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| -"President Obama, would you be okay with Sasha and Malia being Xrayed?" |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-16-10 06:24 PM |
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Nov-16-10 06:25 PM |
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Again, it just stuns me that this erosion of our civil liberties and privacy are taking place under |
Tatiana |
Nov-16-10 06:28 PM |
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An airplane is owned by a private company |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-16-10 11:47 PM |
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So you're okay with the pat downs and electronic strip searches? |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-17-10 08:47 AM |
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Any one that doesn't like it is free |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-17-10 11:32 AM |
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Yes indeed, just as even the wealthiest person is banned from sleeping on park benches |
Greyhound |
Nov-17-10 10:38 PM |
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Or they can take one of your buses |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-18-10 06:24 AM |
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Ben Franklin had a comment about your viewpoint. |
hobbit709 |
Nov-18-10 06:22 AM |
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It is the policy of the DHS. |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-17-10 08:54 AM |
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TSA isn't owned by the airlines so your comment is |
crikkett |
Nov-17-10 10:08 AM |
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But the airlines adhere to TSA safety guidelines |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-17-10 11:34 AM |
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True. But TSA is a private company subcontracted |
walldude |
Nov-17-10 03:08 PM |
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OK But what you are talking about is corruption |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-17-10 05:41 PM |
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That 'private' company is publicly chartered |
appal_jack |
Nov-17-10 03:02 PM |
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And you have every right to choose an alternate mode of transportation |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-17-10 05:44 PM |
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Sir, which train do I take to get to London from Denver? |
CanonRay |
Nov-19-10 08:49 AM |
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Denver to New York by train |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-19-10 01:26 PM |
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Great reply! Absolutely awesome! |
kayakjohnny |
Nov-18-10 06:47 PM |
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No just the opposite |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-18-10 10:49 PM |
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TSA = Federal Gov't |
Hydra |
Nov-17-10 03:15 PM |
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Those are hypothetical extremes |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-17-10 05:46 PM |
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Uh huh |
Hydra |
Nov-18-10 10:17 AM |
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So you're argument is that people should be allowed to carry guns |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-18-10 02:46 PM |
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I have no problem with metal detectors |
Hydra |
Nov-18-10 04:22 PM |
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So some invasions of privacy are OK with you |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-18-10 10:46 PM |
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And our tax dollars pay for the DHS and TSA. n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Nov-17-10 03:39 PM |
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So restaurants, being private enterprises, are free to exclude minorities? |
WinkyDink |
Nov-17-10 05:52 PM |
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False equivelency |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-17-10 07:56 PM |
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TSA is not private... |
ljm2002 |
Nov-17-10 06:44 PM |
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But the airlines adhere to TSA safety guidelines |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-17-10 07:57 PM |
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Ha ha this is fun... |
ljm2002 |
Nov-17-10 09:25 PM |
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And you have every right to choose an alternate mode of transportation |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-17-10 09:29 PM |
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I've seen you say that |
KittyLover |
Nov-17-10 10:35 PM |
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Please tell me where the constitution guarantees you the right |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-17-10 11:05 PM |
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Basic human rights |
KittyLover |
Nov-18-10 02:35 AM |
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But you can choose an alternate form of transportation |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-18-10 06:14 AM |
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Of course... |
ljm2002 |
Nov-18-10 01:00 AM |
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That is extremist rhetoric |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-18-10 06:16 AM |
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Debate? What debate? |
ljm2002 |
Nov-18-10 08:49 AM |
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You hear trains are next? |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-18-10 10:08 AM |
