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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-10 08:15 AM
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118. right, and phthalates in baby pacifiers are just one itty-bitty exposure to toxic chemicals
Edited on Mon Nov-15-10 08:15 AM by KittyWampus
Who cares?

Except it isn't just those phthalates in the pacifier. They're in the sippy cups, toys that go in the mouth etc. There's a world full of toxic chemicals surrounding us now. Just trace amounts in each single thing.
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  -Mayor Gavin Newsom vetoes fast-food toy ban The Straight Story  Nov-14-10 04:43 PM   #0 
  - Newsom is not all that great.  ananda   Nov-14-10 04:44 PM   #1 
  - No, but in this case, he was completely and totally in the right.  TheWraith   Nov-14-10 06:28 PM   #35 
  - Why is that?  Bluebear   Nov-15-10 01:31 AM   #99 
  - Good for Newsom: let parents do their parenting.  Mimosa   Nov-14-10 04:46 PM   #2 
  - + 1  virgogal   Nov-14-10 04:48 PM   #5 
  - +2  The Northerner   Nov-14-10 08:52 PM   #60 
  - In for the hundred posts calling him a sellout.  name not needed   Nov-14-10 04:47 PM   #3 
  - Gavin Newsom's boyhood hero must be Pugsly Addams...  Dennis Donovan   Nov-14-10 04:47 PM   #4 
  - Good.  proteus_lives   Nov-14-10 04:50 PM   #6 
  - He's vetoed a lot of BOS proposed legislation  alp227   Nov-14-10 04:56 PM   #7 
  - naw, I just mentioned that because  The Straight Story   Nov-14-10 05:08 PM   #11 
  - Good for him  jancantor   Nov-14-10 04:58 PM   #8 
  - Good  Mz Pip   Nov-14-10 05:02 PM   #9 
  - I hope his veto is over-ridden...  Tikki   Nov-14-10 05:06 PM   #10 
  - I dunno, ask the parents who like freedom of choice. Choice, I really like that word (nt)  The Straight Story   Nov-14-10 05:09 PM   #12 
  - Still doesn't answer why a child needs a plastic toy with a meal..  Tikki   Nov-14-10 05:29 PM   #17 
  - it is called choice - don't like it, eat elsewhere. The more govt limits choice the less you have  The Straight Story   Nov-14-10 05:56 PM   #23 
  - Parents still have a choice to purchase the toy. And the meal.  Sirveri   Nov-15-10 01:32 AM   #101 
  - It serves the people who are willing to exchange this thing called "money" for what's being "sold".  Warren DeMontague   Nov-14-10 06:01 PM   #25 
  - So the plastic toy is being 'sold' and the meal comes free!!!  Tikki   Nov-14-10 06:13 PM   #29 
  - Maybe you didn't know, but if you don't like it, you don't have to buy it.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-14-10 06:15 PM   #30 
     - If your child must have a plastic toy with tonight's dinner...then why  Tikki   Nov-14-10 06:34 PM   #40 
        - You seem awfully hung up on the words "need" and "must".  Warren DeMontague   Nov-14-10 11:07 PM   #70 
           - + 1000 nt  woo me with science   Nov-14-10 11:31 PM   #75 
           - Actually it is those who advocate that business continue to assault our children...  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 12:25 AM   #83 
              - Not only that, but hyperbole kills.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 12:45 AM   #86 
                 - What analogy?  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 01:53 AM   #110 
                 - advertising = "assault".  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 02:10 AM   #114 
                    - Nope. That is not an analogy. Rather it is a straightforward characterization.  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 02:27 AM   #116 
                       - That's even worse.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 01:55 PM   #125 
                 - And yet you resort to same hyperbole to because you can't refute the fact that children  KittyWampus   Nov-15-10 08:17 AM   #119 
                    - No, I don't.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 01:54 PM   #124 
  - It is a fascinating system where we allow strangers, on a mass scale several times, to brainwash  Luminous Animal   Nov-14-10 07:06 PM   #48 
     - I'm sorry that you and yours are unable to think for yourselves and make your own decisions.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-14-10 11:05 PM   #69 
        - +70 trillion. n/t.  apocalypsehow   Nov-15-10 01:38 AM   #105 
  - No, children don't need a plastic toy with a meal...  TheManInTheMac   Nov-14-10 06:17 PM   #32 
     - +1  Jamastiene   Nov-14-10 11:33 PM   #76 
  - Choice is one of the most awesome words of all time.  proteus_lives   Nov-14-10 05:30 PM   #18 
  - I agree. But aren't you against marijuana legalization?  Warren DeMontague   Nov-14-10 06:04 PM   #27 
     - No, I'm for it.  proteus_lives   Nov-14-10 06:08 PM   #28 
        - Gotcha.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-14-10 06:16 PM   #31 
  - I dunno, ask the parents who would like peace of mind. Who don't always want to have to say no.  Luminous Animal   Nov-14-10 07:01 PM   #46 
     - My parents had a weapon against the "billion dollar industries".  proteus_lives   Nov-14-10 07:43 PM   #51 
