| 99. Exactly ... do we expect this millionaire/multi-millionaire Congress to change anything-? |
| -Our country has been stolen from us. Our lives have been stolen from us. |
Cyrano |
Nov-23-10 09:50 AM |
#0 |
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Ban the GOP...Duh!!! |
BanTheGOP |
Nov-23-10 09:54 AM |
#1 |
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I'm sorry, but the Dems were there, too |
ixion |
Nov-23-10 09:57 AM |
#2 |
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Think about what you just wrote. The Dems support capitalism, militarism, and elitism |
Catherina |
Nov-23-10 10:13 AM |
#14 |
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Note I said "republicanist"...not "republican" |
BanTheGOP |
Nov-23-10 10:24 AM |
#23 |
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Yes. The "..ist" broadens the meaning to suggest a system of |
ladjf |
Nov-23-10 10:54 AM |
#30 |
| -
You may ban the Republican Party but the members would simply |
kelly1mm |
Nov-23-10 02:00 PM |
#45 |
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Elaboration is frankly unnecessary, but here goes... |
BanTheGOP |
Nov-23-10 02:08 PM |
#46 |
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Thanks for that. My question was what would you do with the conservative |
kelly1mm |
Nov-23-10 02:14 PM |
#48 |
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Simple... |
Glassunion |
Nov-23-10 05:49 PM |
#77 |
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Since the Party relies on flawed legal premises in the first place |
BanTheGOP |
Nov-23-10 08:28 PM |
#97 |
| -
But what if the majority of voters do not want a progressive democracy? |
kelly1mm |
Nov-23-10 10:46 PM |
#130 |
| -
You are correct. Someone did come up with a very appropriate |
Cal33 |
Nov-24-10 07:47 AM |
#159 |
| -
Sounds good, but I'm afriad this is totally unworkable |
lark |
Nov-24-10 01:41 PM |
#177 |
| -
The DLC would welcome the ex-GOP candidates with open arms. |
NorthCarolina |
Nov-24-10 08:55 AM |
#169 |
| -
Touche. You did. But do you think the Democrats serve moneyed interests any less? |
Catherina |
Nov-23-10 03:39 PM |
#55 |
| -
Exactly.... |
sendero |
Nov-23-10 07:00 PM |
#85 |
| -
one party going by two names. nt |
awoke_in_2003 |
Nov-23-10 07:13 PM |
#88 |
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Yes. It is becoming painfully apparent. |
Quantess |
Nov-23-10 10:10 PM |
#124 |
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Hardly matters as long as Capitalism is in place. |
blindpig |
Nov-23-10 04:04 PM |
#59 |
| -
375 thousand people making more than a million/yr in US and 44% are in congress. |
bjobotts |
Nov-23-10 05:20 PM |
#71 |
| -
Exactly ... do we expect this millionaire/multi-millionaire Congress to change anything-? |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 08:33 PM |
#99 |
| -
They would have us wallow in despair, but.... |
blindpig |
Nov-24-10 07:02 AM |
#153 |
| -
The urgency to protect our natural resources |
maryf |
Nov-24-10 08:50 AM |
#168 |
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I would make a distinction. It isn't capitalism. |
Joe Fields |
Nov-23-10 08:00 PM |
#94 |
| -
Capitalism is doing what it is intended to do .... move wealth of nations and natural resources... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 08:37 PM |
#100 |
| -
it looks to me like you are disagreeing to agree. |
Joe Fields |
Nov-23-10 08:46 PM |
#102 |
| -
If we have time, I'm sure we'll work it out --- but disagree with you .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 09:29 PM |
#118 |
| -
firstly, capitalism.org's self serving definition |
tiny elvis |
Nov-24-10 08:06 AM |
#160 |
| -
I would profoundly disagree. |
blindpig |
Nov-24-10 07:32 AM |
#157 |
| -
1000% .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 08:31 PM |
#98 |
| -
Capitalism is the problem...? No, people gaming the system is the problem. |
Creative |
Nov-23-10 05:19 PM |
#70 |
| -
