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Fri Nov-19-10 05:48 PM
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| 73. I am back myself only just recently and find that I don't feel as at home here as I used to and with |
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you gone, grantcart, that fact will be the more so.
My problems have to do with how it appears that some people have decided how things should be for so many others. They may bear leftie labels and spout progressive patois, but the basic assumption, similar to that of the right wing, that one can determine absolutely "how things are" and therefore conclude absolutely "how they should be" is just another form of ends-justifies-the-means oppression to me, because they are assumptions that will hurt the powerless and, yet, they are justified by resistance to coercive power. We agree about the what. We disagree about the how.
Though I may be spending less time here myself, I'm going to miss you, grantcart. I'm going to miss how you always added something to either the factual base and/or the understanding of a topic. The DU will be less without you.
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grantcart |
Nov-19-10 08:15 AM |
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Aw, damn. |
babylonsister |
Nov-19-10 08:35 AM |
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Beautiful post. |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-19-10 08:42 AM |
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Ditto |
mzmolly |
Nov-19-10 08:04 PM |
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I'm lost |
merh |
Nov-20-10 10:38 AM |
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More of a choice for some. DU used to be considered a refuge |
mzmolly |
Nov-21-10 11:57 AM |
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I don't want DU to be the echo chamber that the righties |
merh |
Nov-21-10 01:33 PM |
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I want it to be what it said it was when I joined. |
mzmolly |
Nov-21-10 01:45 PM |
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From the responses in this thread, the support is here. |
merh |
Nov-21-10 08:12 PM |
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Grantcart I am following you out the door |
goclark |
Nov-25-10 07:11 AM |
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Somehow I missed that whole thread, which is a good thing, I don't neatly fit into any one label. GC |
jillan |
Nov-19-10 08:46 AM |
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You have always been one of DU's finest |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Nov-19-10 08:47 AM |
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I'm so sorry you feel this way. I will miss your insight. |
Tatiana |
Nov-19-10 08:50 AM |
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I respect you tremendously. Godspeed to you... |
OneGrassRoot |
Nov-19-10 08:52 AM |
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Thank you for your contributions. |
lpbk2713 |
Nov-19-10 08:52 AM |
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I found DU because I was desperate to connect with reason during the Bush years |
lunatica |
Nov-19-10 08:54 AM |
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I'm sorry Grantcart. |
lonestarnot |
Nov-19-10 09:03 AM |
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You will be missed. |
R. P. McMurphy |
Nov-19-10 09:12 AM |
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You will be missed here. |
azmouse |
Nov-19-10 09:13 AM |
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An absolutley fabulous post |
malaise |
Nov-19-10 09:16 AM |
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Consider taking a break and coming back in '12 |
jpgray |
Nov-19-10 09:16 AM |
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I think your post shows how the admins have misinterpreted the Member Survey |
Renew Deal |
Nov-19-10 09:26 AM |
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I agree. And... |
DevonRex |
Nov-19-10 11:16 AM |
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I think their market research analysis messed up the fundraiser as well. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-19-10 01:07 PM |
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You have a good point there. |
DevonRex |
Nov-19-10 01:49 PM |
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From what has been happening with the Deletions in this thread, I am now considering |
patrice |
Nov-20-10 02:40 PM |
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That is an excellent point and it's very true. |
Number23 |
Nov-19-10 03:16 PM |
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I disagree - you look at the people who've donated so far |
slay |
Nov-20-10 01:01 AM |
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agree w/your disagree... |
bliss_eternal |
Nov-21-10 12:57 AM |
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Using this thread as an example, of the few (VERY few) people who have the |
Number23 |
Nov-20-10 03:20 AM |
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Correct. DU could go the way of NPR, except that there won't be anyone there to save its ass at the |
patrice |
Nov-20-10 02:37 PM |
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I'm not. I am about Process, systemic processes, anything else is one degree or another of Facism. |
patrice |
Nov-20-10 02:43 PM |
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You'll be missed. Good luck to you. |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-19-10 09:37 AM |
