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64. It seems to me that "they" want to replace Reid.
Harry's toast. No matter what he does, he's screwed.
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  -So, whose compromise is this anyway? Skinner  May-24-07 08:31 AM   #0 
  - To say I'm not happy with Reid/Pelosi would be the understatment of the year.  Beelzebud   May-24-07 08:32 AM   #1 
  - I'm still trying to figure out what they are thinking.  Silverbug   May-24-07 09:09 AM   #28 
     - Because Dem power elite in DC influence political decisions more than the people  blm   May-24-07 09:48 AM   #50 
     - I think they may have been sandbagged by people who want to take over their jobs  kenny blankenship   May-24-07 07:32 PM   #139 
  - I'm confused too.  NC_Nurse   May-24-07 08:33 AM   #2 
  - It's as if a "plug was pulled" when after being so courageous with the first bill  KoKo01   May-24-07 08:43 AM   #7 
     - Who knows?  NC_Nurse   May-24-07 08:44 AM   #9 
     - No, they used it as a bargaining tool with Bush..  Virginia Dare   May-24-07 09:03 AM   #21 
     - That would have to be a VERY INFLUENTIAL VOICE to do that, wouldn't you say?  blm   May-24-07 09:49 AM   #52 
  - agreed. we need names.  Lerkfish   May-24-07 08:34 AM   #3 
  - Who do any of you THINK is influencing Dem lawmakers most with this advice?  blm   May-24-07 09:08 AM   #27 
     - Easy to figure out, actually  notsodumbhillbilly   May-24-07 09:57 AM   #57 
     - Yep - and the dominant political voice that would sway senate AND congress would be.....  blm   May-24-07 10:12 AM   #62 
        - Please just Spell it out blm....You talking about "Shadow Govt." or Clintons?  KoKo01   May-24-07 10:35 AM   #67 
           - The party elite have Dem lawmakers believing Bill's political skills are infallible.  blm   May-24-07 11:17 AM   #78 
              - How would they do this?  BurtWorm   May-24-07 11:46 AM   #84 
                 - They all use many of the same DC strategists and advisors and media has  blm   May-24-07 12:20 PM   #100 
                    - I do believe Rahm Emanuel is one of the Big Dog's pitbulls.  BurtWorm   May-24-07 12:30 PM   #103 
                       - What clued me is the way media never fails to mention that Clinton is the  blm   May-24-07 12:38 PM   #105 
     - Lemme guess...  Hell Hath No Fury   May-24-07 11:47 AM   #86 
        - One odd fact in all this, however, is Hillary's bizarre IWR do-over proposal  BurtWorm   May-24-07 12:57 PM   #109 
           - June 2006 she ADAMANTLY spoke against any timetable. The do-over vote had also been  blm   May-24-07 02:39 PM   #116 
  - I think they thought they could shame bush into signing the other one  SoCalDem   May-24-07 08:37 AM   #4 
  - Maybe we should call Reid and Pelosi right now - Congressional Switchboard -- (202) 224-3121  Swamp Rat   May-24-07 08:38 AM   #5 
  - We are very likely NOT to get Murtha or Feingold  Horse with no Name   May-24-07 08:53 AM   #14 
     - Nevertheless, We the People should DEMAND it. n/t  Swamp Rat   May-24-07 09:06 AM   #26 
  - The Democrats didn't come away with nothing..  Virginia Dare   May-24-07 08:39 AM   #6 
  - So now Pelosi can be seen as voting AGAINST the minimum wage increase?  Finnfan   May-24-07 08:52 AM   #12 
  - No, there will be two separate votes...n/t  Virginia Dare   May-24-07 09:00 AM   #17 
  - Frankly...  Hell Hath No Fury   May-24-07 11:37 AM   #83 
     - So you don't give a shit about funding for veterans..  Virginia Dare   May-24-07 12:01 PM   #91 
        - Yes.  Hell Hath No Fury   May-24-07 01:21 PM   #111 
