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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-10 06:29 PM
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37. I don't think that last line is true
particularly not with officers. When I worked for DOD, I was a GS-7 potential 12 and my supervior was a Captain. Thw Captain and the Lieutenants that I worked with made lots more money than I did.

Unfortunately though, the military is a sacred cow in present-day America. To suggest that their pay be frozen would be the political equivalent of cutting your throat. Especially with the war going on.
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  -The Federal Employee Pay Freeze, And Why YOU Might Just Want To Give A Shit !!! WillyT  Nov-29-10 05:11 PM   #0 
  - First, I am a federal employee who is a member of the union. Unfortunately  Liberal_Stalwart71   Nov-29-10 05:13 PM   #1 
  - Wait until January  hfojvt   Nov-29-10 06:22 PM   #29 
     - Yep. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the Republicans voted to raise their salaries.  Liberal_Stalwart71   Nov-30-10 07:17 AM   #62 
  - Oh hey know we little people are just dying to get fucked up again.  MichiganVote   Nov-29-10 05:14 PM   #2 
  - Agree or not, this is NOT a big deal,  elleng   Nov-29-10 05:17 PM   #3 
  - Well Then... As Soon As They Use Clawback To Take Wall Street Bonuses And Profits For The Deficit...  WillyT   Nov-29-10 05:23 PM   #6 
  - And eat your young.  elleng   Nov-29-10 05:25 PM   #9 
     - So... You're A Trickle Downer ???  WillyT   Nov-29-10 05:31 PM   #19 
        - Not into reason or logic, eh? Prefer ad hominem? Highly constructive.  elleng   Nov-29-10 05:37 PM   #20 
           - Well Your Post (#9) Was A Tad Obtuse...  WillyT   Nov-29-10 05:59 PM   #25 
              - 'give anybody supporting this my middle finger'  elleng   Nov-29-10 06:17 PM   #26 
                 - Well Please... Show Me The Errors Of My Ways...  WillyT   Nov-29-10 06:20 PM   #28 
                    - How much money do you make?  hfojvt   Nov-29-10 06:24 PM   #32 
                       - NOYFB !!!  WillyT   Nov-29-10 06:27 PM   #35 
                          - That would be the first step.  hfojvt   Nov-29-10 06:36 PM   #40 
                             - "... why should I be particularly concerned if they don't get increases?"  WillyT   Nov-29-10 07:01 PM   #42 
                             - yawn, so they created the minimum wage law 70 years ago  hfojvt   Nov-29-10 07:51 PM   #50 
                                - "... so they created the minimum wage law 70 years ago"... Said The Man Standing On A...  WillyT   Nov-29-10 08:08 PM   #55 
                             - you can't compare PT time wages to FT wages -- moreover, this low tide is going to strand YOUR boat  nashville_brook   Nov-29-10 07:29 PM   #46 
                                - I cannot compare myself to a CEO either  hfojvt   Nov-29-10 07:54 PM   #51 
  - If it is no big deal then why doesn't the military get the freeze also?  Arctic Dave   Nov-29-10 05:23 PM   #7 
     - It's Gotta Be One Of Those 3-Dimensional Chess Moves...  WillyT   Nov-29-10 05:26 PM   #10 
     - Different category of 'employee.' Think about it,  elleng   Nov-29-10 05:27 PM   #12 
        - Are you fed, housed, clothed and medical?  Arctic Dave   Nov-29-10 05:28 PM   #13 
        - Are you putting your life on the line every day?  Starbucks Anarchist   Nov-29-10 05:49 PM   #22 
           - Everyday someone wakes up there is possibility of harm.  Arctic Dave   Nov-29-10 09:58 PM   #59 
              - Are you seriously comparing civilian life to that of a soldier on the front line?  Starbucks Anarchist   Nov-29-10 10:17 PM   #60 
                 - And they get paid extra for it already.  Arctic Dave   Nov-30-10 11:38 AM   #72 
                    - And they deserve extra pay for what they do.  Starbucks Anarchist   Nov-30-10 06:09 PM   #74 
                       - Really? Apparently you have never been in the military to make such a laughable statement.  Arctic Dave   Nov-30-10 10:05 PM   #75 
                          - I never claimed to be in the military.  Starbucks Anarchist   Nov-30-10 10:17 PM   #76 
                             - Hero worshiper. Everyone has some type of fetish.  Arctic Dave   Nov-30-10 11:29 PM   #78 
                                - So appreciating the military is now a "fetish"?  Starbucks Anarchist   Dec-01-10 12:19 AM   #81 
                                   - Let me guess, next you are going to say that because of our heros it allows me to say these things.  Arctic Dave   Dec-01-10 01:11 PM   #82 
                                      - Then I don't want to hear you complain about withdrawing troops.  Starbucks Anarchist   Dec-01-10 01:56 PM   #83 
