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30. What rights can they violate in the name of security? nt
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  -OMG a Terrorist at a tree lighting ceremony in Portland! boston bean  Nov-27-10 09:37 AM   #0 
  - They still have to set people up  notadmblnd   Nov-27-10 09:39 AM   #1 
  - are we sure he couldn't get fertilizer and gasoline?  Motown_Johnny   Nov-27-10 09:44 AM   #6 
  - Every car, anus underside of breast and scrotum must be search for any public gathering. nt  boston bean   Nov-27-10 09:45 AM   #7 
  - Quickly followed by..."Dont touch my junker gate"  NuclearDem   Nov-27-10 10:39 AM   #41 
     - how about don't touch my "clunk"-er.....  boston bean   Nov-27-10 10:44 AM   #45 
  - probably. However, without the help of the feds- he probably wouldn't know what to do with it.  notadmblnd   Nov-27-10 10:23 AM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-28-10 08:45 AM   #78 
  - We are safe now---Thanks Napolitano  saigon68   Nov-27-10 09:39 AM   #2 
  - Another graduate of the FBI terrorist training program...  rfranklin   Nov-27-10 09:40 AM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-28-10 08:46 AM   #79 
  - I recall having to go through metal detectors at an Air Force  treestar   Nov-27-10 09:43 AM   #4 
  - They don't here in Omaha  NuclearDem   Nov-27-10 10:25 AM   #31 
  - I love the smell of entrapment early in the morning - n/t  coalition_unwilling   Nov-27-10 09:43 AM   #5 
  - Do you know if it was? I don't know the full facts, I do know he is presumed innocent until proven  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:12 AM   #17 
  - I don't know if it was entrapment. But I get mighty suspicious when I  coalition_unwilling   Nov-27-10 10:26 AM   #33 
  - Especially if you are muslim, right?  Xenotime   Nov-27-10 10:18 AM   #25 
  - Maybe  treestar   Nov-27-10 11:02 PM   #66 
  - BS.  HuckleB   Nov-28-10 01:30 AM   #70 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-28-10 08:48 AM   #80 
  - Okay, maybe it's just me, but I'm glad they got this guy off the streets. rop  LiberalLoner   Nov-27-10 09:46 AM   #8 
  - the point I was trying to make is what liberty would one be willing to give up if the guy had blown  boston bean   Nov-27-10 09:49 AM   #9 
  - Good point. n/t  ChazII   Nov-27-10 09:56 AM   #11 
  - If the guy had blown up the Portland Tree Lighting Ceremony, a lot of families w/little kids would  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-10 08:25 PM   #54 
  - In other words, you're ignoring that the FBI did its job.  HuckleB   Nov-28-10 01:31 AM   #71 
  - I don't know if it was entrapment or not, hopefully, that will become clear  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:20 AM   #27 
     - No shit.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-28-10 12:29 AM   #68 
  - These stories are all over the country.  Radical Activist   Nov-27-10 09:56 AM   #10 
  - Same deal with the would be DC metro bomber..  HipChick   Nov-27-10 10:04 AM   #14 
  - I'm still amazed at how he could get such a good parking spot. n/t  rucky   Nov-27-10 10:00 AM   #12 
  - Overlords, I don't want my rights, thanks for protecting me I must submit.  sarcasmo   Nov-27-10 10:02 AM   #13 
  - What rights did they violate? /nt  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:05 AM   #16 
  - What rights can they violate in the name of security? nt  boston bean   Nov-27-10 10:24 AM   #30 
     - Even in the name of security, they eventually would need to go to a FISA court to get authorization  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:28 AM   #36 
        - Did FISA give the TSA authority to take nude pictures of people and search their private parts?  boston bean   Nov-27-10 10:31 AM   #38 
           - As I said, previously, since the Patriot Act, I am not sure if FISA is even used, and that is a  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:41 AM   #43 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-28-10 08:50 AM   #81 
  - You have a problem with the FBI finally doing their job? Remember the The Centennial Olympic Park  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:04 AM   #15 
  - You're right, we should subject all school age children to anal and vaginal probes  boston bean   Nov-27-10 10:12 AM   #18 
  - You sound like you've thought this out  Renew Deal   Nov-27-10 10:15 AM   #20 
  - Did you ever think you would need to have a naked picture of yourself taken at the airport?  boston bean   Nov-27-10 10:16 AM   #21 
  - Please provide the links since I have not seen these searches at movie theaters  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:16 AM   #22 