        - Have the veterans bill be separate and make Bush veto the damn thing  Telly Savalas   May-24-07 05:46 PM   #132 
  - You're Right. It Doesn't Make Sense. But That's Why I Can't Help But Think That There's Gotta Be  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   May-24-07 08:43 AM   #8 
  - If they don't vote for it, is that a vote to not fund the war?  helderheid   May-24-07 08:49 AM   #10 
  - That might be interesting. Get a bill the president wants and defeat it? Can  wiggs   May-24-07 12:06 PM   #94 
  - It makes no sense  H2O Man   May-24-07 08:52 AM   #11 
  - please elaborate. nt  tomp   May-24-07 09:09 AM   #30 
     - If we believe that  H2O Man   May-24-07 09:17 AM   #38 
        - that's what i hoped you meant. and i agree. thanks. nt  tomp   May-24-07 09:22 AM   #40 
        - To your second scenario, I have to ask...  Opposite Reaction   May-24-07 09:48 AM   #51 
           - If you were  H2O Man   May-24-07 09:52 AM   #54 
              - Well,  Opposite Reaction   May-24-07 10:25 AM   #63 
                 - When I was young,  H2O Man   May-24-07 10:30 AM   #65 
                    - Thank you.  Opposite Reaction   May-24-07 10:47 AM   #73 
                    - lol's....can't help myself but that gave me a chuckle..."face in the tree."  KoKo01   May-24-07 10:50 AM   #74 
                    - "The face in the tree" -- actually, a very apt metaphor  Mark Twain Girl   May-24-07 11:47 AM   #87 
                       - yes....well said... we are finally discerning the face......n/t  KoKo01   May-24-07 12:50 PM   #106 
  - My thoughts are that Emmanuel et al concocted a "Gang of 14" type  Horse with no Name   May-24-07 08:52 AM   #13 
  - Look who spoke out FORCEFULLY against a timetable last June and it's likely they  blm   May-24-07 09:10 AM   #31 
  - wow, interesting hypothesis! nt  tomp   May-24-07 09:11 AM   #32 
  - yeah, makes about the most sense to me (so far)  Morgana LaFey   May-24-07 04:36 PM   #124 
  - and remember whose foreign policy Emmanuel and Hoyer are more aligned with  leftchick   May-24-07 10:35 AM   #66 
     - Lieberman. Too many Dems stayed closer to Bush on terrorism and Iraq strategy  blm   May-24-07 07:06 PM   #134 
  - What evidence do we have that the 'defunding' approach was working?  bigtree   May-24-07 08:57 AM   #15 
  - I think you're correct, it was not a very effective tool..  Virginia Dare   May-24-07 09:01 AM   #20 
  - It's not a question of "Moving Bush". That was never going to happen.  Finnfan   May-24-07 09:13 AM   #34 
  - Because that's how Congress stops wars. They take away the money.  sfexpat2000   May-24-07 09:43 AM   #47 
     - Congress can vote for timetables for withdrawal with funding in place  bigtree   May-24-07 09:51 AM   #53 
        - True but only withdrawing FUNDS brings troops home.  sfexpat2000   May-24-07 09:54 AM   #56 
           - Setting a 'timetable' for withdrawal is all that's needed up front.  bigtree   May-24-07 10:39 AM   #70 
              - He would have to pull them. It's just math at that poiint.  sfexpat2000   May-24-07 11:00 AM   #76 
  - I am leaning towards the figureheads explanation  Az   May-24-07 08:57 AM   #16 
  - It's the classic good cop, bad cop scenario...n/t  Virginia Dare   May-24-07 09:04 AM   #22 
     - Yes...amazing that some of us who had so much hope for change didn't see  KoKo01   May-24-07 10:59 AM   #75 
  - They better get their sh*t together.  mmonk   May-24-07 09:00 AM   #18 
  - The problem for Reid and Pelosi and other leading Democrats  treestar   May-24-07 09:01 AM   #19 