The collective (aka the species) SHOULD have more rights than any individual. |
kestrel91316 |
Nov-23-10 07:50 PM |
#93 |
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Good point - and if the SPECIES has more rights, those rights extend to far more individuals |
Raksha |
Nov-24-10 03:30 AM |
#143 |
| -
such as what? |
MNBrewer |
Nov-24-10 07:31 AM |
#156 |
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I say "rights" - you say "forced procreation". Your response is truly |
kestrel91316 |
Nov-24-10 11:43 AM |
#174 |
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No, you do not gain more rights by being the member of a collective. |
Creative |
Nov-25-10 07:12 AM |
#187 |
| -
Capitalism is the very opposite of democracy and freedom -- |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 08:40 PM |
#101 |
| -
says you.... |
Joe Fields |
Nov-23-10 08:50 PM |
#106 |
| -
The natural state of capitalism is NOT its regulated state .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 09:33 PM |
#120 |
| -
Wasn't trying to be mean spirited. We are just at odds with definitions. |
Joe Fields |
Nov-23-10 11:33 PM |
#135 |
| -
Agree with you it is definition --- |
defendandprotect |
Nov-24-10 07:34 AM |
#158 |
| -
The most advanced civilizations in the world are those that embrace capitalism. |
Creative |
Nov-25-10 07:14 AM |
#188 |
| -
The rights of the collective |
maryf |
Nov-24-10 08:35 AM |
#162 |
| -
Freedom, in the US, is recognized by the Constitution, not "the universal declaration |
Creative |
Nov-25-10 07:10 AM |
#186 |
| -
We are doomed under Capitalism |
txlibdem |
Nov-24-10 01:17 AM |
#140 |
| -
Both parties are bought and paid for by Corporations. This is Corporate controlled America. |
sarcasmo |
Nov-23-10 01:39 PM |
#43 |
| -
Obama showed us his corporate hand immediately after the election .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 08:48 PM |
#103 |
| -
Sorry to tell ya but the DINOS in office are worse than the rethugs. |
earth mom |
Nov-23-10 03:08 PM |
#51 |
| -
Yeah but that is only a handful compared to the entire repub party |
bjobotts |
Nov-23-10 05:42 PM |
#74 |
| -
The "Money Party" is composed of all repubs and a handul of dems.It's ideology prevention |
bjobotts |
Nov-23-10 05:44 PM |
#75 |
| -
Got Prozac™? Paxil™? If so, then you need to add Abilify™. |
Billy Burnett |
Nov-23-10 09:58 AM |
#3 |
| -
"Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill"? |
TK421 |
Nov-23-10 10:15 AM |
#15 |
| -
Because you've been down that road |
moblsv |
Nov-23-10 04:49 PM |
#65 |
| -
Sad thing is, I like that road....they had some great noodles n/t |
TK421 |
Nov-23-10 06:38 PM |
#81 |
| -
But What happens when you need to... |
jonthebru |
Nov-23-10 10:57 AM |
#31 |
| -
Read Yes! Magazine and similar publications.... |
OneGrassRoot |
Nov-23-10 09:58 AM |
#4 |
| -
Wow, thank you for the Yes! magazine recommendation, OneGrassRoot. |
Raksha |
Nov-24-10 03:59 AM |
#144 |
| -
Yay! |
OneGrassRoot |
Nov-24-10 08:37 AM |
#164 |
| -
Though the oligarchs have overplayed their hand on the environmental front... |
villager |
Nov-23-10 10:00 AM |
#5 |
| -
You wanna make a bet? |
swilton |
Nov-23-10 03:48 PM |
#57 |
| -
Sure -- and privatized security, etc. But their arrogance is that they literally think they live on |
villager |
Nov-23-10 05:51 PM |
#78 |
| -
For years now, the Mall at Short Hills here in NJ, features collections of IRON GATES..... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 08:50 PM |
#105 |
| -
Agree with you ... but think it will be Global Warming which will play the final cards .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 08:57 PM |
#108 |
| -
I have the formula. The keys to mass prosperity. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-23-10 10:01 AM |
#6 |
| -
interesting post -- would love to hear more. |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Nov-23-10 10:05 AM |
#8 |
| -
Grape Kool Aid? |
Billy Burnett |
Nov-23-10 10:05 AM |
#9 |
| -
Hahaha |
Klukie |
Nov-23-10 10:07 AM |
#11 |
| -