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and you telling people 20 times to take an alternate form of transportation doesn't shut down debate |
CreekDog |
Nov-19-10 01:27 AM |
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False equivelency nt |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-19-10 08:07 AM |
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Thanks for proving my point! |
CreekDog |
Nov-19-10 05:00 PM |
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You're a legend in your own mind nt |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-19-10 05:46 PM |
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I couldn't agree more |
TfG |
Nov-18-10 10:23 AM |
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if you are advocating a boycott of the airlines, then I agree |
northernlights |
Nov-18-10 06:05 AM |
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The airlines did not devise Homeland Security or the TSA. n/t |
Mimosa |
Nov-18-10 10:25 AM |
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But they have the right to use private security if they don't |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-19-10 01:24 PM |
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You missed the WHOLE point. But it appears that was your purpose. n/t |
DeSwiss |
Nov-18-10 06:56 PM |
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No you miss the point |
JamesA1102 |
Nov-19-10 01:26 PM |
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Nov-16-10 06:28 PM |
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If they haven't been, I'm sure they will be. |
leveymg |
Nov-16-10 06:30 PM |
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You're concerned with the dosage? |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-16-10 06:32 PM |
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Sadly, even here on DU, there are folks that are not concerned about their freedoms |
madinmaryland |
Nov-16-10 06:35 PM |
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Freedoms eroded? Your freedoms were lost when we didn't start impeachment on 9/12 |
leveymg |
Nov-16-10 06:47 PM |
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I was not really replying to you, but I do agree with you. Over the last ten |
madinmaryland |
Nov-16-10 08:04 PM |
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Death is undignified. I don't want to increase the chances of it happening. |
leveymg |
Nov-16-10 06:40 PM |
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it is also about radiation |
WannaJumpMyScooter |
Nov-16-10 06:45 PM |
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Then don't fly, and don't let your kids fly. They get a bigger dose of radiation at 35,000 ft. |
leveymg |
Nov-16-10 06:48 PM |
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well, I don't... and they are lying ahout |
WannaJumpMyScooter |
Nov-16-10 11:40 PM |
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That is a nice opinion but... |
rexcat |
Nov-17-10 03:58 PM |
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Actually studies have been done of radiation workers by the UN. |
Sirveri |
Nov-18-10 06:41 AM |
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Your dose of radiation for this equipment is based on what the manufacturer... |
rexcat |
Nov-18-10 09:53 AM |
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If the x-ray strength is too high the device can't work. |
Sirveri |
Nov-18-10 06:27 PM |
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Time will tell about the safety of the x-rays... |
rexcat |
Nov-18-10 09:07 PM |
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You fly often enough that you probably should opt out. |
Sirveri |
Nov-18-10 10:46 PM |
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There seems to be some questions as to what the dose of radiation... |
rexcat |
Nov-18-10 11:51 PM |
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UCSF clinics are telling their patients to avoid the scanners |
CreekDog |
Nov-19-10 01:34 AM |
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Cancer issues are only one of the considerations |
GiordanoBruno |
Nov-16-10 06:32 PM |
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It's not a strip search, and no one will touch your "junk" if you go through the damn scanner. |
leveymg |
Nov-16-10 06:51 PM |
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Nov-16-10 06:54 PM |
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Because people continue to try to blow up airplanes in the United States. |
leveymg |
Nov-16-10 06:57 PM |
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Better throw them in the junk heap today. |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-16-10 07:01 PM |
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Life is not without risk |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-16-10 07:03 PM |
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We ceased to be a nation of free people on 9/12 when we didn't demand accountability |
leveymg |
Nov-16-10 07:27 PM |
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*LMAO* |
Hydra |
Nov-17-10 03:21 PM |
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Do they teach either probabilities or risk analysis in school anymore? |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-17-10 04:43 PM |
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Hard to say |
Hydra |
Nov-18-10 10:11 AM |
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You've got a fabulous supply of duct tape and plastic sheeting in your garage, don't you? |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-17-10 04:43 PM |
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They are useless for what they are intended |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-17-10 11:38 PM |
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No one should be forced to make the choice between the damned scanner |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-16-10 07:24 PM |
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The Damn Scanner |