     - There is more to parenting than saying no. I didn't allow my daughter any access to advertising  Luminous Animal   Nov-14-10 08:38 PM   #57 
        - Raise your kid as you see fit.  proteus_lives   Nov-14-10 09:51 PM   #65 
        - I heard "no" some.  Jamastiene   Nov-14-10 11:38 PM   #77 
     - Some of the best child/parent relationships I see  pipoman   Nov-14-10 08:49 PM   #59 
        - And that is a choice that the Mennonite community decided to promote the health of the community.  Luminous Animal   Nov-14-10 09:02 PM   #61 
           - There is a difference between  pipoman   Nov-14-10 09:42 PM   #63 
           - You decide.  proteus_lives   Nov-14-10 09:46 PM   #64 
              - You are right. I want my lead paint. Society has no right to take that away from me.  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 12:07 AM   #80 
                 - No. You should not be free to buy lead paint, or have an abortion, or get a happy meal.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 01:02 AM   #91 
                 - Yeah, exactly the same.  proteus_lives   Nov-15-10 01:33 AM   #103 
  - That is the parents decision...  Imajika   Nov-14-10 05:18 PM   #16 
  - Wow, let the damn consumer decide. Not the government.  KansasVoter   Nov-14-10 05:46 PM   #22 
  - Good God.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-14-10 06:00 PM   #24 
  - Well, let's check with the Department of Needs.  TheWraith   Nov-14-10 06:32 PM   #37 
  - Why don't you stay out of what is the business of parents, not the state.  Odin2005   Nov-14-10 06:33 PM   #39 
  - Because they can...and their parents buy the meal for them.  Duke Newcombe   Nov-14-10 06:34 PM   #41 
  - I can't begin to comprehend the level of arrogance required for someone to believe ...  11 Bravo   Nov-14-10 06:43 PM   #43 
  - Parents can decide that.  Dappleganger   Nov-15-10 11:24 AM   #123 
  - I'm with Newsome on this one n/t  rpannier   Nov-14-10 05:15 PM   #13 
  - Good, that bill is idiotic.  Odin2005   Nov-14-10 05:16 PM   #14 
  - At least someone has some sense  Renew Deal   Nov-14-10 05:17 PM   #15 
  - And communities have a right to say... quit luring our children to eat crap  Luminous Animal   Nov-14-10 07:11 PM   #49 
     - Last I looked, parents controlled the money, the car keys, & the TV  WolverineDG   Nov-14-10 07:58 PM   #54 
     - So does saying yes. It is remarkable how many people feel that saying no is a parents job  Luminous Animal   Nov-14-10 08:31 PM   #56 
        - So everyone else in society should have to adjust so that we can revolve around *YOU*?  WolverineDG   Nov-14-10 10:36 PM   #66 
           - Who decided that a parent's job is to be the bad guy? Why is it acceptable to put parents in the  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 12:14 AM   #81 
              - Sometimes the parent's responsibility to be the bad guy.  proteus_lives   Nov-15-10 01:36 AM   #104 
              - Yes. Sometimes. But I reject the assault of the advertising industry that pits children against..  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 01:49 AM   #109 
              - You did! Your children are *YOUR* responsibility  WolverineDG   Nov-15-10 08:54 AM   #120 
     - Jeeezuz  pipoman   Nov-14-10 09:04 PM   #62 
     - You have the choice and you chose not to eat there.  Renew Deal   Nov-14-10 11:04 PM   #68 
     - Guess San Francisco isn't going to be one of those communities, huh?  Warren DeMontague   Nov-14-10 11:09 PM   #72 
  - Good! n/t  bbinacan   Nov-14-10 05:42 PM   #19 
  - Obesity is not caused by a Happy Meal Toy, It's a huge and  WHEN CRABS ROAR   Nov-14-10 05:43 PM   #20 
  - +1......crap like this give liberals a bad name. Like wanting to ban candy at Halloween.  KansasVoter   Nov-14-10 05:45 PM   #21 
  - You took the words..  butterfly77   Nov-14-10 06:30 PM   #36 
  - Amen. It's nanny behavior run amok. nt  TheWraith   Nov-14-10 06:33 PM   #38 
  - Good for him. Another reason he's going places- because he understands the difference  Warren DeMontague   Nov-14-10 06:03 PM   #26 
  - As bad as fast-ffod is for kids, it's the PARENTS who take the kids there and who pay for the food  SoCalDem   Nov-14-10 06:21 PM   #33 
  - Good. Let them give out low calorie toys instead  TheCowsCameHome   Nov-14-10 06:22 PM   #34 
  - I do not think it is ok for fast food chains to bribe children..  and-justice-for-all   Nov-14-10 06:38 PM   #42 
  - He vetoed because he has higher aspirations. The intent behind the law is solid.  Luminous Animal   Nov-14-10 06:54 PM   #44 
  - advertising is child abuse ??  WolverineDG   Nov-14-10 08:01 PM   #55 
  - Yes. Advertisers employ psychologists to figure out how to hook children into being lifelong brand  Luminous Animal   Nov-14-10 08:47 PM   #58 
  - Do they not make TV sets with "OFF" buttons anymore  WolverineDG   Nov-14-10 10:38 PM   #67 
     - My kid grew up with almost no TV and homeschooled. She screamed at me when she was 14 because...  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 12:41 AM   #85 