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I don't think folks should look at criticism of the President as attacks.. |
kentuck |
Nov-19-10 10:19 AM |
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I don't, unless they actually are attacks. Lots of that going around |
MineralMan |
Nov-19-10 11:30 AM |
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I think there are many here who don't get the difference... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-19-10 02:17 PM |
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I believe you're right. It's a sad business, sometimes, reading |
MineralMan |
Nov-19-10 02:36 PM |
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The lust for power obfuscates the difference. |
patrice |
Nov-20-10 01:34 PM |
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I am confused by this post as the OP starts out |
walldude |
Nov-19-10 11:37 AM |
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the cognitive dissonance makes one's head spin! |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-19-10 02:28 PM |
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delete |
dave29 |
Nov-20-10 02:15 PM |
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Nov-19-10 03:32 PM |
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+1 |
proud2BlibKansan |
Nov-19-10 07:21 PM |
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That was my reaction, too. n/t |
muffin1 |
Nov-20-10 06:43 AM |
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The question is about the means to those ends. |
patrice |
Nov-20-10 01:53 PM |
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Re, my last sentence above: . . . but then maybe that's some people's intent, no matter what avatar |
patrice |
Nov-20-10 03:02 PM |
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kentuck, sweetheart, what is the percentage in doing things for folks who have a declared intent |
patrice |
Nov-20-10 02:50 PM |
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And he is holding their feet to the fire too; when people want something for nothing |
patrice |
Nov-20-10 05:01 PM |
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Thta's the line that will always be used |
Radical Activist |
Nov-20-10 08:20 PM |
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Thank you... |
Dystopian |
Nov-19-10 10:29 AM |
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My dear grantcart... |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Nov-19-10 10:36 AM |
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K & R |
Scurrilous |
Nov-19-10 10:38 AM |
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Thank you Grantcart. |
jaxx |
Nov-19-10 10:57 AM |
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Grant, |
DevonRex |
Nov-19-10 10:59 AM |
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K & R |
kentuck |
Nov-19-10 11:01 AM |
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I am sorry you feel the way. |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-19-10 11:05 AM |
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Oh shoot.. |
Peacetrain |
Nov-19-10 11:16 AM |
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Grantcart, you may be tired for now. |
Mimosa |
Nov-19-10 11:24 AM |
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Thanks for your excellent post, Grantcart. |
MineralMan |
Nov-19-10 11:28 AM |
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Thanks very much Grantcart nt |
flamingdem |
Nov-19-10 11:38 AM |
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K&R for so eloquently stating truth |
JuniperLea |
Nov-19-10 11:39 AM |
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Cheers to you, grantcart. See you on the flipside. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-19-10 11:43 AM |
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Sorry to see you go, Grantcart. You were always more light than heat. |
Plaid Adder |
Nov-19-10 11:57 AM |
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you'll be missed gc |
spanone |
Nov-19-10 11:59 AM |
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You will be sorely missed, GC. I find myself in much the same situation |
blondeatlast |
Nov-19-10 12:01 PM |
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Noooo |
psychmommy |
Nov-19-10 12:34 PM |
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Thank you Grantcart for being a ray of sanity here at DU.... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-19-10 12:35 PM |
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You have been a class act from your very first DU post. You leave |
Kahuna |
Nov-19-10 12:42 PM |
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Nov-19-10 01:00 PM |
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Never mind... |
JuniperLea |
Nov-19-10 01:08 PM |
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Speaking as someone who probably hasn't posted a kind word |
hay rick |
Nov-19-10 01:06 PM |
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Thank you, grantcart...you're intelligence, patience, and light have enriched me |
cry baby |
Nov-19-10 01:22 PM |
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Peace to you |
H2O Man |
Nov-19-10 01:26 PM |
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Nov-19-10 01:37 PM |
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Thank you, grantcart. |
Bobbie Jo |
Nov-19-10 01:42 PM |
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very sorry to see you go, friend. I certainly understand. |
bigtree |
Nov-19-10 01:57 PM |
