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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:49 PM
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46. I'm surprised you think you could get away with this.
For the record, I am no Rosa Parks. For one thing, there is no guarantee I will even need to say a word as I may very well not be targeted for additional screening. Let's not count the eggs in the basket, shall we?

However, Rosa Parks did not have a plan when she got on that bus, nor did she have an organization backing her. Revisionist history on that one and it shouldn't go without note. She was tired and didn't want to move. At the point she made that decision she could not have been aware what was going to happen next in her name. I'm a little tired of those who reposition her as some sort of activist saint. She was a tired human being who became a symbol and motivation for a boycott. I have no pretensions that I would even come close to what she became, nor do I want to be.
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  -I am neither rich nor famous. (Warning: Bypass if you are sick of TSA threads) Pacifist Patriot  Nov-21-10 05:14 PM   #0 
  - I hope you never have to use this plan. You are a brave soul. Kudos!  Little Star   Nov-21-10 05:18 PM   #1 
  - Sigh, good luck and I hope you will not be harassed.  Alameda   Nov-21-10 05:19 PM   #2 
  - Sigh, good luck and I hope you will not be harassed.  Alameda   Nov-21-10 05:19 PM   #3 
  - Sigh, good luck and I hope you will not be harassed.  Alameda   Nov-21-10 05:19 PM   #4 
  - Realize Mr. Pistole started to prepare the dial down  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-21-10 05:24 PM   #5 
  - Awesome! I'm all in favor of the powers that be seeing reason before I fly again.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 05:26 PM   #7 
  - I can see keeping one of these things to be used with  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-21-10 05:28 PM   #10 
  - He didn't say "dial down."  LisaL   Nov-21-10 05:53 PM   #23 
     - Read tea leaves  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-21-10 05:59 PM   #27 
        - One can only hope, but  LisaL   Nov-21-10 06:03 PM   #29 
           - You forgot the chemical sniffers  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-21-10 06:05 PM   #30 
              - I don't think anyone was objecting to those?  LisaL   Nov-21-10 06:07 PM   #31 
                 - They are gone because they were all but effective  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-21-10 06:17 PM   #35 
  - Bring a witness  notesdev   Nov-21-10 05:25 PM   #6 
  - You could be making a very expensive mistake  taught_me_patience   Nov-21-10 05:28 PM   #8 
  - Meaningless?  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-21-10 05:29 PM   #11 
  - It will accomplish nothing. Therefore it is meaningless. n/t  taught_me_patience   Nov-21-10 05:31 PM   #12 
     - Accomplish nothing? Perhaps.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 05:33 PM   #14 
     - Yeah, it will do nothing  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-21-10 05:40 PM   #16 
     - Rosa Parks was meaningless?  CreekDog   Nov-21-10 05:52 PM   #21 
     - Rosa Parks and a plan, srategy, and organization behind her.  Radical Activist   Nov-21-10 06:22 PM   #36 
        - so that's what made her meaningful? backing? some random person shouldn't have done what she did?  CreekDog   Nov-21-10 06:38 PM   #40 
        - Many random people did do what she did many times before.  Radical Activist   Nov-21-10 06:43 PM   #41 
        - actually i'm concerned about one of the machines they use that I can't opt out of  CreekDog   Nov-21-10 06:48 PM   #45 
        - I'm surprised you think you could get away with this.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 06:49 PM   #46 
        - I know. She always said she had no thoughts of starting a movement. Her feet were tired.  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 06:51 PM   #49 
        - I'm not surprised you believe the naive fairy tail version of what happened.  Radical Activist   Nov-21-10 07:03 PM   #59 
        - You've bought the mythology.  Radical Activist   Nov-21-10 06:57 PM   #53 
           - The Mythology?  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 07:02 PM   #57 