  - so you're saying: trust the dem leadership a little longer  tomp   May-24-07 09:17 AM   #37 
     - Why would they do what they are doing, though?  treestar   May-24-07 10:03 AM   #58 
  - I Don't Trust Rahm and Steny and I Don't Want Them Deciding Things  Demeter   May-24-07 09:04 AM   #23 
  - Yup. That pretty well sums it up for me. Well said, too. nt  Morgana LaFey   May-24-07 04:46 PM   #126 
  - He's been there for 3, count 'em, 3 years and he has more influence  RUMMYisFROSTED   May-24-07 07:22 PM   #137 
  - Those two should get the axe  knight_of_the_star   May-24-07 11:24 PM   #144 
  - Time to purge the DLC Bush enablers.  Odin2005   May-24-07 09:05 AM   #24 
  - Bill Hicks bit puts it in context for me  deutsey   May-24-07 09:06 AM   #25 
  - I think you got THAT absolutely right.  hippiechick   May-24-07 09:32 AM   #45 
  - Hicks was a prophet.  Cults4Bush   May-24-07 10:05 AM   #59 
     - lol... thank you very much for my first chuckle all week.  Shipwack   May-24-07 07:30 PM   #138 
  - This could very well be from the freshman Democrats  underpants   May-24-07 09:09 AM   #29 
  - Not to be paranoid, but remember bu$h* can wiretap anyone anytime at will.  spanone   May-24-07 09:11 AM   #33 
  - There are things in the background we don't know about. For  rasputin1952   May-24-07 09:13 AM   #35 
  - Oh, please. Our folks can't play checkers, let alone chess.  Morgana LaFey   May-24-07 04:49 PM   #127 
     - It is the way politics have to make deals to get  rasputin1952   May-24-07 05:33 PM   #131 
  - It's the "leaders" providing the liberal Democrats a CYA vote.  Tierra_y_Libertad   May-24-07 09:16 AM   #36 
  - I'm not sure how much influence Pelosi has, considering  Freddie Stubbs   May-24-07 09:18 AM   #39 
  - I haven't read the replies yet not wanting to be influenced by them.  snappyturtle   May-24-07 09:26 AM   #41 
  - interesting.....perhaps it was what you say.....  KoKo01   May-24-07 12:55 PM   #107 
  - "It makes no sense"  welshTerrier2   May-24-07 09:28 AM   #42 
  - They have both let us down n/t  sheerjoy   May-24-07 09:28 AM   #43 
  - Orwellian doublespeak: "We are voting for it but we're not"  Jersey Devil   May-24-07 09:31 AM   #44 
  - This may help clarify what is going on...  Blue_Roses   May-24-07 09:33 AM   #46 
  - Skinner--have you read the bill or "bills"?  Blue_Roses   May-24-07 09:47 AM   #48 
  - Thank you for your reasonable response Blue_Roses..  Virginia Dare   May-24-07 12:04 PM   #92 
  - Yeah, I noticed that last night  Blue_Roses   May-24-07 02:55 PM   #117 
  - One many civilians and military will die in those four months?  madfloridian   May-24-07 12:08 PM   #97 
  - I can't answer that.  Blue_Roses   May-24-07 03:01 PM   #118 
  - Far too many, but not much fewer than would have otherwise.  Bucky   May-24-07 04:50 PM   #128 
     - well said.  Blue_Roses   May-24-07 07:21 PM   #136 
  - Do you have a link to the full text of the bill?  madfloridian   May-24-07 12:20 PM   #99 
     - here ya go...  Blue_Roses   May-24-07 03:05 PM   #120 
  - Somebody somewhere seems to think this helps for 2008.  sfexpat2000   May-24-07 09:47 AM   #49 
  - Can ex-presidents be fired?  blm   May-24-07 11:18 AM   #79 
     - The whole Nafta wing of this party needs to be expelled. n/t  sfexpat2000   May-24-07 11:55 AM   #88 
        - That would include Gore?...n/t  Virginia Dare   May-24-07 12:04 PM   #93 
           - Do we know his current position? I don't. n/t  sfexpat2000   May-24-07 12:06 PM   #96 
