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23. If you're interested, you can go to the SLDN website
and read up on the history of Don't Ask Don't Tell.

It's a great website - you will learn a lot there.

http://www.sldn.org /

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  -Memo to President Obama: You Have 48 Days Left to End DADT "This Year" as Your Promised. Do It. David Zephyr  Nov-13-10 06:28 PM   #0 
  - We need a commission. nm  rhett o rick   Nov-13-10 06:32 PM   #1 
  - Whoaaaa there buddy this is serious bidness  MattBaggins   Nov-14-10 07:20 PM   #125 
  - don't hold your breath  davidinalameda   Nov-13-10 06:32 PM   #2 
  - Gee, why don't they just do that?  Capitalocracy   Nov-14-10 02:30 PM   #114 
  - I heard even Ed Rendell say Obama has to aim for the center now.  tblue   Nov-13-10 06:37 PM   #3 
  - Yesterday Rendell said the CFC didn't go far enough on SS and Medicare. I didn't agree with him...  laughingliberal   Nov-14-10 12:36 PM   #102 
  - Ending DADT is a centrist position now  Politicub   Nov-14-10 12:57 PM   #105 
  - K&R...n/t  Oceansaway   Nov-13-10 06:38 PM   #4 
  - Recommended.  H2O Man   Nov-13-10 06:41 PM   #5 
  - Chris may be posing as a Moderate Democrat but I don't buy it for one second.  sellitman   Nov-14-10 06:39 PM   #124 
  - I still think the repeal will squeak through in the Defense Auth Bill  ruggerson   Nov-13-10 06:42 PM   #6 
  - We will soon find out.  David Zephyr   Nov-14-10 02:16 AM   #82 
  - Why not pressure Congress? Pres. Obama is doing his part to pressure Congress and the military...  ClarkUSA   Nov-13-10 06:42 PM   #7 
  - Two words: executive order  derby378   Nov-13-10 06:43 PM   #9 
  - Why didn't Clinton "use" one to correct his fuck-up, then?  ClarkUSA   Nov-13-10 06:45 PM   #10 
  - Clinton discusses this  H2O Man   Nov-13-10 06:49 PM   #13 
  - What does it matter today?  de novo   Nov-13-10 07:52 PM   #53 
  - One word: bull.  pnwmom   Nov-14-10 06:07 PM   #123 
     - Two to six years to get something more permanent done versus constantly fighting against repeal in  AlabamaLibrul   Nov-14-10 09:09 PM   #131 
        - Only two if Obama isn't reelected. And one of the first things  pnwmom   Nov-14-10 09:31 PM   #135 
  - Presidents are supposed to lobby Congress for legislation they believe in  ruggerson   Nov-13-10 06:48 PM   #12 
  - I am sure if it were not for this President, DADT repeal would not be happening.  ClarkUSA   Nov-13-10 07:00 PM   #15 
  - So if it doesn't happen does he get the blame  dsc   Nov-13-10 07:01 PM   #18 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-13-10 07:07 PM   #22 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-14-10 07:58 AM   #92 
  - He certainly gets credit for laying the groundwork, which is more than any other president has done.  ClarkUSA   Nov-14-10 09:27 AM   #96 
  - If you're interested, you can go to the SLDN website  ruggerson   Nov-13-10 07:08 PM   #23 
  - You're already giving him credit for overturning DADT because he  ThomCat   Nov-14-10 05:15 AM   #83 
  - Exactly  terrya   Nov-14-10 07:56 AM   #91 
  - (Duplicate removed by author)  Tesha   Nov-13-10 07:00 PM   #16 
  - Nan Hunter, winner of GLBT National Bar's highest honor, agrees w/the WH approach.  ClarkUSA   Nov-13-10 07:01 PM   #19 
     - To utterly fail? (NT)  Tesha   Nov-13-10 07:33 PM   #40 
        - Yes, stick to your guns  dbmk   Nov-14-10 12:54 PM   #104 
