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highprincipleswork Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-10 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. Public Relations
Can we all just realize that George W. Bush had the greatest attack on U.S. soil and still managed to leave office as if he wasn't responsible at all. How did he do that? Messaging. Control of the media. Control of the message. I would rather that President Obama and Democrats of all stripes got ahold of the message, than that they imitate Republicans and give away everything precious of our republic, just as the Republicans do, but just more slowly.

No, standing for something is not a bargaining chip, to be given away. If Democrats would only realize that if and when they stand on principle they are stronger than all these little giveaways, we would be in much better shape, as a country and as a party.

No, I am not interested in giving away my civil liberties for any purpose or fashion or any future pie in the sky either.

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  -TSA, or T&A Yeggo  Nov-27-10 09:12 AM   #0 
  - My question for those who are ok with crotch gropes....  hlthe2b   Nov-27-10 09:18 AM   #1 
  - forcing menstruating women to remove their tampons  saigon68   Nov-27-10 09:31 AM   #6 
     - ahh, misogyny is not at all dead on DU  hlthe2b   Nov-27-10 09:42 AM   #9 
  - Not T&A, but T&A&S  somone   Nov-27-10 09:21 AM   #2 
  - What's so special about flying?  pintobean   Nov-27-10 09:22 AM   #3 
  - The numbers  treestar   Nov-27-10 09:40 AM   #8 
     - So we crowd people in TSA lines so that any perpetrator ....  hlthe2b   Nov-27-10 10:04 AM   #12 
        - In any public area, some people can at least run  treestar   Nov-27-10 11:06 PM   #59 
  - How many people boarded a plane from a US airport with explosives  Eric J in MN   Nov-27-10 09:23 AM   #4 
  - And how many have they caught since?  pintobean   Nov-27-10 09:26 AM   #5 
  - But TSA found some pot and alcohol.  LisaL   Nov-27-10 10:45 AM   #18 
  - Zero.  LisaL   Nov-27-10 10:45 AM   #17 
  - You're not the only one.  jefferson_dem   Nov-27-10 09:36 AM   #7 
  - The ACLU (of which, in full disclosure, I'm a member) has opposed the  coalition_unwilling   Nov-27-10 09:50 AM   #10 
     - No. I'm not saying that.  jefferson_dem   Nov-27-10 10:11 AM   #13 
        - It's times like this that I really, really wish  woo me with science   Nov-27-10 10:21 AM   #14 
  - I've got an idea  notesdev   Nov-27-10 09:52 AM   #11 
  - maybe they should have two planes for each flight  veganlush   Nov-27-10 10:34 AM   #15 
  - Maybe the people who are scared of terrorists should stay home.  LisaL   Nov-27-10 10:44 AM   #16 
     - if you're so scared of a stranger touching you,  veganlush   Nov-27-10 10:53 AM   #20 
     - TSA has never found someone trying to bring explosives  LisaL   Nov-27-10 10:56 AM   #22 
        - is it possible that the screenings  veganlush   Nov-27-10 11:02 AM   #25 
        - Before TSA implemented their enhanced pat downs and  LisaL   Nov-27-10 11:21 AM   #27 
        - They have stopped explosives  jberryhill   Nov-27-10 12:57 PM   #37 
           - Whom did they stop?  LisaL   Nov-27-10 01:17 PM   #39 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-27-10 01:36 PM   #41 
                 - And I don't care for your confusing table that stops in 2001,  LisaL   Nov-27-10 01:37 PM   #42 
                    - WTF? The table ends in 2008  jberryhill   Nov-27-10 01:40 PM   #45 
                    - Where are the explosives in that table?  LisaL   Nov-27-10 01:43 PM   #47 
                       - Here you go  jberryhill   Nov-27-10 01:47 PM   #48 
                          - So what happened to this guy? Was he convicted of anything?  LisaL   Nov-27-10 01:54 PM   #49 
                             - Are you, like, proud of your inability to find stuff out?  jberryhill   Nov-27-10 02:05 PM   #50 
                                - 2 years probation, community service and a fine?  LisaL   Nov-27-10 02:06 PM   #51 
                                   - Was the explosive device detected and kept off of a plane?  jberryhill   Nov-27-10 02:28 PM   #53 
                                      - Clearly nobody believes that guy was trying to blow up the plane,  LisaL   Nov-27-10 02:32 PM   #54 
                    - +1000  hlthe2b   Nov-27-10 07:02 PM   #58 
        - That is simply not true - they HAVE stopped explosives  jberryhill   Nov-27-10 12:30 PM   #35 
           - Whom should I believe? You or John Pistole?  LisaL   Nov-27-10 01:18 PM   #40 
              - "on a flight" - now you are simply being deceptive  jberryhill   Nov-27-10 01:38 PM   #43 
                 - Fire arms and knives can be found by metal detectors.  LisaL   Nov-27-10 01:39 PM   #44 
                    - No, not ceramic knives  jberryhill   Nov-27-10 01:42 PM   #46 
                       - O'key, I will admit that I misunderstood Pistole quote.  LisaL   Nov-27-10 02:11 PM   #52 
                          - No I would not agree with that proposition  jberryhill   Nov-27-10 02:35 PM   #55 
                             - Why would TSA hide an attempt to blow up the plane that  LisaL   Nov-27-10 02:37 PM   #56 
     - that's no different from what i said.  veganlush   Nov-27-10 10:59 AM   #23 
        - You know perfectly well no one will be providing two planes.  LisaL   Nov-27-10 11:00 AM   #24 
  - The bottom line with this issue is:  veganlush   Nov-27-10 10:50 AM   #19 
  - TSA always appears to try and stop the attempt  LisaL   Nov-27-10 10:55 AM   #21 
     - I think at the very least it provides deterent.  veganlush   Nov-27-10 11:21 AM   #26 
        - Why would it be necessary for a terrorist to get on the plane  LisaL   Nov-27-10 11:22 AM   #28 
           - It's NOT necessary, but it is one way to do it.  veganlush   Nov-27-10 11:37 AM   #29 
              - So, I presume you are just fine with these pat down stations  LisaL   Nov-27-10 11:39 AM   #30 
                 - Knockng a plane out of the sky  veganlush   Nov-27-10 11:59 AM   #31 
                    - Are you willing?  highprincipleswork   Nov-27-10 12:15 PM   #33 
                       - The big picture  veganlush   Nov-27-10 12:29 PM   #34 
                          - Public Relations  highprincipleswork   Nov-27-10 12:34 PM   #36 
                             - I agree  veganlush   Nov-27-10 12:57 PM   #38 
  - Scared out of our wits.  highprincipleswork   Nov-27-10 12:08 PM   #32 
     - Box cutters were allowed on planes until after the 9/11/2001 attack. NT  Eric J in MN   Nov-27-10 04:47 PM   #57 

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