Why in the world |
BonnieJW |
Nov-23-10 10:07 AM |
#10 |
| -
Weird, eh? |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-23-10 10:16 AM |
# |
| -
Good question. The short answer? |
The Doctor. |
Nov-23-10 10:16 AM |
#17 |
| -
And truly finding the right people is a challenge... |
OneGrassRoot |
Nov-23-10 10:19 AM |
#20 |
| -
You have no idea. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-23-10 10:30 AM |
#27 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-23-10 12:48 PM |
#39 |
| -
... |
The Doctor. |
Nov-23-10 02:22 PM |
#49 |
| -
Try Michael Moore - - Ralph Nader - - Soros -- |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 09:02 PM |
#109 |
| -
No, they don't give a shit at all |
info being |
Nov-24-10 04:06 AM |
#146 |
| -
I've emailed Michael Moore... no response. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-25-10 07:06 AM |
#184 |
| -
does it involve the TARDIS? |
yodermon |
Nov-23-10 04:05 PM |
#60 |
| -
Hehehe... it's in the shop. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-25-10 07:08 AM |
#185 |
| -
The Formula |
bbigrob |
Nov-23-10 05:11 PM |
#69 |
| -
One would identify ones' self in a varifiable fashion, |
The Doctor. |
Nov-25-10 07:04 AM |
#183 |
| -
I've been there |
info being |
Nov-24-10 04:04 AM |
#145 |
| -
Actually, that's part of the solution. |
The Doctor. |
Nov-25-10 07:00 AM |
#182 |
| -
I wish I had the answers.... |
Klukie |
Nov-23-10 10:04 AM |
#7 |
| -
After observing for 25 years or so, I am quite sure of the answer |
Doctor_J |
Nov-23-10 10:29 AM |
#26 |
| -
What can we realistically do to stop our slide into oblivion? I will tell you |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-23-10 10:08 AM |
#12 |
| -
+1 We are nothing without a manufacturing base. n/t |
Catherina |
Nov-23-10 10:16 AM |
#16 |
| -
We have to overturn the trade agreements. ... renew tariffs .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 09:04 PM |
#110 |
| -
I agree with NNNOLHI and Catherina |
Mimosa |
Nov-24-10 12:44 AM |
#139 |
| -
The Democrats seem to agree with the Goebbels of the RW |
OHdem10 |
Nov-23-10 10:11 AM |
#13 |
| -
Rec'd with great sadness n/t |
Catherina |
Nov-23-10 10:17 AM |
#18 |
| -
They Thought They Were Free.. |
Fumesucker |
Nov-23-10 10:18 AM |
#19 |
| -
The same thing is going on here. |
nicky187 |
Nov-23-10 12:51 PM |
#40 |
| -
My impression is they have been corporatizing colleges/universities for decades ..... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 09:07 PM |
#111 |
| -
that is absolutely chilling... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Nov-23-10 07:19 PM |
#89 |
| -
that was absolutely chilling... |
awoke_in_2003 |
Nov-23-10 07:20 PM |
#90 |
| -
How do we stop the slide? By stopping the capitalism. Ain't gonna be easy - |
TBF |
Nov-23-10 10:20 AM |
#21 |
| -
Re-regulating capitalism was the first thing Obama should have been doing ..... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 09:09 PM |
#112 |
| -
I mostly agree - but I'm not blaming "the government." n/t |
LeftinOH |
Nov-23-10 10:22 AM |
#22 |
| -
Where do we go from here? Nowhere. |
kctim |
Nov-23-10 10:28 AM |
#24 |
| -
People are waking up because so far the elites haven't been able to |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 09:18 PM |
#115 |
| -
Our internal war |
kctim |
Nov-24-10 08:58 AM |
#170 |
| -
Giving a little harder thought to both your posts ..... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-24-10 02:48 PM |
#178 |
| -
Interesting points |
kctim |
Nov-24-10 04:26 PM |
#179 |
| -
Possibly .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-24-10 11:27 PM |
#181 |
| -
I was gonna say, "Form our own country" |
Wednesdays |
Nov-23-10 10:29 AM |
#25 |
| -
I think we agree and it seems to me that we need some creative destruction. |
Greyhound |
Nov-23-10 10:51 AM |
#28 |
| -
I like what you are saying. However, I can't seem to get a grasp |
ladjf |
Nov-23-10 11:02 AM |
#34 |
| -
It is not likely at all, but it is possible. |