           - So explain to me: How does the nineteen-dimensional chess play out so that...  Tesha   Nov-14-10 08:47 PM   #129 
              - I don't know. Didn't claim I did.  dbmk   Nov-15-10 11:41 AM   #139 
  - All Obama had to do was instruct *HIS* Justice Department to not appeal the recent decision.  Tesha   Nov-13-10 07:00 PM   #17 
  - See reply #19. I replied to you prior to your edit.  ClarkUSA   Nov-13-10 07:09 PM   #24 
  - More thinking through the Don't Ask Don't Tell appeal question  struggle4progress   Nov-13-10 07:19 PM   #33 
  - True.  Radical Activist   Nov-14-10 03:41 PM   #118 
  - Unrec...nt  SidDithers   Nov-13-10 06:43 PM   #8 
  - Unrec all you want; it won't change how people (including me) are coming to feel about Obama. (NT)  Tesha   Nov-13-10 07:02 PM   #20 
  - Rec...nt  Gold Metal Flake   Nov-13-10 07:16 PM   #31 
  - Rec'd in support of equality for all human beings  Bluenorthwest   Nov-13-10 07:53 PM   #55 
  - K & R !!!  WillyT   Nov-13-10 08:07 PM   #58 
  - Rec  Smashcut   Nov-14-10 01:05 PM   #106 
  - Rec. n/t  golddigger   Nov-14-10 05:54 PM   #122 
  - It is up to Barack Obama...  kentuck   Nov-13-10 06:46 PM   #11 
  - Executive orders are only valid to the extent that they are consistent with existing law.  BzaDem   Nov-13-10 06:56 PM   #14 
  - DADT was signed into law by Clinton after the conservatives beat him back on his attempt to end  struggle4progress   Nov-13-10 07:02 PM   #21 
  - It actually isn't questionable: it would be unambiguously illegal, and courts would stay the order  BzaDem   Nov-13-10 07:10 PM   #26 
  - Presidents can and do lobby for legislation they want passed  ruggerson   Nov-13-10 07:11 PM   #27 
  - Why in the world do you think he didn't? He got it through the House, and he got it through the  BzaDem   Nov-13-10 07:14 PM   #28 
  - It has been repeatedly reported that he hasn't done any lobbying  dsc   Nov-13-10 07:18 PM   #32 
  - Where? Provide quotes.  ClarkUSA   Nov-13-10 07:25 PM   #35 
     - Here you go:  ruggerson   Nov-13-10 07:28 PM   #37 
     - Do you think that everything that happens in the WH is reported?  ClarkUSA   Nov-13-10 07:35 PM   #42 
        - Can you provide us with reporting to the contrary?  ruggerson   Nov-13-10 07:42 PM   #48 
        - Why should I? It's clear that the possibility of DADT repeal is only b/c of Pres. Obama.  ClarkUSA   Nov-13-10 07:48 PM   #51 
           - translation  dsc   Nov-13-10 08:23 PM   #66 
              - Yawn.  ClarkUSA   Nov-13-10 08:27 PM   #67 
              - And there's the attitude of repealing DADT in the first place around here right there.  terrya   Nov-14-10 08:00 AM   #93 
              - Bingo!!  theHandpuppet   Nov-14-10 07:04 AM   #86 
        - OH GMAFB  Smashcut   Nov-14-10 01:07 PM   #107 
        - You asked for "quotes, the author provided them  walldude   Nov-14-10 01:19 PM   #110 
     - in the Advocate a publication I am sure you never read  dsc   Nov-13-10 07:30 PM   #38 
        - One article does not prove anything. Pres. Obama is responsible for DADT repeal being on the agenda  ClarkUSA   Nov-13-10 07:39 PM   #46 
        - no gays like me are why it is on the agenda  dsc   Nov-13-10 07:41 PM   #47 
           - Without Pres. Obama, DADT repeal would not be on the Congressional and military agenda.  ClarkUSA   Nov-13-10 07:50 PM   #52 
              - Bravo! Keep up the good work. n/t  Tx4obama   Nov-13-10 08:10 PM   #61 
              - without Obama  davidinalameda   Nov-13-10 09:35 PM   #81 
