones who pull legs off bugs as children. |
laughingliberal |
Dec-02-10 11:13 PM |
#90 |
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China and India... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-02-10 11:51 PM |
#96 |
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No... can't string 'em up, but it might be lucrative soon to learn |
Kalyke |
Dec-03-10 12:32 AM |
#113 |
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Their cruelty is almost.... |
Enthusiast |
Dec-03-10 06:00 AM |
#131 |
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That's |
femrap |
Dec-03-10 09:57 AM |
#154 |
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Durbin, who is allegedly on "our" side, was trying to make the |
bullwinkle428 |
Dec-02-10 09:18 AM |
#9 |
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Dick Durbin's personal profile: |
TBF |
Dec-02-10 09:23 AM |
#16 |
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I could help out so many of my friends if I made 261, 114 dollars a year. |
sarcasmo |
Dec-02-10 12:52 PM |
#59 |
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but you are not an asshole... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-02-10 11:53 PM |
#97 |
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Yeah, what a great plan to make young people really hate old people. |
sad sally |
Dec-02-10 10:36 PM |
#83 |
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For those doing physcial labor, it's even worse |
MadHound |
Dec-02-10 09:19 AM |
#10 |
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I agree |
Bragi |
Dec-02-10 09:24 AM |
#17 |
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I'm 58 and a substitute teacher. Normally I am assigned to |
LibDemAlways |
Dec-02-10 09:30 AM |
#22 |
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No, not employed, not even as a sub, |
MadHound |
Dec-02-10 09:56 AM |
#30 |
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Thanks for telling us your story |
Bragi |
Dec-02-10 10:02 AM |
#31 |
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My husband is a teacher |
Dorian Gray |
Dec-02-10 10:18 AM |
#33 |
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I went to the MOJOE job fair last spring, |
MadHound |
Dec-02-10 10:28 AM |
#38 |
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Years ago I taught in a Catholic school. The turnover rate was |
LibDemAlways |
Dec-02-10 02:21 PM |
#67 |
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Good luck with the book....nt |
Enthusiast |
Dec-03-10 06:17 AM |
#134 |
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That's me. I'm a farmer and at 50, I live on Aleve. |
riderinthestorm |
Dec-02-10 09:37 AM |
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I hear you, |
MadHound |
Dec-02-10 10:31 AM |
#39 |
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40 horses at my place, breeding, selling, boarding, training and competing. |
riderinthestorm |
Dec-02-10 03:46 PM |
#74 |
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That's what I told my wife |
Enthusiast |
Dec-03-10 06:09 AM |
#133 |
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Not the kind of difficult truth we're into dealing with anymore. |
phantom power |
Dec-02-10 09:20 AM |
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How is someone who is laid off at 59 or 60 |
LibDemAlways |
Dec-02-10 09:21 AM |
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They know all that, but they truly don't care |
somone |
Dec-02-10 09:26 AM |
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what about |
shanti |
Dec-02-10 09:52 AM |
#29 |
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In my neck of the woods Silicon Valley they start laying off people at age 40 to 45. |
avaistheone1 |
Dec-02-10 10:53 AM |
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Pull themselves by their own bootstraps, obviously! |
liberation |
Dec-02-10 10:42 PM |
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have you looked into... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 12:04 AM |
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I am in microelectronics... |
liberation |
Dec-03-10 01:13 AM |
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"expected to do for the next nine or ten years?" |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 12:01 AM |
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Congress will need a companion Anti-age Discrimination Bill |
Countdown_3_2_1 |
Dec-02-10 09:29 AM |
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I suspect that wouldn't work |
Bragi |
Dec-02-10 09:32 AM |
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There is age discrimination legislation already on |
LibDemAlways |
Dec-02-10 09:33 AM |
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Plus one. It is totally ignored. nt |
Enthusiast |
Dec-03-10 06:32 AM |
#136 |
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But they'll just look around at themselves and say |
Retrograde |
Dec-02-10 01:16 PM |
#65 |
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the thing is... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 12:06 AM |
#102 |
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It's also absolutely unecessary since SS can be made permanently solvent |
rocktivity |
Dec-02-10 09:31 AM |
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Bragi, this in a remarkably honest post. You bring up an issue I have thought about |
enough |
Dec-02-10 09:35 AM |
#26 |
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I totally agree |
Bragi |
Dec-02-10 09:43 AM |
#28 |
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Knowledge and judgment are acquired with age. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-02-10 10:24 AM |
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Yeah, but they're the ones writing the cheques |
Bragi |
Dec-02-10 02:31 PM |
#69 |
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If they raise it to 69 |
guitar man |
Dec-02-10 10:06 AM |
#32 |
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Imagine if your professional area was hanging sheetrock. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-02-10 10:20 AM |