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In turn, many of the new rules are great. |
Dr Fate |
Nov-19-10 01:57 PM |
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Good luck |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-19-10 02:09 PM |
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I'm happy the admins stepped in when they did. Won't miss being accused |
EFerrari |
Nov-19-10 02:12 PM |
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+1 |
slay |
Nov-20-10 12:55 AM |
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+1,000. Issues, not personalities, please! |
inna |
Nov-20-10 01:17 AM |
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I am not the only one who will miss your well-reasoned, |
yellerpup |
Nov-19-10 02:24 PM |
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Well I don't buy the "engage and challenge people that you respect" thing |
hfojvt |
Nov-19-10 02:27 PM |
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You will be missed but you are over-reacting |
LiberalLovinLug |
Nov-19-10 02:32 PM |
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Good post. It's what I wanted to say to grantcart. You did it well. |
immoderate |
Nov-19-10 03:27 PM |
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Wish you wouldn't leave |
supernova |
Nov-19-10 02:33 PM |
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Sorry to see you go, keep up the good work, catch you later somewhere perhaps. |
uppityperson |
Nov-19-10 02:47 PM |
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Don't go! Please! |
byronius |
Nov-19-10 03:10 PM |
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You are one of the very best, grantcart. |
Whisp |
Nov-19-10 03:23 PM |
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But why exactly are you leaving? |
leftstreet |
Nov-19-10 03:25 PM |
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But, you will never really be gone from DU. |
Major Hogwash |
Nov-19-10 03:27 PM |
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Nov-19-10 03:30 PM |
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Good luck |
AndrewP |
Nov-19-10 03:42 PM |
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I hope you rethink this and continue to stay onboard..you're one of the |
TK421 |
Nov-19-10 03:46 PM |
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sad to see your intelligent and reasonable voice leave |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Nov-19-10 03:55 PM |
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wow |
Kali |
Nov-19-10 04:06 PM |
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Thank you! |
DemReadingDU |
Nov-19-10 04:11 PM |
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I am back myself only just recently and find that I don't feel as at home here as I used to and with |
patrice |
Nov-19-10 05:48 PM |
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Well said > is just another form of ends-justifies-the-means oppression |
lunasun |
Nov-19-10 10:50 PM |
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i really wish you would stay |
mrs_p |
Nov-19-10 05:57 PM |
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Best of luck. |
HuckleB |
Nov-19-10 05:58 PM |
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Wish you well |
BumRushDaShow |
Nov-19-10 06:42 PM |
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I've appreciated your contribution here |
Time for change |
Nov-19-10 07:11 PM |
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Thank you |
MrScorpio |
Nov-19-10 07:17 PM |
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That was a great post. And so full of heart. |
kayakjohnny |
Nov-19-10 07:24 PM |
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Peace GC... Peace... |
WillyT |
Nov-19-10 07:26 PM |
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Aww, don't go forever |
blogslut |
Nov-19-10 07:44 PM |
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May you have a fair wind at your back and the road well-lit before you. (nt) |
scarletwoman |
Nov-19-10 07:54 PM |
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I understand how you feel GC. I wish you'd reconsider because I feel if those of us |
mzmolly |
Nov-19-10 08:03 PM |
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This is heartbreaking, GrantCart. |
Kind of Blue |
Nov-19-10 08:30 PM |
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Even though I am finding myself more and more in the third camp |
XemaSab |
Nov-19-10 08:32 PM |
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Sorry to see you go, Grantcart. I've always liked your posts. |
sufrommich |
Nov-19-10 08:34 PM |
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Thanks for the GBCW, grantcart! |
bluedigger |
Nov-19-10 09:13 PM |
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Nov-19-10 10:06 PM |
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Only if we add one for complete and utter morons as well |
Egnever |
Nov-19-10 10:16 PM |
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It really makes me sad to read your post. |
MH1 |
Nov-19-10 10:17 PM |
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If you've found a new posting home, send me a PM |
OmahaBlueDog |
Nov-19-10 10:31 PM |
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And with that post i think it is time to end taking this place seriously |
Egnever |
Nov-19-10 10:32 PM |
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Aloha 'Oe Grantcart, I will miss your presence here very much. |
mahina |
Nov-19-10 10:35 PM |
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You will be missed...... |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-19-10 10:42 PM |