Greyhound |
Nov-24-10 09:23 AM |
#172 |
| -
You know how I feel |
mstinamotorcity |
Nov-24-10 08:48 AM |
#166 |
| -
You know, a year ago I would have accused you of hyperbole. |
woo me with science |
Nov-23-10 10:54 AM |
#29 |
| -
But not our melodrama! |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-23-10 10:59 AM |
#32 |
| -
Looks like our Snarky Invincible Ignorance is still a growth Industry as well. |
TheWatcher |
Nov-23-10 05:03 PM |
#67 |
| -
Fine post, that speaks for many of us. |
ladjf |
Nov-23-10 10:59 AM |
#33 |
| -
Just change a few words and it could speak for a lot more. |
Igel |
Nov-23-10 12:42 PM |
#38 |
| -
I've been saying for a while it's the final push to steal the last few pennies from our pockets. |
laughingliberal |
Nov-23-10 11:42 AM |
#35 |
| -
KnR |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-23-10 12:27 PM |
#36 |
| -
I think what we're seeing is the end of a golden age. Global |
Flatulo |
Nov-23-10 12:31 PM |
#37 |
| -
Skilled labor in my town used to be $20 an hour plus ten years ago |
Crazy Dave |
Nov-23-10 12:54 PM |
#41 |
| -
It doesn't matter how skilled you are... |
Flatulo |
Nov-23-10 04:30 PM |
#61 |
| -
They're also bringing the skilled labor from overseas here too |
Crazy Dave |
Nov-23-10 09:33 PM |
#119 |
| -
"giant ghetto" - Matt Taibbi. |
moondust |
Nov-23-10 01:27 PM |
#42 |
| -
Sounds like a teabagger talking at dinner with friends. We've made it till now not owning our |
herbm |
Nov-23-10 01:57 PM |
#44 |
| -
The really ugly truth is that we never had this country to begin with. |
alarimer |
Nov-23-10 02:09 PM |
#47 |
| -
Exactly ... taken in theft, built by slaves, kept by assassination .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 09:21 PM |
#116 |
| -
I'm not incredibly rich. |
TZ |
Nov-23-10 03:04 PM |
#50 |
| -
What country is that??? |
Plucketeer |
Nov-23-10 03:26 PM |
#52 |
| -
Get back to us in a year you lucky one. n/t |
Catherina |
Nov-23-10 03:42 PM |
#56 |
| -
Thank You So Much For The Update from your Unaffected Bubble World. |
TheWatcher |
Nov-23-10 05:06 PM |
#68 |
| -
Shhhhhhhh. ........ |
oldhippie |
Nov-24-10 08:50 AM |
#167 |
| -
Ban together and starve the Beast!!!!! |
mstinamotorcity |
Nov-23-10 03:32 PM |
#53 |
| -
excellent!!! |
handmade34 |
Nov-23-10 06:37 PM |
#80 |
| -
Tell me something I don't already know! |
Butch350 |
Nov-23-10 03:38 PM |
#54 |
| -
We can do nothing. All is lost, we're all doomed. |
proteus_lives |
Nov-23-10 03:55 PM |
#58 |
| -
are you having cranberrie sauce or |
onethatcares |
Nov-23-10 04:43 PM |
#62 |
| -
Not much for cranberries. |
proteus_lives |
Nov-23-10 11:47 PM |
#136 |
| -
"Do we sit around waiting for our own funerals?" |
maryf |
Nov-23-10 04:46 PM |
#63 |
| -
If only the propaganda didn't get young people to fight in wars for the elite. |
valerief |
Nov-23-10 04:48 PM |
#64 |
| -
That is a pretty good recount of it. |
Rex |
Nov-23-10 04:54 PM |
#66 |
| -
Eloquent. |
Mimosa |
Nov-23-10 05:20 PM |
#72 |
| -
We're working locally along these lines... |
ProudDad |
Nov-23-10 05:33 PM |
#73 |
| -
I love this OP/post. -nt |
Poboy |
Nov-23-10 05:47 PM |
#76 |
| -
As the TeaBaggers say "We want our country back" so we will have to |
fasttense |
Nov-23-10 06:07 PM |
#79 |
| -
we are backed into a corner, most of us |
handmade34 |
Nov-23-10 06:42 PM |
#82 |
| -
"It's not polite to discuss politics or religion in public" --- That had best no longer be true!! |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 09:24 PM |
#117 |
| -
one of the most difficult is |
handmade34 |
Nov-23-10 10:13 PM |
#125 |
| -
Agree ..... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 10:22 PM |
#126 |
| -
K&R. And Obama is at best simply presiding over it, instead of doing anything meaningful to stop it, |
katandmoon |
Nov-23-10 06:48 PM |
#83 |
| -
Like the Doctor |
BobbyBoring |
Nov-23-10 06:48 PM |
#84 |
| -
"Our country has been stolen from us. Our lives have been stolen from us." |
prodigals0n |
Nov-23-10 07:08 PM |
#86 |
| -
