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| 44. REPORT TO ACLU you TSA EXPERIENCE...NAKED SCAN/BODY SEARCH, HERE: |
| -I am neither rich nor famous. (Warning: Bypass if you are sick of TSA threads) |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 05:14 PM |
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I hope you never have to use this plan. You are a brave soul. Kudos! |
Little Star |
Nov-21-10 05:18 PM |
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Sigh, good luck and I hope you will not be harassed. |
Alameda |
Nov-21-10 05:19 PM |
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Sigh, good luck and I hope you will not be harassed. |
Alameda |
Nov-21-10 05:19 PM |
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Sigh, good luck and I hope you will not be harassed. |
Alameda |
Nov-21-10 05:19 PM |
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Realize Mr. Pistole started to prepare the dial down |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-21-10 05:24 PM |
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Awesome! I'm all in favor of the powers that be seeing reason before I fly again. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 05:26 PM |
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I can see keeping one of these things to be used with |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-21-10 05:28 PM |
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He didn't say "dial down." |
LisaL |
Nov-21-10 05:53 PM |
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Read tea leaves |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-21-10 05:59 PM |
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One can only hope, but |
LisaL |
Nov-21-10 06:03 PM |
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You forgot the chemical sniffers |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-21-10 06:05 PM |
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I don't think anyone was objecting to those? |
LisaL |
Nov-21-10 06:07 PM |
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They are gone because they were all but effective |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-21-10 06:17 PM |
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Bring a witness |
notesdev |
Nov-21-10 05:25 PM |
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You could be making a very expensive mistake |
taught_me_patience |
Nov-21-10 05:28 PM |
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Meaningless? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-21-10 05:29 PM |
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It will accomplish nothing. Therefore it is meaningless. n/t |
taught_me_patience |
Nov-21-10 05:31 PM |
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Accomplish nothing? Perhaps. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 05:33 PM |
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Yeah, it will do nothing |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-21-10 05:40 PM |
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Rosa Parks was meaningless? |
CreekDog |
Nov-21-10 05:52 PM |
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Rosa Parks and a plan, srategy, and organization behind her. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-21-10 06:22 PM |
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so that's what made her meaningful? backing? some random person shouldn't have done what she did? |
CreekDog |
Nov-21-10 06:38 PM |
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Many random people did do what she did many times before. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-21-10 06:43 PM |
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actually i'm concerned about one of the machines they use that I can't opt out of |
CreekDog |
Nov-21-10 06:48 PM |
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I'm surprised you think you could get away with this. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 06:49 PM |
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I know. She always said she had no thoughts of starting a movement. Her feet were tired. |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 06:51 PM |
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I'm not surprised you believe the naive fairy tail version of what happened. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-21-10 07:03 PM |
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You've bought the mythology. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-21-10 06:57 PM |
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The Mythology? |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 07:02 PM |
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Rosa Parks attending workshops at the Highlander Folk School, |
Radical Activist |
Nov-21-10 07:04 PM |
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You really don't get it do you? |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 07:08 PM |
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You're not getting the point. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-21-10 07:15 PM |
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Because they learned from the "meaningless" acts of those people before them. nt |
Hissyspit |
Nov-22-10 03:52 AM |
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I'm gonna take her word for it |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 07:05 PM |
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She was secretary of the local NAACP, |
Radical Activist |
Nov-21-10 07:11 PM |
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Her own words carry more credibility with me than yours or some |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 07:19 PM |
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I've heard the claims on both sides and as I wasn't present at the time... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 07:21 PM |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 07:23 PM |
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It's up to you |
Radical Activist |
Nov-21-10 07:29 PM |
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You forgot a few other details |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-21-10 08:32 PM |
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it really is unbelievable that |
ima_sinnic |
Nov-22-10 01:22 PM |
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Rosa Parks knew of those people. |
Hissyspit |
Nov-22-10 03:50 AM |
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Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 06:49 PM |
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counseled by the activist that doing something is meaningless |
CreekDog |
Nov-21-10 06:50 PM |
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No. That organization is necessary. |
Radical Activist |
Nov-21-10 06:52 PM |
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ok |
CreekDog |
Nov-21-10 07:00 PM |
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Yeah. Looks like we're whipped. |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 07:07 PM |
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It's time to give up on the "me generation" libertarian form of activism |
Radical Activist |
Nov-21-10 07:16 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Nov-21-10 07:22 PM |
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Yeah, might as well give up. |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 08:40 PM |
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Yes I absolutely agree. Too bad your form of "activism" is organizing inside the Democratic Party |