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Good luck out there! |
moondust |
Nov-19-10 11:05 PM |
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Nov-19-10 11:06 PM |
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I remember a time when I felt Hillary Clinton was being treated |
juajen |
Nov-19-10 11:17 PM |
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I will miss you too grantcart |
sonias |
Nov-19-10 11:26 PM |
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Beautiful, grantcart... |
DeepModem Mom |
Nov-19-10 11:29 PM |
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" Mother was not a hyphenated word" what does that even mean?????? |
saracat |
Nov-19-10 11:35 PM |
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Here's a mother-fuckin' clue. |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-20-10 09:26 AM |
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"Mother" was NEVER a hyphenated word, even in that sense, but |
saracat |
Nov-20-10 10:10 AM |
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What's 'persona'? Is that a typo? n/t |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-20-10 02:47 PM |
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Zappa didn't put out an album called "Freaks and Motherfuckers" in 1970. |
RandomKoolzip |
Nov-20-10 03:29 PM |
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Wow.... if you're leaving, I don't see much hope for DU |
WildEyedLiberal |
Nov-19-10 11:35 PM |
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Agreed |
Radical Activist |
Nov-20-10 08:21 PM |
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It appears from the nature of the reponses in this thread |
Subdivisions |
Nov-19-10 11:55 PM |
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With about 14 deletions on this thread |
JNelson6563 |
Nov-20-10 09:25 AM |
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There were no deletions when I posted. I'm not surprised it didn't hold up. n/t |
Subdivisions |
Nov-20-10 01:05 PM |
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Grantcart, I know you've made up your mind... |
hlthe2b |
Nov-20-10 12:34 AM |
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Sorry to see you go |
Chulanowa |
Nov-20-10 12:36 AM |
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I hope you reconsider and return to DU. |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-20-10 01:08 AM |
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I will miss your posts and your enlightening ideas. :( |
political_Dem |
Nov-20-10 01:13 AM |
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Will you leave a forwarding address? |
gateley |
Nov-20-10 01:21 AM |
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grantcart, I will second this motion. |
patrice |
Nov-20-10 02:35 PM |
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An odd thing to notice, perhaps, but... |
BobTheSubgenius |
Nov-20-10 01:27 AM |
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take care |
dave29 |
Nov-20-10 01:27 AM |
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Though not following your path just now |
DFW |
Nov-20-10 01:44 AM |
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I'll miss you and |
KT2000 |
Nov-20-10 02:19 AM |
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I hate this, but somehow it doesn't surprise me. ........ . ..... .... ..... ... ... .. ....., |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-20-10 02:31 AM |
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k&r. thank YOU, grantcart. |
nofurylike |
Nov-20-10 02:49 AM |
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grantcart, please take some time off, get some R&R until you |
BlueMTexpat |
Nov-20-10 02:50 AM |
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Deleted as dupe |
BlueMTexpat |
Nov-20-10 03:03 AM |
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Long may you run. |
SalmonChantedEvening |
Nov-20-10 05:31 AM |
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You can check out, but you may never leave. Don't you know the rules? |
BigBearJohn |
Nov-20-10 05:36 AM |
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Please don't leave |
voteearlyvoteoften |
Nov-20-10 06:11 AM |
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Walk away or stay and learn and and help us learn. |
jerseyjack |
Nov-20-10 07:09 AM |
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Nov-20-10 08:01 AM |
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Peace and long life. |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-20-10 08:19 AM |
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Damn |
ismnotwasm |
Nov-20-10 12:02 PM |
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Your dog and wife just showed up at my place. |
cliffordu |
Nov-20-10 01:04 PM |
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May the road rise to meet you. n/t |
myrna minx |
Nov-20-10 02:32 PM |
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What a depressing day |
Crystal Clarity |
Nov-20-10 02:51 PM |
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Another empty seat at the DU round table |
Omaha Steve |
Nov-20-10 08:26 PM |
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. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-20-10 11:27 PM |
#154 |
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I hope you're only going off the grid for a sabattical? |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Nov-21-10 12:59 AM |
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