           - Rosa Parks attending workshops at the Highlander Folk School,  Radical Activist   Nov-21-10 07:04 PM   #60 
              - You really don't get it do you?  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 07:08 PM   #63 
              - You're not getting the point.  Radical Activist   Nov-21-10 07:15 PM   #65 
              - Because they learned from the "meaningless" acts of those people before them. nt  Hissyspit   Nov-22-10 03:52 AM   #107 
           - I'm gonna take her word for it  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 07:05 PM   #61 
              - She was secretary of the local NAACP,  Radical Activist   Nov-21-10 07:11 PM   #64 
                 - Her own words carry more credibility with me than yours or some  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 07:19 PM   #67 
                    - I've heard the claims on both sides and as I wasn't present at the time...  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 07:21 PM   #68 
                    - +1000 nt  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 07:23 PM   #72 
                    - It's up to you  Radical Activist   Nov-21-10 07:29 PM   #76 
                    - You forgot a few other details  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-21-10 08:32 PM   #90 
                    - it really is unbelievable that  ima_sinnic   Nov-22-10 01:22 PM   #123 
        - Rosa Parks knew of those people.  Hissyspit   Nov-22-10 03:50 AM   #106 
        - Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 06:49 PM   #47 
           - counseled by the activist that doing something is meaningless  CreekDog   Nov-21-10 06:50 PM   #48 
              - No. That organization is necessary.  Radical Activist   Nov-21-10 06:52 PM   #51 
              - ok  CreekDog   Nov-21-10 07:00 PM   #56 
                 - Yeah. Looks like we're whipped.  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 07:07 PM   #62 
                    - It's time to give up on the "me generation" libertarian form of activism  Radical Activist   Nov-21-10 07:16 PM   #66 
                       - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-21-10 07:22 PM   #70 
                       - Yeah, might as well give up.  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 08:40 PM   #91 
                       - Yes I absolutely agree. Too bad your form of "activism" is organizing inside the Democratic Party  readmoreoften   Nov-22-10 03:11 AM   #105 
                       - Just because I don't  Radical Activist   Nov-22-10 10:38 AM   #109 
                       - then lead  reggie the dog   Nov-22-10 02:35 PM   #126 
              - Up is down. nt  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 06:54 PM   #52 
        - Rosa Parks did NOT have a plan, strategy, OR organization behind her  ima_sinnic   Nov-22-10 02:48 AM   #104 
           - When you're ready  Radical Activist   Nov-22-10 10:54 AM   #110 
              - You come off as really condescending.  de novo   Nov-22-10 11:11 AM   #112 
              - So does all the  Radical Activist   Nov-22-10 11:20 AM   #113 
                 - The OP doesn't mention Obama.  de novo   Nov-22-10 11:24 AM   #114 
                    - So?  Radical Activist   Nov-22-10 11:29 AM   #115 
                       - I commented on your condescending tone,  de novo   Nov-22-10 11:33 AM   #117 
                          - I'm aware, and  Radical Activist   Nov-22-10 11:47 AM   #119 
              - what EXACTLY is your point?  ima_sinnic   Nov-22-10 01:29 PM   #124 
     - You are not familiar with the success already of some who did  sabrina 1   Nov-21-10 06:08 PM   #32 
        - +1000. nt  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 08:27 PM   #88 
  - I've never really considered advocating for constitutional rights to be meaningless.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 05:32 PM   #13 
  - Meaningless, like the dead civil rights protesters, like the Viet Nam protesters?  LiberalArkie   Nov-21-10 05:47 PM   #18 
  - A different breed we were in those days.  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 06:57 PM   #54 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-21-10 05:55 PM   #25 
  - What could be more expensive than the loss of rights?  sabrina 1   Nov-21-10 06:01 PM   #28 