GiordanoBruno |
Nov-16-10 07:28 PM |
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I was pulled for a "random" check last week when I flew... |
Cid_B |
Nov-18-10 06:14 AM |
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Not true. |
bluetrain |
Nov-16-10 06:33 PM |
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What's not true? You don't think their dentist will Xray them? |
leveymg |
Nov-16-10 06:54 PM |
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No, I read two airlines advise their pilots NOT to be x-rayed |
704wipes |
Nov-17-10 06:08 PM |
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Children and older humans should not have to go through this indignity |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-16-10 06:31 PM |
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That picture is STUNNING. |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-16-10 06:35 PM |
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Ugh. |
Danger Mouse |
Nov-16-10 06:50 PM |
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None of us should have to go through this indignity. Period. nt |
obxhead |
Nov-16-10 07:00 PM |
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How does pating down a small child that age makes sense to anyone? |
redirish28 |
Nov-16-10 09:06 PM |
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If I read one more time that.... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-17-10 04:45 PM |
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It certainly was |
TfG |
Nov-18-10 10:42 AM |
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You really have a knack for clarity and common sense. Thanks. |
sally cat |
Nov-16-10 06:41 PM |
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Very legit question. |
redirish28 |
Nov-16-10 06:43 PM |
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Would he be ok with his wife getting groped? Or his daughters? n/t |
Catherina |
Nov-16-10 06:59 PM |
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Now, now, I'm sure there's nothing President Obama can do to stop this stuff. |
BlueIris |
Nov-16-10 06:59 PM |
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After they're installed in all the airports, with the gropings too, the policy will be fixed later. |
TransitJohn |
Nov-16-10 11:44 PM |
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I bet he'd say HELL,NO. n/t |
Mimosa |
Nov-16-10 11:46 PM |
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They won't have to worry about that, now will they? |
AngryOldDem |
Nov-16-10 11:54 PM |
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This shit keeps up and they'll be sitting around with |
LibDemAlways |
Nov-17-10 12:10 AM |
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This is beyond the pale. |
Lugnut |
Nov-17-10 01:05 AM |
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Didn't mind them swimming in the toxic waters known as the Gulf of Mexico. |
nc4bo |
Nov-17-10 08:55 AM |
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Could be a plot to increase support for Amtrak. nt |
woo me with science |
Nov-17-10 03:36 PM |
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No, it was first devised and the procedures now being used were |
tblue37 |
Nov-17-10 03:44 PM |
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Doesn't matter when they were developed. What matters is when they were implemented |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-17-10 05:49 PM |
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Good Question Bad Detail |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-17-10 04:41 PM |
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No |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-17-10 05:46 PM |
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R&D, studies and pilots begun under Bush administration. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-17-10 06:15 PM |
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Actually it did start with the Bush Admin |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-17-10 11:42 PM |
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Blaming Bush for stuff going wrong now allows more stuff to go wrong now. |
sally cat |
Nov-17-10 10:27 PM |
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Not necessarily. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-18-10 07:16 AM |
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he won't be the pres forever, and they will have to be xrayed |
crazyjoe |
Nov-17-10 06:04 PM |
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It's worse than being x-rayed, it's allowing strangers to grope |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-17-10 09:37 PM |
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maybe he'd prefer that they get groped. |
northernlights |
Nov-18-10 06:04 AM |
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The scanners should have been the LAST step |
ecstatic |
Nov-18-10 06:28 AM |
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Not to mention being groped by over-enthusiastic TSA agents. nt |
TBF |
Nov-18-10 06:47 AM |
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isn't it just special to have people here defending this breach of privacy |
fascisthunter |
Nov-18-10 10:35 AM |
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Obama let his daughter swim in Gulf oil saturated waters |
lovuian |
Nov-18-10 02:57 PM |
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Wonder if his kids ate the seafood there. |
avaistheone1 |
Nov-19-10 01:51 AM |
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Don't feed it. n/t |
truth2power |
Nov-18-10 10:52 PM |
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I find myself agreeing more with Stinky's posts than disagreeing with them. |
nc4bo |
Nov-19-10 08:26 AM |
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I hope you (and Stinky) will accept my apologies. I didn't mean for this to be a response to |
truth2power |
Nov-19-10 05:28 PM |
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