              - Please lay out these "efforts" in detail.  Smashcut   Nov-14-10 01:10 PM   #108 
                 - Hard to be on MTP when you're out of the country, he just got back to USA this evening. n/t  Tx4obama   Nov-14-10 07:57 PM   #126 
        - The White House DID issue a statement  Tx4obama   Nov-13-10 08:09 PM   #60 
           - issuing a statement  dsc   Nov-13-10 08:22 PM   #65 
              - So wait a minute. You claim Obama hasn't lobbied publicly. So when you are easily refuted  BzaDem   Nov-13-10 08:37 PM   #69 
                 - actually my claim and that of the article I supplied  dsc   Nov-13-10 08:52 PM   #75 
                    - "Nancy Pelosi deserves that credit, not him."  BzaDem   Nov-13-10 09:25 PM   #78 
  - But the facts don't line up with your assertion  ruggerson   Nov-13-10 07:26 PM   #36 
  - Obama's State of the Union address: Repealing 'Don't ask, don't tell' gets applause--from some  struggle4progress   Nov-13-10 07:14 PM   #29 
     - We're not talking about speeches  ruggerson   Nov-13-10 07:31 PM   #39 
  - several points  dsc   Nov-13-10 07:15 PM   #30 
  - Y'know, dsc, at several times in my life I have decamped to DC to walk the halls of Congress  struggle4progress   Nov-13-10 07:44 PM   #49 
     - the only reason DADT repeal has gotten as far as it has  ruggerson   Nov-13-10 07:47 PM   #50 
        - If that's actually going on, then the eventual outlook should be good  struggle4progress   Nov-13-10 07:54 PM   #56 
           - I think the eventual outcome IS good  ruggerson   Nov-13-10 08:11 PM   #62 
              - you are far more optimistic than I am  dsc   Nov-13-10 08:28 PM   #68 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Nov-13-10 07:21 PM   #34 
  - Vote GOP ... they'll over turn DADT, and DOMA, and advocate for ...  JoePhilly   Nov-13-10 07:10 PM   #25 
  - Get a new argument. That one is really old. n/t  TriMera   Nov-13-10 07:33 PM   #41 
  - It is not an argument, it is the truth. nt  JoePhilly   Nov-13-10 07:52 PM   #54 
  - That's one of their favorites, though!  muffin1   Nov-13-10 08:38 PM   #70 
  - Who cares about how old it is? We have known about Newton's laws of gravity for hundreds of years.  BzaDem   Nov-13-10 08:39 PM   #71 
  - You forgot to mention Palin and zillion dimensional chess. n/t  Catherina   Nov-13-10 07:36 PM   #43 
     - If I intended to mention those, I would not forget ...  JoePhilly   Nov-13-10 08:03 PM   #57 
        - So many fierce advocates and so little progress. Sorry Joe  Catherina   Nov-13-10 08:20 PM   #64 
           - Belittle people??????  JoePhilly   Nov-13-10 08:58 PM   #76 
              - See post 25. n/t  Catherina   Nov-13-10 09:24 PM   #77 
  - Recommended but please don't hold your breath n/t  Catherina   Nov-13-10 07:37 PM   #44 
  - Why would you bother to hope for him to do something  BlueIris   Nov-13-10 07:37 PM   #45 
  - Wrong. Obama has done tons of things he said he'd do. And many things for the LGBT community  Tx4obama   Nov-13-10 08:16 PM   #63 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-13-10 09:33 PM   #79 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-14-10 07:15 AM   #89 
     - You know what you can do with your bullshit lists.  Smashcut   Nov-14-10 01:12 PM   #109 
  - K&R  Jamastiene   Nov-13-10 08:08 PM   #59 
  - K&R  muffin1   Nov-13-10 08:40 PM   #72 
  - K and R (nt)  bigwillq   Nov-13-10 08:40 PM   #73 
  - K&R. It's time. It's past time. Action counts more than words.  Ignis   Nov-13-10 08:46 PM   #74 