  - None so blind as those...  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 06:59 PM   #55 
  - You obviously did not read her post  Caretha   Nov-21-10 06:33 PM   #38 
  - Maybe the OP would try it in DC and not make it home to the family  taught_me_patience   Nov-21-10 09:18 PM   #95 
  - You should take a course in civics and history.  Matariki   Nov-21-10 07:44 PM   #81 
  - I applaud your courage to take a principled stand.... despite  hlthe2b   Nov-21-10 05:28 PM   #9 
  - I sincerely wish you the best! I am flying Wednesday  onecent   Nov-21-10 05:39 PM   #15 
  - I believe you are correct  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-21-10 05:41 PM   #17 
  - More power to you.  LisaL   Nov-21-10 05:50 PM   #19 
  - I think it's cool  bigwillq   Nov-21-10 05:52 PM   #20 
  - Not entirely altruistic.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 05:55 PM   #24 
     - There cannot be enough discussion about the violations this  sabrina 1   Nov-21-10 06:11 PM   #34 
  - Good luck!  Odin2005   Nov-21-10 05:52 PM   #22 
  - Thank you for taking a stand and good luck. You are doing what  sabrina 1   Nov-21-10 05:59 PM   #26 
  - Good luck, seriously.  Laelth   Nov-21-10 06:09 PM   #33 
  - That's really all I want to see.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 06:25 PM   #37 
  - Good advise. I like your idea.  Left coast liberal   Nov-21-10 06:33 PM   #39 
  - You ARE NOT a cop out! You have conflicting duties, to your son  coalition_unwilling   Nov-21-10 08:54 PM   #94 
  - i have to fly with my 3 year old  reggie the dog   Nov-22-10 03:22 PM   #130 
     - you may also have this problem getting OFF the plane  TorchTheWitch   Nov-23-10 05:53 AM   #143 
        - i fly directly to chicago,  reggie the dog   Nov-23-10 07:10 AM   #144 
           - the rules apply to the whole nation  TorchTheWitch   Nov-23-10 05:24 PM   #153 
  - Be sure to report what you see if it compromises your privacy to the ACLU  KoKo   Nov-21-10 06:47 PM   #42 
  - Not to fear, my attorney has already provided me with...  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 06:51 PM   #50 
     - Godspeed and good wishes for you and your safety. nt  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 07:02 PM   #58 
        - Thank you.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 07:23 PM   #71 
           - ...  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 07:26 PM   #74 
  - +1000 nt  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 06:47 PM   #43 
  - Or you are free to take the train  JamesA1102   Nov-21-10 07:22 PM   #69 
  - Yet another who fails to read in its entirety.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 07:26 PM   #75 
  - You're the one missing the point  JamesA1102   Nov-21-10 07:34 PM   #78 
     - No, not really.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 07:44 PM   #82 
        - +1000 nt  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 07:48 PM   #84 
        - Yes really  JamesA1102   Nov-21-10 08:17 PM   #86 
        - I am ticketed on Delta.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 08:46 PM   #93 
           - Delta Airlines has to adhere to regulations  JamesA1102   Nov-21-10 09:35 PM   #96 
        - how is there no constitutional right to take a plane?  reggie the dog   Nov-22-10 03:10 PM   #128 
           - I would agree we have a constitutional right to move freely about...  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-22-10 05:02 PM   #132 
           - of course we have a right  reggie the dog   Nov-23-10 01:59 AM   #141 
           - Yes you can move freely  JamesA1102   Nov-22-10 05:11 PM   #134 
              - like riding your own bike or  reggie the dog   Nov-23-10 02:02 AM   #142 
                 - So you're saying the government has no right of regulation of airlines  JamesA1102   Nov-23-10 08:41 AM   #145 
                    - no right to invasive searches  reggie the dog   Nov-23-10 12:03 PM   #147 
                       - X-raying your bag without probable cause  JamesA1102   Nov-23-10 02:56 PM   #148 
                          - i would prefer that they would just do away with all of the searches  reggie the dog   Nov-23-10 03:40 PM   #149 
