pitohui
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Sun Nov-14-10 06:04 PM
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| 35. well then don't fly, i'm sick of the effin' hysteria |
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a bunch of babies screaming that a patdown is sexual assault have suddenly climbed out of the woodwork
what is the point of this? a patdown is NOT sexual assault, it is a safe, cheap, effective alternative to the ionizing radiation and the violation of privacy of the nude-o-scope being rolled out this month...millions of dollars are being spent on these devices which will ultimate result in some people getting cancer and everyone who flies having nude digital images stored "somewhere" out of their control where they can very easily make their way into pervert's photo albums or the internet
a patdown is perfectly safe, it's cheap, it doesn't cause cancer, it doesn't leave a digital record
so you want to pretend the fucking PATDOWN is sexual assault?
sorry, creating a nude digital image of my aging body to keep and drool on against my wishes and without paying me for the use of my image THAT'S sexual assault
i'm really fucking tired of the astro turf
if you think a patdown is invasive, wait until you experience cancer treatment, now THAT'S invasive...and if you think the sellers of the body scanner are going to give you one thin dime toward your chemo think again
how many lives are you willing to destroy to put $ in your pocket? (because there are too many of these stories, all of a sudden, it's obv. planned to come out in time with the roll out of the body scanners across america)
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| -TSA encounter at SAN [San Diego airpoirt] |
BadgerKid |
Nov-14-10 11:28 AM |
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UnUnrec...nt |
boston bean |
Nov-14-10 11:29 AM |
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UnUnrec? |
RC |
Nov-14-10 12:12 PM |
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not quite. try again. nt |
boston bean |
Nov-14-10 03:59 PM |
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Nov-14-10 04:05 PM |
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Renew Deal |
Nov-14-10 04:18 PM |
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Short version - guy went to airport looking for trouble and found it. |
hedgehog |
Nov-14-10 11:34 AM |
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That't how civil disobedience works. |
mudplanet |
Nov-14-10 11:50 AM |
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People who are comfortable being submissive usually don't find trouble. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-14-10 03:05 PM |
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Fantastic response TexasObserver. |
Matariki |
Nov-14-10 04:11 PM |
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So we should all just submit to government intrusion? |
Lucian |
Nov-14-10 06:14 PM |
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Nov-14-10 11:50 AM |
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Flying on an airplane is not a civil right. |
baldguy |
Nov-14-10 11:59 AM |
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Nor is riding in the front of the bus |
sgsmith |
Nov-14-10 12:34 PM |
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So, the author of the story in the OP was singled out because he's racially or ethnically oppressed? |
baldguy |
Nov-14-10 02:42 PM |
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Yes, there is evidence that TSA isn't random |
sgsmith |
Nov-14-10 02:56 PM |
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Can you back that assertion up with proof? |
cleanhippie |
Nov-15-10 10:35 AM |
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Oppression isn't confined to race or ethnicity |
gratuitous |
Nov-14-10 04:01 PM |
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The right to privacy is. |
Renew Deal |
Nov-14-10 04:23 PM |
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No, you have the right to turn around and get on a train, a bus, or drive on our wonderful |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-14-10 06:20 PM |
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How is the right to travel on a train, bus, drive your self |
erikdane |
Nov-14-10 06:27 PM |
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Actually, if you'd been paying attention, you'd realize that they do. |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-14-10 11:11 PM |
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You didn't answer the question |
Renew Deal |
Nov-15-10 09:51 AM |
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Either airport security is permissible, or it isn't. |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-15-10 02:00 PM |
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Flying in American airspace is also not a right. |
EFerrari |
Nov-14-10 06:48 PM |
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The freedom of movement is protected under Article Four of the Constitution. |
Greyhound |
Nov-14-10 09:57 PM |
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This sort of thing can be expanded past air travel |
daleo |
Nov-14-10 11:03 PM |
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They now DO have random checks in the street in some places. |
ThomCat |
Nov-15-10 12:26 AM |
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I would imagine |
B2G |
Nov-14-10 12:26 PM |
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If the videos are a fair representation of what happened |
ohheckyeah |
Nov-14-10 01:04 PM |
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If enough people find the new proceedures objectionable ... |
spin |
Nov-14-10 01:34 PM |
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And the is the idea our owner corporations are moving to. |
RC |
Nov-14-10 02:06 PM |
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Reminds me of "Welcome to the Machine" by Pink Floyd ... |
spin |
Nov-14-10 05:48 PM |
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Here you go. |
Matariki |
Nov-14-10 04:09 PM |
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Great site ... |
spin |
Nov-14-10 05:21 PM |
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I want for everyone to have to be screened the same way. |
Ilsa |
Nov-14-10 05:12 PM |
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That sounds fair to me. Just like Congress having the same medical care we have... |
spin |
Nov-14-10 05:24 PM |
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Wonder what Congress critters would think of getting the same "security" |
csziggy |
Nov-14-10 06:34 PM |
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That would be GREAT. |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-14-10 05:56 PM |
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because it just won't happen, all those people who promise to quit flying neveR do it |
pitohui |
Nov-14-10 06:06 PM |