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Hurts to even imagine it /nt |
Bragi |
Dec-02-10 10:23 AM |
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oh, nothing "stupid" about it. class warfare in action, baby. |
inna |
Dec-02-10 10:24 AM |
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They are hoping you don't live to be 69, let alone still be working... |
Contrary1 |
Dec-02-10 10:31 AM |
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Sometimes im glad im 35, never even though of retirement as an option, and |
galileoreloaded |
Dec-02-10 10:42 AM |
#41 |
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What ethical boundaries are you stretching? |
Ginto |
Dec-02-10 10:47 AM |
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If you can't relate, it would be hard to understand. |
galileoreloaded |
Dec-02-10 11:11 AM |
#48 |
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You could always choose to be honest and good to people. |
Ginto |
Dec-02-10 11:24 AM |
#49 |
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K & R nt |
laughingliberal |
Dec-02-10 10:49 AM |
#43 |
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Not defending it, but it is not until 2075. nt |
AlinPA |
Dec-02-10 10:54 AM |
#45 |
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it gradually increases through the whole timeframe. it's already 67. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-03-10 01:04 AM |
#117 |
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I thought age brought wisdom? |
treestar |
Dec-02-10 10:59 AM |
#47 |
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Well, bully for you. But try grading a million papers weekly instead of doing anything else. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-02-10 11:27 AM |
#50 |
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Any age one can not like their job |
treestar |
Dec-02-10 11:34 AM |
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YOU are missing the point. It's not about "age-ism," it's about FORCING people, men, women, to work |
WinkyDink |
Dec-02-10 07:59 PM |
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Of course it is. And the oligarchs love it! nt |
laughingliberal |
Dec-03-10 11:30 AM |
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Bingo! |
Daphne08 |
Dec-03-10 03:55 AM |
#125 |
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Well glad that works well for you, but that's only for you |
MadHound |
Dec-02-10 12:18 PM |
#56 |
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not unexpected at all. nt |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 12:15 AM |
#106 |
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You're obviously under 60 |
ProudDad |
Dec-02-10 01:06 PM |
#61 |
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Age also brings diminished physical strength, reduced mobility, reduced concentration... |
liberation |
Dec-02-10 10:47 PM |
#86 |
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Obligatory '60s bashing. How original. |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Dec-02-10 10:51 PM |
#87 |
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"I hope wisdom catches up to you" |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 12:17 AM |
#107 |
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+1000000000000000000 |
QC |
Dec-03-10 06:02 AM |
#132 |
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god forbid... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 12:13 AM |
#105 |
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Obviously the only goal of some humans and their lives is to simply be working bees. |
liberation |
Dec-03-10 03:31 AM |
#123 |
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We are so selfish... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 02:30 PM |
#162 |
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, |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-03-10 01:05 AM |
#118 |
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News flash: Some people JUST. GET. TIRED. |
AngryOldDem |
Dec-03-10 08:42 AM |
#144 |
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Why not 100? |
donco6 |
Dec-03-10 08:45 AM |
#145 |
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Here's a thought. I'm an RN-55. Average age of retirement for nurses is 57. |
laughingliberal |
Dec-03-10 11:29 AM |
#156 |
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WOW. just WOW. (and I mean it, lol) |
inna |
Dec-04-10 08:45 AM |
#171 |
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Considering the number of unemployed we have now, I don't |
Vinca |
Dec-02-10 11:28 AM |
#51 |
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they don't... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 12:18 AM |
#109 |
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Retirees are living about as long as they did in the '30s |
KamaAina |
Dec-02-10 11:32 AM |
#52 |
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Kicked and recommended. |
Uncle Joe |
Dec-02-10 11:40 AM |
#54 |
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K&R nt |
mentalsolstice |
Dec-02-10 12:09 PM |
#55 |
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stupid, and it might as well be 90 |
katty |
Dec-02-10 12:30 PM |
#57 |
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Working until 69 is cruel, stupid and in many cases not even possible. |
sarcasmo |
Dec-02-10 12:50 PM |
#58 |
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Too many people are struggling with health issues |
felix_numinous |
Dec-02-10 01:06 PM |
#60 |
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my wife is a case in point... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 12:23 AM |
#111 |
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my father worked in a factory and retired on his 65th birthday |
dembotoz |
Dec-02-10 01:08 PM |
#62 |
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My Dad was a Financial Planner and did taxes after |
eilen |
Dec-02-10 03:36 PM |
#73 |