                             - So you don't think the government has any obligation to keep  JamesA1102   Nov-23-10 04:46 PM   #150 
                                - i do  reggie the dog   Nov-23-10 04:51 PM   #151 
                                   - Israel is a very small country  JamesA1102   Nov-23-10 05:10 PM   #152 
                                      - what does size have to do with it?  reggie the dog   Nov-23-10 05:29 PM   #155 
                                         - Size has everything to do with it.  JamesA1102   Nov-23-10 07:07 PM   #158 
  - or you are free to read the OP  RetroLounge   Nov-21-10 07:33 PM   #77 
     - But that is not a constitutional right nt  JamesA1102   Nov-21-10 07:35 PM   #79 
        - And no one has said that it is. Your point now?  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 07:45 PM   #83 
           - Since you don't have a right to fly on an airplane  JamesA1102   Nov-21-10 08:21 PM   #87 
           - This is *government* funded security, not private airlines' security.  Lars39   Nov-21-10 08:31 PM   #89 
           - And they have the right to use private security  JamesA1102   Nov-21-10 09:37 PM   #97 
              - private security has to follow the same rules as the TSA  TorchTheWitch   Nov-23-10 05:26 PM   #154 
           - You do understand that TSA is government and not a branch of...  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-21-10 08:42 PM   #92 
              - And you understand you don't have a right  JamesA1102   Nov-21-10 09:38 PM   #98 
                 - You don't have a right to travel on the train or a bus either.  LisaL   Nov-21-10 09:40 PM   #99 
                    - Exactly.  JamesA1102   Nov-21-10 09:45 PM   #100 
                       - We don't have "the right" to cross the street either if you carry out your train of logic.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-22-10 06:42 AM   #108 
                          - If you do so in a vehicle owned by someone else, no.  JamesA1102   Nov-22-10 04:23 PM   #131 
                             - It is troublesome and there is truth in what you say.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-22-10 05:07 PM   #133 
           - His point is to agree with anything the gov't does  RetroLounge   Nov-22-10 05:18 PM   #136 
              - Patterns of Posting????  JamesA1102   Nov-22-10 05:34 PM   #137 
                 - Give It A Rest Dude  Binka   Nov-22-10 06:04 PM   #138 
                    - Another person stalking me  JamesA1102   Nov-22-10 09:52 PM   #139 
                    - Stalking You?  Binka   Nov-22-10 11:20 PM   #140 
                       - Offensive???  JamesA1102   Nov-23-10 08:47 AM   #146 
                          - Creepy?  RetroLounge   Nov-23-10 06:31 PM   #157 
                    - Yeah, the outrage is either hilarious or pathetic.  RetroLounge   Nov-23-10 06:30 PM   #156 
                       - Hilariously Pathetic?  Binka   Nov-23-10 07:11 PM   #159 
  - K & R and kudos. nm  laughingliberal   Nov-21-10 07:25 PM   #73 
  - Good luck and good for you.  Matariki   Nov-21-10 07:42 PM   #80 
  - Bravo for you and non-violent protest for human dignity. K&R  Tierra_y_Libertad   Nov-21-10 07:50 PM   #85 
  - Good luck and thank you for taking a principled stand. nt  Ilsa   Nov-21-10 09:58 PM   #101 
  - Talk to a lawyer in advance. Phrase all of your question hypothetically.  struggle4progress   Nov-21-10 11:54 PM   #102 
  - I support you 100%  bluetrain   Nov-22-10 12:13 AM   #103 
  - You will be refused access to the boarding area  Gormy Cuss   Nov-22-10 11:04 AM   #111 
  - or escorted out of the airport  HipChick   Nov-22-10 05:16 PM   #135 
  - k&r  Poboy   Nov-22-10 11:31 AM   #116 
  - Someone once compared fighting for democracy  TfG   Nov-22-10 11:34 AM   #118 
  - Using a phone is a choice, don't you know?  LisaL   Nov-22-10 11:48 AM   #120 
     - LOL  TfG   Nov-22-10 11:53 AM   #121 
  - I have no reason for international air travel till next summer at the earliest, but  Lydia Leftcoast   Nov-22-10 12:00 PM   #122 
  - don't be ashamed of having been raped  reggie the dog   Nov-22-10 02:12 PM   #125 
  - Oh I'm not ashamed. Just can't picture myself blurting it out to a stranger.  Pacifist Patriot   Nov-22-10 03:07 PM   #127 
  - recommended  TexasObserver   Nov-22-10 03:14 PM   #129 

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