readmoreoften |
Nov-22-10 03:11 AM |
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Just because I don't |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 10:38 AM |
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then lead |
reggie the dog |
Nov-22-10 02:35 PM |
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Up is down. nt |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 06:54 PM |
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Rosa Parks did NOT have a plan, strategy, OR organization behind her |
ima_sinnic |
Nov-22-10 02:48 AM |
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When you're ready |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 10:54 AM |
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You come off as really condescending. |
de novo |
Nov-22-10 11:11 AM |
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So does all the |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:20 AM |
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The OP doesn't mention Obama. |
de novo |
Nov-22-10 11:24 AM |
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So? |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:29 AM |
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I commented on your condescending tone, |
de novo |
Nov-22-10 11:33 AM |
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I'm aware, and |
Radical Activist |
Nov-22-10 11:47 AM |
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what EXACTLY is your point? |
ima_sinnic |
Nov-22-10 01:29 PM |
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You are not familiar with the success already of some who did |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-21-10 06:08 PM |
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+1000. nt |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 08:27 PM |
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I've never really considered advocating for constitutional rights to be meaningless. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 05:32 PM |
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Meaningless, like the dead civil rights protesters, like the Viet Nam protesters? |
LiberalArkie |
Nov-21-10 05:47 PM |
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A different breed we were in those days. |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 06:57 PM |
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Name removed |
Nov-21-10 05:55 PM |
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What could be more expensive than the loss of rights? |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-21-10 06:01 PM |
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None so blind as those... |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 06:59 PM |
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You obviously did not read her post |
Caretha |
Nov-21-10 06:33 PM |
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Maybe the OP would try it in DC and not make it home to the family |
taught_me_patience |
Nov-21-10 09:18 PM |
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You should take a course in civics and history. |
Matariki |
Nov-21-10 07:44 PM |
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I applaud your courage to take a principled stand.... despite |
hlthe2b |
Nov-21-10 05:28 PM |
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I sincerely wish you the best! I am flying Wednesday |
onecent |
Nov-21-10 05:39 PM |
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I believe you are correct |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-21-10 05:41 PM |
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More power to you. |
LisaL |
Nov-21-10 05:50 PM |
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I think it's cool |
bigwillq |
Nov-21-10 05:52 PM |
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Not entirely altruistic. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 05:55 PM |
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There cannot be enough discussion about the violations this |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-21-10 06:11 PM |
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Good luck! |
Odin2005 |
Nov-21-10 05:52 PM |
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Thank you for taking a stand and good luck. You are doing what |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-21-10 05:59 PM |
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Good luck, seriously. |
Laelth |
Nov-21-10 06:09 PM |
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That's really all I want to see. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 06:25 PM |
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Good advise. I like your idea. |
Left coast liberal |
Nov-21-10 06:33 PM |
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You ARE NOT a cop out! You have conflicting duties, to your son |
coalition_unwilling |
Nov-21-10 08:54 PM |
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i have to fly with my 3 year old |
reggie the dog |
Nov-22-10 03:22 PM |
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you may also have this problem getting OFF the plane |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-23-10 05:53 AM |
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i fly directly to chicago, |
reggie the dog |
Nov-23-10 07:10 AM |
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the rules apply to the whole nation |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-23-10 05:24 PM |
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Be sure to report what you see if it compromises your privacy to the ACLU |
KoKo |
Nov-21-10 06:47 PM |
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REPORT TO ACLU you TSA EXPERIENCE...NAKED SCAN/BODY SEARCH, HERE: |
KoKo |
Nov-21-10 06:48 PM |
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Not to fear, my attorney has already provided me with... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 06:51 PM |
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Godspeed and good wishes for you and your safety. nt |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 07:02 PM |
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Thank you. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 07:23 PM |
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... |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 07:26 PM |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 06:47 PM |
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Or you are free to take the train |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-21-10 07:22 PM |
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Yet another who fails to read in its entirety. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 07:26 PM |
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You're the one missing the point |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-21-10 07:34 PM |
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No, not really. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 07:44 PM |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 07:48 PM |
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Yes really |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-21-10 08:17 PM |
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I am ticketed on Delta. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 08:46 PM |
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Delta Airlines has to adhere to regulations |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-21-10 09:35 PM |