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"I am a nurse"... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-03-10 12:32 AM |
#112 |
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Age discrimination and work related injuries |
ProudDad |
Dec-02-10 01:13 PM |
#64 |
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If there aren't enough jobs now to go around, |
Blue_In_AK |
Dec-02-10 01:30 PM |
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It's cruel all right. We don't have jobs like congressmen do, where we only show up part of the year |
Raschel |
Dec-02-10 02:25 PM |
#68 |
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the world will have changed, human lifespans will have changed in 2070 |
pitohui |
Dec-02-10 02:31 PM |
#70 |
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With your powers of prophecy |
Caretha |
Dec-03-10 06:55 AM |
#138 |
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It's also unnecessary because Social Security is |
Cleita |
Dec-02-10 02:57 PM |
#72 |
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exactly. |
bdamomma |
Dec-03-10 09:07 AM |
#149 |
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Some idiots even here think that the age under discussion it the age one will have to work until. |
rhett o rick |
Dec-02-10 07:33 PM |
#76 |
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Most republicans want to see |
RegieRocker |
Dec-02-10 07:35 PM |
#77 |
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It should be lowered to 60. |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-02-10 07:40 PM |
#79 |
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Especially since people with medical problems will have no insurance and will die |
McCamy Taylor |
Dec-02-10 07:48 PM |
#80 |
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I believe that's the plan. nt |
laughingliberal |
Dec-02-10 11:20 PM |
#93 |
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yup, that could be the plan, I don't put anything past those elected officials. |
bdamomma |
Dec-03-10 09:11 AM |
#150 |
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After all, we are a cruel and stupid society. nt |
Javaman |
Dec-02-10 10:36 PM |
#84 |
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that is their perception of some of us, but not all of us are stupid/ |
bdamomma |
Dec-03-10 09:15 AM |
#152 |
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True, but for the moment, sutpid appears to rule. nt |
Javaman |
Dec-03-10 11:26 AM |
#155 |
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You're absolutely right. |
donco6 |
Dec-02-10 10:59 PM |
#89 |
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I will die on the job... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Dec-02-10 11:45 PM |
#94 |
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Bragi, at 67, I know what you mean. I just get tired faster. |
JDPriestly |
Dec-02-10 11:59 PM |
#98 |
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Good luck finding a job that will keep you |
djp2 |
Dec-03-10 12:07 AM |
#103 |
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Here is what they should do: |
JDPriestly |
Dec-03-10 12:07 AM |
#104 |
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What's even more cruel is to still have the mental abilities you |
Kalyke |
Dec-03-10 12:18 AM |
#108 |
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Billionaire suffer more than the poor/middleclass......... |
farmboxer |
Dec-03-10 12:40 AM |
#114 |
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Serfing |
leftcoastie |
Dec-03-10 01:01 AM |
#115 |
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kr |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-03-10 01:02 AM |
#116 |
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that does not fit my experience |
hfojvt |
Dec-03-10 01:30 AM |
#120 |
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Wouldn't it be nice if geezers had a choice? |
WinkyDink |
Dec-03-10 07:02 AM |
#139 |
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Not if...You'got yours! |
Hubert Flottz |
Dec-03-10 03:32 AM |
#124 |
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K&R Cruel, stupid and |
Enthusiast |
Dec-03-10 05:36 AM |
#126 |
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work? at what? seriously..... |
Locrian |
Dec-03-10 06:34 AM |
#137 |
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I just decided on my retirement date yesterday |
jumptheshadow |
Dec-03-10 07:12 AM |
#140 |
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To raise the retirement age in this country, we'd have to be |
spicegal |
Dec-03-10 07:44 AM |
#141 |
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K & R |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-03-10 08:57 AM |
#146 |
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upperclass sociopaths |
fascisthunter |
Dec-03-10 08:58 AM |
#147 |
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K&R ! //nt |
Overseas |
Dec-03-10 09:02 AM |
#148 |
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K&R great OP. n/t |
Mimosa |
Dec-03-10 11:33 AM |
#158 |
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SS has nothing to do with the debt. In fact it's running over 2 trillion dollar surplus! |
B Calm |
Dec-03-10 03:18 PM |
#165 |
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Don't any of you understand the truth behind this? |
DainBramaged |
Dec-03-10 09:01 PM |
#167 |
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I'd like to see it lowered significantly |
FooshIt |
Dec-04-10 12:39 AM |
#170 |
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As I near that magical Social-Security-eiligbile age, I dread the thought of having |
Stardust |
Dec-04-10 07:15 PM |
#172 |
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You guys must not be rich, because raising the retirement age will only... |
WhaTHellsgoingonhere |
Dec-04-10 07:18 PM |
#173 |
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I'm not rich |
social_critic |
Dec-04-10 08:19 PM |
#175 |
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