        - So your 20 year old daughter is annoyed with you, and you blame society?  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 12:50 AM   #88 
        - Haha. That's funny. No. I do not blame society. Try again.  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 01:11 AM   #93 
           - Okay, you blame the flying monkeys?  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 01:17 AM   #95 
              - Where did I say I hid her from the world? Are you saying that the world is corporate advertising?  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 01:30 AM   #98 
                 - She's "annoyed" with you about something.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 01:33 AM   #102 
                    - Where did I say that I hid her from the world? That is your accusation not my assertion.  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 01:45 AM   #108 
                       - That's between you and her.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 02:13 AM   #115 
        - Oh, yes, you do think it's everyone else's job to raise your kid  WolverineDG   Nov-15-10 08:57 AM   #121 
  - Do realize how fucked up it is to support corporations assaulting children with sophisticated  KittyWampus   Nov-14-10 11:29 PM   #74 
     - I almost blew out a finger fast forwarding my DVR through commercials.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 12:51 AM   #89 
     - Arguing with control-freaks is like banging your head against the wall.  proteus_lives   Nov-15-10 01:39 AM   #106 
     - Indeed. I took care of my sister's children when my sister was in the hospital...  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 01:10 AM   #92 
     - Your TV has an "OFF" button  WolverineDG   Nov-15-10 11:19 AM   #122 
  - No, the intent behind the law is pathetic  jeff47   Nov-15-10 12:16 AM   #82 
  - not generally a fan of him but glad he vetoed this  ibegurpard   Nov-14-10 06:55 PM   #45 
  - Can we advertise cigarettes with cartoons now too?  FreeState   Nov-14-10 07:02 PM   #47 
  - They used cartoons at one time to sell cigarettes  NNN0LHI   Nov-14-10 07:44 PM   #52 
  - I'm glad for the Board  RandySF   Nov-14-10 07:33 PM   #50 
  - Let's hope the board doesn't override his veto  WolverineDG   Nov-14-10 07:50 PM   #53 
  - Good for Gavin!  krabigirl   Nov-14-10 11:07 PM   #71 
  - Advertising TO children is fucked up. And DU'ers supporting it have a problem.  KittyWampus   Nov-14-10 11:27 PM   #73 
  - It's a Happy Meal.  Democat   Nov-15-10 12:03 AM   #79 
     - It's a happy mind rape of the innocent meal, is what it is. HOW DARE YOU support the devastating  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 12:48 AM   #87 
        - You need to go back to the propaganda factory. Almost funny but not enough to be effective.  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 01:16 AM   #94 
        - Whereas you, I'm sure, are a barrel of laughs.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 01:23 AM   #96 
           - I thought is was about choice? And an individual's freedom? I'd never seen the kind of food that..  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 01:41 AM   #107 
              - "It" is about the idiocy of outlawing happy meals.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 02:08 AM   #112 
        - your attempt to use hyperbole demonstrates you have no argument to refute the FACT  KittyWampus   Nov-15-10 08:11 AM   #117 
           - Robble Robble Robble.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 01:56 PM   #126 
  - Good!  Democat   Nov-15-10 12:00 AM   #78 
  - Lots of people on this thread confuse the anecdotal with the societal.  Ron Green   Nov-15-10 12:29 AM   #84 
  - Oh, I'm sure with the proper re-education and consciousness raising designed to promote awareness  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 01:00 AM   #90 
     - The lead paint industry used similar propaganda to keep it's product on the market decades...  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 01:27 AM   #97 
     - Like I said. Abortion, Lead Paint, Happy Meals. They're all EXACTLY THE SAME.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 01:31 AM   #100 
        - My arguemnt is about advertising. The lead paint industry advertised to children.  Luminous Animal   Nov-15-10 01:59 AM   #111 
           - And that is fucked up.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 02:08 AM   #113 
     - right, and phthalates in baby pacifiers are just one itty-bitty exposure to toxic chemicals  KittyWampus   Nov-15-10 08:15 AM   #118 
        - If you want to argue with yourself, be my guest.  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 01:57 PM   #127 
  - Know what would be fun?  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 02:02 PM   #128 
     - Can we get the government to ban leaf blowers? Their noise ruins my weekends of watching  FSogol   Nov-15-10 02:22 PM   #129 
        - Back when I still drank, I lived in an apt. where someone would blast Mexican oom-pah music  Warren DeMontague   Nov-15-10 05:45 PM   #130 
 

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