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59. The underwear bomber was on a watch list, his dad reported him, boarded a plane without a passport-
Edited on Fri Nov-26-10 04:51 AM by Gravel Democrat
...On November 11, British intelligence officials sent the U.S. a cable indicating that a man named Umar Farouk had spoken to al-Awlaki, pledging to support jihad, but the cable did not reflect Abdulmutallabs last name. Abdulmutallabs father made a report to two CIA officers at the U.S. Embassy in Abuja, Nigeria, on November 19 regarding his sons extreme religious views, and told the embassy that Abdulmutallab might be in Yemen. Acting on the report, the suspects name was added in November 2009 to the U.S..s 550,000-name Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment, a database of the U.S. National Counterterrorism Center. It was not added, however, to the FBIs 400,000-name Terrorist Screening Database, the terror watch list that feeds both the 14,000-name Secondary Screening Selectee list and the U.S.s 4,000-name No Fly List, nor was his U.S. visa revoked.

...U.S. State Department officials said in Congressional testimony that the State Department had wanted to revoke Abdulmutallabs visa, but U.S. intelligence officials requested that his visa not be revoked. The intelligence officials stated reason was that revoking Abdulmutallabs visa could have foiled a larger investigation into al-Qaida.

...He had purchased his ticket with cash in Ghana on December 16. Prior to boarding the plane eyewitnesses Kurt Haskell and Lori Haskell testified live on CNN that they witnessed a smartly dressed Indian man helping Abdulmutallab onto the plane. They also testify that the ticket agent refused to allow Abdulmutallab on the plane because he did not have his own passport

**Would you be able to board an airplane bound for the US without a passport?***

Each and every one of these *facts* has been documented at the following link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Farouk_Abdulmutallab

So by following established rules and adding a little common sense, there would have been no underwear bomber.

Where does the negligence lie here?

Will anyone from the Government be held to account for the outrageous errors and oversights listed above?

Edit to ask if this Ames/Levine circus act were all pissed off when Koch Industries gave funding to the DLC and served on it's executive council (I'd bet not):

Right-wing Koch Industries gave funding to the DLC and served on its Executive Council
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...




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