  - Yes there are 48 days. You can count!  jberryhill   Nov-13-10 09:34 PM   #80 
  - We must look forward....n/t  BlueJac   Nov-14-10 06:53 AM   #84 
  - Promise? Well, you have to deal with the world as you find it  panzerfaust   Nov-14-10 07:04 AM   #85 
  - K&R  theHandpuppet   Nov-14-10 07:06 AM   #87 
  - Sunday morning 'kick'  muffin1   Nov-14-10 07:12 AM   #88 
  - You are welcome. It's "Promise Keeping Time" now.  David Zephyr   Nov-15-10 02:01 PM   #143 
  - Just another broken Obama empty promise.  The Uncola   Nov-14-10 07:52 AM   #90 
  - recommend  xchrom   Nov-14-10 08:03 AM   #94 
  - I don't believe that there is much Obama can do now...  Creative   Nov-14-10 08:38 AM   #95 
  - k&r  avaistheone1   Nov-14-10 10:57 AM   #97 
  - Amen. This is about civil rights. nt  ProgressIn2008   Nov-14-10 11:26 AM   #98 
  - He will not do it. We need a primary challenger.  grahamhgreen   Nov-14-10 12:04 PM   #99 
  - So the republicans can get the presidency back?  dbmk   Nov-14-10 12:48 PM   #103 
     - If he continues to enact Republican policies, he will lose to the real Republican anyway.  grahamhgreen   Nov-14-10 01:41 PM   #111 
        - CORRECT  Skittles   Nov-14-10 08:03 PM   #128 
  - Kick & Rec!  jannyk   Nov-14-10 12:09 PM   #100 
  - K & R nt  laughingliberal   Nov-14-10 12:33 PM   #101 
  - Memo to David Zephyr: Obama is NOT a dictator. This is a Constitutional Republic.  UrbScotty   Nov-14-10 02:14 PM   #112 
  - No one is looking for a dictator, a President that can get things done would do.  David Zephyr   Nov-15-10 01:58 PM   #141 
  - Well, considering the fact that Gitmo is still open  Capitalocracy   Nov-14-10 02:25 PM   #113 
  - Can someone please tell me how the hell....  bobburgster   Nov-14-10 03:02 PM   #115 
  - Why the promise, then?  Kurt_and_Hunter   Nov-14-10 03:34 PM   #117 
     - Not sure why, other then the heat of the campaign..  bobburgster   Nov-15-10 12:02 PM   #140 
  - I don't appreciate it when the "sarcasm" tag isn't used.  RUMMYisFROSTED   Nov-14-10 03:32 PM   #116 
  - DO IT!  laylah   Nov-14-10 04:10 PM   #119 
  - it would be the number #1 accomplishment of his presidency. nt  GSLevel9   Nov-14-10 04:21 PM   #120 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-14-10 05:42 PM   #121 
  - 47 Days...almost 46 left now.  Shining Jack   Nov-14-10 07:58 PM   #127 
  - Great graphic.  David Zephyr   Nov-15-10 02:03 PM   #144 
  - It's too late to unrec this but i would if I could.  Kaleva   Nov-14-10 09:03 PM   #130 
  - This is what President Obama actually said "I will end dont ask-dont tell" - link and video  FreeState   Nov-14-10 09:21 PM   #132 
     - "but offered no timetable or specifics for acting on that promise."  Kaleva   Nov-14-10 09:25 PM   #133 
     - Watch the video - he says THIS YEAR, sounds like a timeline to me n/t  FreeState   Nov-14-10 09:26 PM   #134 
        - The video is from Oct. of last year.  Kaleva   Nov-14-10 09:32 PM   #136 
        - At 15:40 into the video, President Obama says:  Kaleva   Nov-14-10 09:46 PM   #137 
     - Thanks, FreeState, but apparently there are those want to excuse failure.  David Zephyr   Nov-15-10 02:06 PM   #145 
  - Increasingly DADT repeal posts look like Log Cabin subterfuge  jonathan_seer   Nov-14-10 10:33 PM   #138 
  - 46 Days.  David Zephyr   Nov-15-10 01:59 PM   #142 
  - kick  Bluebear   Nov-16-10 03:31 AM   #146 
 

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