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I remember a time when people used to stand up to the government ... |
spin |
Nov-14-10 06:31 PM |
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Boycottflying.com |
csziggy |
Nov-14-10 06:32 PM |
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Thanks for the link. (n/t) |
spin |
Nov-14-10 06:40 PM |
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signed up |
AsahinaKimi |
Nov-15-10 08:56 PM |
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We are closer to that than most people want to even consider |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-14-10 09:59 PM |
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Totally!!! (n/t) |
spin |
Nov-14-10 10:53 PM |
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"Internal Security" |
Xicano |
Nov-14-10 02:21 PM |
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"Homeland Security" was and is a name I dislike and distrust ... |
spin |
Nov-14-10 05:52 PM |
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I know |
TuxedoKat |
Nov-14-10 06:14 PM |
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Alright, it's official |
NuclearDem |
Nov-14-10 02:27 PM |
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Honestly, DU is infiltrated isn't it. Is it professional, or just immature attention seekers? |
Matariki |
Nov-14-10 04:08 PM |
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The populace is being trained and conditioned into passivity in the face of 'authority' |
Mimosa |
Nov-14-10 04:20 PM |
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This story is proof that we have let the terrorists win |
Renew Deal |
Nov-14-10 04:22 PM |
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i remeber in the 90s |
reggie the dog |
Nov-15-10 07:13 AM |
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You got that right. |
GoneOffShore |
Nov-15-10 09:10 PM |
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Big Sis and the TSA have gone crazy and it's a public relations disaster. |
sally cat |
Nov-14-10 05:36 PM |
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Meh. If they want the naked pictures of me that badly, they can have them. |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-14-10 05:55 PM |
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Maybe if you were a woman, you'd feel differently. |
I Have A Dream |
Nov-14-10 06:38 PM |
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Fair enough. |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-15-10 01:12 AM |
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They came first for the Communists ... |
spin |
Nov-14-10 06:39 PM |
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+1 nt |
I Have A Dream |
Nov-14-10 06:57 PM |
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+100 n/t |
Lugnut |
Nov-14-10 11:22 PM |
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Excuse me. I come from a family of German Jews. We had relatives in the camps. |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-15-10 01:10 AM |
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I see your point ... |
spin |
Nov-15-10 08:27 PM |
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I can't speak for anyone else, but the fear hasn't forced me to shut up. |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-16-10 12:29 AM |
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The new push on airport security may be driven by ... |
spin |
Nov-16-10 10:52 AM |
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No, I mean there has been a significant amount of noise and outrage about the TSA |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-16-10 01:17 PM |
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Lots of people used to like being a subject of royal power in the 1700s |
daleo |
Nov-14-10 11:09 PM |
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And lots of people in caveman times felt that Sabre Toothed Tigers were a bigger threat |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-15-10 01:12 AM |
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The American Revolution was about resistance to arbitrary state power |
daleo |
Nov-15-10 11:02 PM |
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You don't understand why there is security in airports? |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-16-10 12:30 AM |
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Security in airports does not necessarily require naked scanners |
daleo |
Nov-17-10 10:10 PM |
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well then don't fly, i'm sick of the effin' hysteria |
pitohui |
Nov-14-10 06:04 PM |
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A patdown is sexual assault. |
Lucian |
Nov-14-10 06:18 PM |
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And, for women, the breasts. nt |
tblue37 |
Nov-14-10 09:40 PM |
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Yep. |
Lucian |
Nov-14-10 10:07 PM |
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False dilemma. The choice should not be aggressive, invasive grope or |
tblue37 |
Nov-14-10 09:39 PM |
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^ TBlue nailed it: 'they want to force everyone to go through the scanners" |
Mimosa |
Nov-14-10 09:47 PM |
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Then you may salute the flag during your freedom handjob |
Sen. Walter Sobchak |
Nov-14-10 10:12 PM |
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Here is the problem |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-14-10 10:16 PM |
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The simple fact is that a terrorist ... |
spin |
Nov-14-10 11:05 PM |
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Trust me I know |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-14-10 11:21 PM |
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A bunch of people hiding in caves ... |
spin |
Nov-14-10 11:25 PM |
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Cancer treatment is voluntary |
daleo |
Nov-14-10 11:15 PM |
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What kind of man |
GiordanoBruno |
Nov-16-10 10:41 AM |
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I hope it goes to court and the victim sues. |
Lucian |
Nov-14-10 06:13 PM |
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If we let them get away with this ... |
spin |
Nov-14-10 07:01 PM |
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Mandatory body cavity searches are on the horizon if |
LibDemAlways |
Nov-14-10 11:21 PM |
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Damn right!!! (n/t) |
spin |
Nov-14-10 11:27 PM |
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Lots of folks on here with a pro TSA bias. |
GoneOffShore |
Nov-15-10 09:03 PM |
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This puts DUers in a quandary |
Dreamer Tatum |
Nov-16-10 01:22 PM |
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Thanks. You've got it right. |
GoneOffShore |
Nov-16-10 08:36 PM |
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