                                         - I'll go one further, not only do I want them withdrawn, and you are right  Arctic Dave   Dec-01-10 03:14 PM   #84 
        - I don't think that last line is true  hfojvt   Nov-29-10 06:29 PM   #37 
           - "Politcally cutting your throat"  Hawkowl   Nov-30-10 01:54 AM   #61 
  - Patco is now union.nt  FLyellowdog   Nov-29-10 05:19 PM   #4 
  - Traditionally, government wages and benefits have been considered the standard.  iamtechus   Nov-29-10 05:20 PM   #5 
  - Exactly !!!  WillyT   Nov-29-10 05:24 PM   #8 
  - Exactly. This is a big deal for just that reason (and the union-busting too). nt  blondeatlast   Nov-29-10 05:29 PM   #14 
  - well, that's the stupidest thing i have read or heard all day  crazyjoe   Nov-29-10 07:59 PM   #53 
  - I know what this will mean: thousands will leave the Federal Government  Taverner   Nov-29-10 05:26 PM   #11 
  - This is the most delusional post in months. Private sector...  Safetykitten   Nov-29-10 05:30 PM   #16 
  - Well, in the only market I know, IT, they are jumping off en masse  Taverner   Nov-29-10 05:47 PM   #21 
  - This is a right wing false hood  Scruffy1   Nov-29-10 08:50 PM   #57 
  - How is a pay freeze the final straw?  Starbucks Anarchist   Nov-29-10 05:50 PM   #23 
  - And that's actually a MYTH  Taverner   Nov-29-10 05:52 PM   #24 
     - Are you including the pensions that allow them to retire at 50yo  taught_me_patience   Nov-30-10 11:34 PM   #79 
  - That'll open up some jobs for the unemployed then  treestar   Nov-29-10 06:24 PM   #33 
  - Yes, especially since there are so many jobs available  proud2BlibKansan   Nov-29-10 07:31 PM   #47 
  - Steal our Social Security, Cut Union Workers Pay, Endless Wars, the Rich Keep Their Tax Cuts  earth mom   Nov-29-10 05:30 PM   #15 
  - You nailed it Earth MOM, no difference, why don't we freeze the endless wars that would solve the  sarcasmo   Nov-29-10 06:22 PM   #30 
  - +1,000,000  muffin1   Nov-30-10 08:28 AM   #67 
  - agree  dana_b   Nov-30-10 10:24 PM   #77 
  - Steal our Social Security, Cut Union Workers Pay, Endless Wars, the Rich Keep Their Tax Cuts  earth mom   Nov-29-10 05:30 PM   #17 
  - When they came after my union years ago I said you guys will be next  NNN0LHI   Nov-29-10 05:30 PM   #18 
  - For Me...  WillyT   Nov-29-10 06:17 PM   #27 
  - And they're blind to how craven it all is.  glitch   Nov-29-10 06:28 PM   #36 
  - And hasn't so much of the reduction of our standard of living due to envy or apathy.  Raschel   Nov-29-10 06:26 PM   #34 
     - + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!  WillyT   Nov-29-10 06:30 PM   #38 
  - Sorry if you complained about the COLA, no complaints allowed on this  treestar   Nov-29-10 06:23 PM   #31 
  - I'm Sorry... What Does That Even Mean ???  WillyT   Nov-29-10 06:31 PM   #39 
  - If you think union labor has no recourse without the Dept. of Labor, well...  blondeatlast   Nov-30-10 08:24 AM   #66 
  - KICK!  senseandsensibility   Nov-29-10 06:59 PM   #41 
  - Civil Service Employees Who Are Excepted Service Fields  swilton   Nov-29-10 07:02 PM   #43 
  - k&r  Starry Messenger   Nov-29-10 07:03 PM   #44 
  - 30 More Years!  Octafish   Nov-29-10 07:20 PM   #45 
  - Send Washington a simple message: Austerity for ASSHOLES on Wall Street who caused the problem!  yurbud   Nov-29-10 07:38 PM   #48 
  - + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!!  WillyT   Nov-29-10 07:42 PM   #49 
  - sorry, still don't give a shit.  crazyjoe   Nov-29-10 07:54 PM   #52 
  - Well Hey... Thanks For Pitchin In...  WillyT   Nov-29-10 08:11 PM   #56 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-30-10 11:48 PM   #80 
  - As for the president, it's been frozen since 2001..  nessa   Nov-29-10 08:00 PM   #54 
  - Link re congress salary ->  Obamanaut   Nov-29-10 08:52 PM   #58 
  - I'm not indifferent to your struggle, but...  Township75   Nov-30-10 07:56 AM   #63 
  - It's just another in a long line of steps to strip the middle class n/t  AndrewP   Nov-30-10 08:04 AM   #64 
  - You don't know that the Presidential salary has been the same since 2001?...  SidDithers   Nov-30-10 08:19 AM   #65 
  - Many people are lucky if they even have jobs, or haven't taken a cut in salary -  TBF   Nov-30-10 08:28 AM   #68 
     - And rightfully so...  SidDithers   Nov-30-10 08:30 AM   #69 
        - I have to admit I don't know the average federal worker salary -  TBF   Nov-30-10 08:37 AM   #70 
  - Excellent post  malaise   Nov-30-10 08:40 AM   #71 
  - All bets are off for wages in this country.  peace13   Nov-30-10 03:09 PM   #73 
  - The President cut salaries of advisors  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-01-10 03:17 PM   #85 
  - I watched pensions disappear and more then one person lose  Rex   Dec-01-10 03:23 PM   #86 

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