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how is there no constitutional right to take a plane? |
reggie the dog |
Nov-22-10 03:10 PM |
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I would agree we have a constitutional right to move freely about... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-22-10 05:02 PM |
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of course we have a right |
reggie the dog |
Nov-23-10 01:59 AM |
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Yes you can move freely |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-22-10 05:11 PM |
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like riding your own bike or |
reggie the dog |
Nov-23-10 02:02 AM |
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So you're saying the government has no right of regulation of airlines |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-23-10 08:41 AM |
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no right to invasive searches |
reggie the dog |
Nov-23-10 12:03 PM |
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X-raying your bag without probable cause |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-23-10 02:56 PM |
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i would prefer that they would just do away with all of the searches |
reggie the dog |
Nov-23-10 03:40 PM |
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So you don't think the government has any obligation to keep |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-23-10 04:46 PM |
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i do |
reggie the dog |
Nov-23-10 04:51 PM |
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Israel is a very small country |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-23-10 05:10 PM |
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what does size have to do with it? |
reggie the dog |
Nov-23-10 05:29 PM |
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Size has everything to do with it. |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-23-10 07:07 PM |
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or you are free to read the OP |
RetroLounge |
Nov-21-10 07:33 PM |
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But that is not a constitutional right nt |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-21-10 07:35 PM |
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And no one has said that it is. Your point now? |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 07:45 PM |
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Since you don't have a right to fly on an airplane |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-21-10 08:21 PM |
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This is *government* funded security, not private airlines' security. |
Lars39 |
Nov-21-10 08:31 PM |
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And they have the right to use private security |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-21-10 09:37 PM |
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private security has to follow the same rules as the TSA |
TorchTheWitch |
Nov-23-10 05:26 PM |
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You do understand that TSA is government and not a branch of... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-21-10 08:42 PM |
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And you understand you don't have a right |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-21-10 09:38 PM |
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You don't have a right to travel on the train or a bus either. |
LisaL |
Nov-21-10 09:40 PM |
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Exactly. |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-21-10 09:45 PM |
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We don't have "the right" to cross the street either if you carry out your train of logic. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-22-10 06:42 AM |
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If you do so in a vehicle owned by someone else, no. |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-22-10 04:23 PM |
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It is troublesome and there is truth in what you say. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-22-10 05:07 PM |
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His point is to agree with anything the gov't does |
RetroLounge |
Nov-22-10 05:18 PM |
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Patterns of Posting???? |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-22-10 05:34 PM |
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Give It A Rest Dude |
Binka |
Nov-22-10 06:04 PM |
#138 |
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Another person stalking me |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-22-10 09:52 PM |
#139 |
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Stalking You? |
Binka |
Nov-22-10 11:20 PM |
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Offensive??? |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-23-10 08:47 AM |
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Creepy? |
RetroLounge |
Nov-23-10 06:31 PM |
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Yeah, the outrage is either hilarious or pathetic. |
RetroLounge |
Nov-23-10 06:30 PM |
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Hilariously Pathetic? |
Binka |
Nov-23-10 07:11 PM |
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K & R and kudos. nm |
laughingliberal |
Nov-21-10 07:25 PM |
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Good luck and good for you. |
Matariki |
Nov-21-10 07:42 PM |
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Bravo for you and non-violent protest for human dignity. K&R |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Nov-21-10 07:50 PM |
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Good luck and thank you for taking a principled stand. nt |
Ilsa |
Nov-21-10 09:58 PM |
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Talk to a lawyer in advance. Phrase all of your question hypothetically. |
struggle4progress |
Nov-21-10 11:54 PM |
#102 |
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I support you 100% |
bluetrain |
Nov-22-10 12:13 AM |
#103 |
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You will be refused access to the boarding area |
Gormy Cuss |
Nov-22-10 11:04 AM |
#111 |
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or escorted out of the airport |
HipChick |
Nov-22-10 05:16 PM |
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k&r |
Poboy |
Nov-22-10 11:31 AM |
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Someone once compared fighting for democracy |
TfG |
Nov-22-10 11:34 AM |
#118 |
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Using a phone is a choice, don't you know? |
LisaL |
Nov-22-10 11:48 AM |
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LOL |
TfG |
Nov-22-10 11:53 AM |
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I have no reason for international air travel till next summer at the earliest, but |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Nov-22-10 12:00 PM |
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don't be ashamed of having been raped |
reggie the dog |
Nov-22-10 02:12 PM |
#125 |
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Oh I'm not ashamed. Just can't picture myself blurting it out to a stranger. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-22-10 03:07 PM |
#127 |
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recommended |
TexasObserver |
Nov-22-10 03:14 PM |
#129 |
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