This very same thing is repeated over and over and over and over and over and over here. |
UrbScotty |
Nov-23-10 07:09 PM |
#87 |
| -
Funny, every single of those historical figures you mention also said many things... |
liberation |
Nov-23-10 07:49 PM |
#92 |
| -
It's not a pretty picture emerging. |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Nov-23-10 07:49 PM |
#91 |
| -
Its the press that we have to get right |
madokie |
Nov-23-10 08:12 PM |
#95 |
| -
Elites have been working on knocking out Constitution and "democracy" since first begun.... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 08:27 PM |
#96 |
| -
The arc of the moral universe is long.. |
ThoughtCriminal |
Nov-23-10 08:48 PM |
#104 |
| -
Run liberal celebrities who are anti-corporate and male |
janet118 |
Nov-23-10 08:52 PM |
#107 |
| -
Believe me, I'm not laughing .... it's a great Plan B .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 09:41 PM |
#121 |
| -
alec baldwin? |
meow mix |
Nov-24-10 08:45 AM |
#165 |
| -
Was Viggo Mortensen born in America? |
janet118 |
Nov-24-10 11:58 AM |
#175 |
| -
So....we should use the teabagger line, "I want my country back"?? |
progressoid |
Nov-23-10 09:12 PM |
#113 |
| -
Actually that was Howard Dean's line first . . . |
janet118 |
Nov-23-10 11:19 PM |
#133 |
| -
"Before long..." - I think that, 'America is dispensable', was decided in the 90s |
ShamelessHussy |
Nov-23-10 09:17 PM |
#114 |
| -
It's what the GOP has been working for over 60 years ..."Third world America" ... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-23-10 09:43 PM |
#122 |
| -
It really makes life easier to skate through when you fell owned, doesn't it? |
bluestate10 |
Nov-23-10 09:45 PM |
#123 |
| -
yes, but... I don't believe we control our destiny, entirely |
handmade34 |
Nov-23-10 10:42 PM |
#128 |
| -
ESPECIALLY during periods of costly bad luck and slow work weeks . . . |
HughBeaumont |
Nov-23-10 10:32 PM |
#127 |
| -
I'm not going down without a fight |
Tsiyu |
Nov-23-10 10:43 PM |
#129 |
| -
I'll be fighting along with you |
handmade34 |
Nov-24-10 08:35 AM |
#163 |
| -
Thanks handmade34 |
Tsiyu |
Nov-24-10 10:24 AM |
#173 |
| -
Great post and sadly very true. |
AnArmyVeteran |
Nov-23-10 11:11 PM |
#131 |
| -
This "new" Economic Dis-Enfranchisment of the Middle Class Started in the 80s Against African... |
Yavin4 |
Nov-23-10 11:15 PM |
#132 |
| -
Well, what I'm doing is moving to a small town to start a small business. |
Bette Noir |
Nov-23-10 11:25 PM |
#134 |
| -
Wish I knew. My "safe" union, nursing job is actually under attack. |
AllyCat |
Nov-24-10 12:24 AM |
#137 |
| -
"They owe no allegiance to the Americans..." |
handmade34 |
Nov-24-10 08:32 AM |
#161 |
| -
financially i am fucked |
reggie the dog |
Nov-24-10 12:35 AM |
#138 |
| -
I don't feel that pessimistic, we just need to get the truth out with great passion. |
DemocraticPilgrim |
Nov-24-10 01:27 AM |
#141 |
| -
Kick# 180 Stop the TSA |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-24-10 02:49 AM |
#142 |
| -
some of us have been awake for decades |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-24-10 04:42 AM |
#147 |
| -
The Answer is |
kaffy4x4 |
Nov-24-10 04:57 AM |
#148 |
| -
The unions are what created the Middle Class |
olegramps |
Nov-24-10 05:54 AM |
#149 |
| -
Truly a bipartisan mess. |
Clear Blue Sky |
Nov-24-10 06:09 AM |
#150 |
| -
You Are In My Head. Sad it is ending this way. n/t |
sandyj999 |
Nov-24-10 06:10 AM |
#151 |
| -
it actually goes back to 400-500 years ago.... |
Locrian |
Nov-24-10 06:42 AM |
#152 |
| -
decline |
creon |
Nov-24-10 07:07 AM |
#154 |
| -
well said |
Locrian |
Nov-24-10 07:19 AM |
#155 |
| -
We do not have a democracy |
manny70 |
Nov-24-10 09:11 AM |
#171 |
| -
Welcome to DU, manny. And your ability to see reality is also welcome. |
Cyrano |
Nov-24-10 01:39 PM |
#176 |
| -
one of the answers... |
handmade34 |
Nov-24-10 04:30 PM |
#180 |
| -
. |
Poboy |
Nov-25-10 12:36 PM |
#189 |
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