              - I'm not sure who you were referring to..  Virginia Dare   May-24-07 12:24 PM   #102 
  - This is what Big Money thinks it can steal from us...  Orsino   May-24-07 09:53 AM   #55 
  - Reed, Lieberman, etc. killed a short-term funding alternative  JPZenger   May-24-07 10:10 AM   #60 
  - READ DAVID SIROTA'S TAKE ON THE VOTE FOR THIS BILL  zippy890   May-24-07 10:11 AM   #61 
  - Interesting....Explains why David (R) Drier was up compaining that Dems had done Bill in Secret  KoKo01   May-24-07 10:43 AM   #71 
     - I happened to be listening to him me it's not a good thing  snappyturtle   May-24-07 01:15 PM   #110 
  - It seems to me that "they" want to replace Reid.  RevCheesehead   May-24-07 10:28 AM   #64 
  - Who woul be the contender? I can see Hoyer or Emmanuel for Pelosi being pushed by DLC  KoKo01   May-24-07 10:47 AM   #72 
     - Let me put on my tinfoil hat and say:  RevCheesehead   May-24-07 11:02 AM   #77 
  - Now we know why they blackballed Murtha.  RevCheesehead   May-24-07 10:36 AM   #68 
  - Makes no fucking sense. You got that right!  lonestarnot   May-24-07 10:38 AM   #69 
  - Thank you. It makes no sense.  Usrename   May-24-07 11:24 AM   #80 
  - Is our economy in worse shape than we the people realize?  Gregorian   May-24-07 11:26 AM   #81 
  - I think you make a GREAT POINT, Gregorian. Something's been fishy for decades.  blm   May-24-07 12:15 PM   #98 
     - I don't get along with evil.  Gregorian   May-24-07 01:48 PM   #113 
  - my hope  TheModernTerrorist   May-24-07 11:36 AM   #82 
  - Well, we'll find out soon enough.  Bornaginhooligan   May-24-07 11:46 AM   #85 
  - Go to the DLC the "short leash" article.  madfloridian   May-24-07 11:56 AM   #89 
  - Whose compromise? Satan. (nm)  lynyrd_skynyrd   May-24-07 11:57 AM   #90 
  - Whose compromise is it?  Hell Hath No Fury   May-24-07 12:06 PM   #95 
  - The DLC  lynyrd_skynyrd   May-24-07 12:20 PM   #101 
     - Absolutely!  notsodumbhillbilly   May-24-07 12:55 PM   #108 
  - It's the sickening kind of feeling I had when I knew they were dead  Hubert Flottz   May-24-07 12:34 PM   #104 
  - I'll never forget that day. I think DU nearly melted down.  myrna minx   May-24-07 01:22 PM   #112 
  - That was just one more of those....  Hell Hath No Fury   May-24-07 03:54 PM   #122 
  - i suspected problems when impeachment was off the table  orleans   May-24-07 01:50 PM   #114 
  - Reid has never evinced much in the way of leadership or control  depakid   May-24-07 02:14 PM   #115 
  - Keep in mind he is a Nevada Democrat  NobleCynic   May-24-07 03:02 PM   #119 
     - Which begs the question  depakid   May-24-07 03:22 PM   #121 
        - Because he masterminded the Jim Jeffords switch in 2001  NobleCynic   May-24-07 05:22 PM   #129 
  - Repeating mistakes  PATRICK   May-24-07 04:14 PM   #123 
  - This *apparent* weakness is the price Democrats pay for not marching in lockstep  Bucky   May-24-07 04:43 PM   #125 
  - the news on NPR is saying that a compromise was reached  rasputin1952   May-24-07 05:27 PM   #130 
  - "does not appear to be a bad compromise "  Warren Stupidity   May-24-07 08:58 PM   #142 
     - Probably about the same time you do...  rasputin1952   May-24-07 09:19 PM   #143 
  - K&R  ReadTomPaine   May-24-07 05:49 PM   #133 
  - did you read this?  FLDem5   May-24-07 07:10 PM   #135 
  - On Bernie Ward's program, Sen. Mike Gravel (Dem presidential candidate) accused Obama and Hillary.  Tatiana   May-24-07 07:54 PM   #140 
  - Smells like pervasive corruption to me.  Warren Stupidity   May-24-07 08:54 PM   #141 

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