  - I have nothing to provide it isn't happening yet. But it's only common sense if a terrorist  boston bean   Nov-27-10 10:17 AM   #23 
     - bull. The way they did it with the ku klux klan is they infiltrated the organization  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:26 AM   #32 
     - What is bull, the fact that you are fighting with yourself. You and I are talking about two  boston bean   Nov-27-10 10:28 AM   #34 
        - You are absolutely correct, and I apologize. I mixed it up with another post, sorry /nt  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:30 AM   #37 
     - I really don't understand what you're so angry about.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-28-10 06:29 AM   #74 
  - What the fuck does that have to do with this story?  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-10 08:26 PM   #55 
  - I'm just wondering, do you have a list of "homegrown" that were charged with terrorism?  notadmblnd   Nov-27-10 10:28 AM   #35 
     - I know two off the top of my head, the Oklahoma bombing, and the abortion clinic bomber  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:39 AM   #42 
     - My point is that they are not officially labled "terrorists"  notadmblnd   Nov-27-10 10:58 AM   #48 
        - Official or not, they are terrorists, and have been characterized as such not only by the press, but  still_one   Nov-27-10 09:54 PM   #63 
     - If the FBI had done this with Tim McVeigh, a lot of lives would have been saved.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-10 08:32 PM   #62 
  - WE NEED NAKED SCANNERS EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!1111!!!!! nt  woo me with science   Nov-27-10 10:14 AM   #19 
  - I want them to scan me when I go to the movies, the mall, the game, the concert.  sarcasmo   Nov-27-10 11:08 AM   #51 
  - entrapment?  DonCoquixote   Nov-27-10 10:17 AM   #24 
  - +1 n/t  JTFrog   Nov-27-10 10:18 AM   #26 
  - It depends. If this was done through investigation, tips, infiltration, etc. I don't think it is  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:36 AM   #39 
  - Exactly they just didn't go & target him....contrary to popular belief..  Historic NY   Nov-27-10 10:51 AM   #46 
  - That is the unfortunate legacy of the bush administration, which is why some are skeptical /nt  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:55 AM   #47 
  - Right  DonCoquixote   Nov-27-10 08:09 PM   #53 
  - self delete.  sarcasmo   Nov-27-10 11:10 AM   #52 
  - why did they need to set this person up? without them there would be no crime?  2Design   Nov-27-10 10:22 AM   #28 
  - What if it was discovered during an investigation or a tip, before their involvement with the  still_one   Nov-27-10 10:43 AM   #44 
  - Next step is x-ray scan for every kid wanting to see Santa  somone   Nov-27-10 10:38 AM   #40 
  - Gives a new meaning to "war on Christmas", doesn't it?  lightningandsnow   Nov-27-10 11:00 AM   #49 
  - Moral of the story (again and again):  CJCRANE   Nov-27-10 11:07 AM   #50 
  - Yes, please, offer helpful advice to psychopaths who want to kill large numbers of people.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-10 08:27 PM   #56 
     - My helpful advice was not to do it!  CJCRANE   Nov-28-10 07:10 AM   #76 
  - did they have to wait till he pressed the button to arrest him? looks like showbiz  spanone   Nov-27-10 08:29 PM   #57 
  - this.  KG   Nov-28-10 06:34 AM   #75 
  - Shaken' & and a Quakin'  The abyss   Nov-27-10 08:29 PM   #58 
  - How is this bullshit? Hyped up?  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-10 08:31 PM   #61 
  - The bottom line to this story is- this was a psychopath who repeatedly expressed intent  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-10 08:30 PM   #59 
  - they only got one guy out of that?  CreekDog   Nov-27-10 08:30 PM   #60 
  - So, this guy wasn't a danger?  HuckleB   Nov-28-10 01:32 AM   #72 
     - Yeah, but he wasn't a pro  CreekDog   Nov-28-10 02:58 AM   #73 
        - Luckily, he wasn't a pro.  HuckleB   Nov-28-10 10:29 AM   #82 
  - "You know there's going to be a lot of children there?"  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-10 10:56 PM   #64 
  - I, for one, am very glad they caught this guy.  LisaL   Nov-27-10 10:57 PM   #65 
     - No doubt.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-27-10 11:10 PM   #67 
  - This is an illogical OP.  HuckleB   Nov-28-10 01:29 AM   #69 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-28-10 08:44 AM   #77 

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