| 82. Laila Ali called. She has a pink tutu AND boxing gloves... |
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When she sees Moore, it won't be the tutu she'll be wearing... 
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dsc |
Nov-13-10 05:36 PM |
#0 |
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There is often a connection between insults and ideology |
jpgray |
Nov-13-10 05:38 PM |
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Case in point, my rec has disappeared into the aether |
jpgray |
Nov-13-10 05:38 PM |
#2 |
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Mine disappeared too. :( K&R |
LiberalLoner |
Nov-13-10 05:44 PM |
#3 |
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I rec'd |
uppityperson |
Nov-13-10 05:51 PM |
#8 |
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K & R |
Pirate Smile |
Nov-13-10 06:04 PM |
#21 |
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Here is one. K & R. |
chill_wind |
Nov-13-10 05:52 PM |
#10 |
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Did Michael Moore |
whathehell |
Nov-14-10 07:56 AM |
#98 |
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He made one about Obama. |
Qutzupalotl |
Nov-14-10 01:07 PM |
#150 |
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True.... |
whathehell |
Nov-14-10 04:39 PM |
#183 |
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Right on |
The Philosopher |
Nov-13-10 05:45 PM |
#4 |
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Not all want to be bigots--some see a lack of belligerence as equivocation and weakness |
jpgray |
Nov-13-10 05:49 PM |
#6 |
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Most insults originate from some stereotype. Many with |
sufrommich |
Nov-13-10 05:46 PM |
#5 |
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Its both |
FreeState |
Nov-13-10 05:52 PM |
#12 |
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because the biggest insult to a "man" is to equate him with a "girl". |
mzteris |
Nov-13-10 08:37 PM |
#59 |
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I agree. In fact I often think that the deeply homophobic types |
unpossibles |
Nov-14-10 11:47 AM |
#141 |
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Absolutely...and it's too bad |
whathehell |
Nov-14-10 07:49 AM |
#97 |
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that's what I thought too, that it was a slam at women being weak, not gays |
Hamlette |
Nov-14-10 09:56 AM |
#115 |
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This is the way that I took the remark when I heard it as well. |
DawgHouse |
Nov-14-10 03:21 PM |
#175 |
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Which is also weird because MM has a wife and a daughter .... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-14-10 07:12 PM |
#213 |
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me too. I thought it was a misogyny-based remark. |
BlancheSplanchnik |
Nov-14-10 04:10 PM |
#182 |
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k&r and why I find the term so damn offensive |
uppityperson |
Nov-13-10 05:51 PM |
#7 |
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Thank you, you said it much better than I. nt |
sufrommich |
Nov-13-10 05:52 PM |
#11 |
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+1 |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-14-10 12:37 PM |
#145 |
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To me, there is none other more courageous than gay men and women |
BlueCaliDem |
Nov-13-10 05:52 PM |
#9 |
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Well said.. |
polmaven |
Nov-14-10 03:52 PM |
#180 |
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In the hospital, years and years ago, |
PDJane |
Nov-13-10 05:53 PM |
#13 |
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Mike Malloy uses (used?) the term "pink tutu Democrats" |
BolivarianHero |
Nov-13-10 05:53 PM |
#14 |
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Maybe not, but why is "pink tutu" insulting? |
jpgray |
Nov-13-10 05:57 PM |
#16 |
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exactly , well said - if weren't insult why would they say it in the context they do |
karynnj |
Nov-13-10 08:52 PM |
#63 |
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Many people use words rooted in homophobia not knowing it |
FreeState |
Nov-13-10 05:59 PM |
#17 |
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But lots of "homophobia" is rooted in mysogyny...and |
whathehell |
Nov-14-10 07:38 AM |
#95 |
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Absolutely |
FreeState |
Nov-14-10 03:23 PM |
#176 |
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That was a just a mistake.. |
whathehell |
Nov-14-10 04:41 PM |
#184 |
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Ignorance is not always steeped in bigotry. |
October |
Nov-14-10 10:58 AM |
#132 |
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I'm into the arts and sports |
panader0 |
Nov-13-10 05:57 PM |
#15 |
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The worst thing |
femrap |
Nov-13-10 06:00 PM |
#18 |
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Highly recommended. And as just one example of refuting the whole "gays are cowards" crap.... |
terrya |
Nov-13-10 06:02 PM |
#19 |
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I don't think this is the primary problem |
CreekDog |
Nov-13-10 06:02 PM |
#20 |
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Why not do both? |
jpgray |
Nov-13-10 06:04 PM |
#22 |
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futility and time |
CreekDog |
Nov-13-10 06:07 PM |
#25 |
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"I don't think this is the primary problem..." |
jpgray |
Nov-13-10 06:12 PM |
#30 |
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I disagree - look at the gay teen suicides |
FreeState |
Nov-13-10 06:12 PM |
#31 |
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you arent the one for a lifetime being told weak, timid, hysterical, |
seabeyond |
Nov-13-10 06:14 PM |
#33 |
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Someone likely thought that about Little Rock schools once, too. |
blondeatlast |
Nov-13-10 07:09 PM |
#47 |
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trying to change the stereotype that "manly" = tough? |
CreekDog |
Nov-13-10 08:10 PM |
#51 |
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again, it;s not an either or situation at all, they should go hand in hand |
bettyellen |
Nov-13-10 10:12 PM |
#77 |
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I had some racist uncles |
dsc |
Nov-13-10 08:56 PM |
#66 |
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You either fight prejudices everywhere you find it or you leave an opening |
ThomCat |
Nov-14-10 05:24 AM |
#84 |
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I never even thought of that. |
murielm99 |
Nov-13-10 06:05 PM |
#23 |
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that is what bothers me so. this illusion only manly men are tough and strong when courage comes in |
seabeyond |
Nov-13-10 06:06 PM |
#24 |
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+ |
struggle4progress |
Nov-13-10 06:09 PM |
#27 |
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Laila Ali called. She has a pink tutu AND boxing gloves... |
pinboy3niner |
Nov-13-10 11:06 PM |
#82 |
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It also takes strength and courage to be willing to listen to others about what is offensive to them |
bobbolink |
Nov-13-10 08:33 PM |
#57 |
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AMEN. Very succinctly--and beautifully simply--said. nt |
blondeatlast |
Nov-13-10 10:08 PM |
#76 |
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Boiled down to the very essential point. Well said! |
ThomCat |
Nov-14-10 05:28 AM |
#85 |
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Didn't Bartcop initiate this? I've called him on it for YEARS |
October |
Nov-14-10 12:51 PM |
#148 |
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I think you are right. |
murielm99 |
Nov-14-10 02:57 PM |
#170 |
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Bart also said "Just list the facts" |
Buzz cook |
Nov-19-10 11:47 AM |
#224 |
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I took it to mean women are cowards. |
mzmolly |
Nov-13-10 06:08 PM |
#26 |
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People whose feet look like this from their art and livelihood are tough as nails and no cowards. |
Brickbat |
Nov-13-10 06:10 PM |
#28 |
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+1 |
Tuesday Afternoon |
Nov-13-10 07:01 PM |
#46 |
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recommend |
TexasObserver |
Nov-13-10 06:10 PM |
#29 |
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I took it to mean Obama was acting like a woman ballerina |
XemaSab |
Nov-13-10 06:13 PM |
#32 |
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I know an old man who used to be a denver bronco |
Roon |
Nov-13-10 06:22 PM |
#36 |
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There were loads of soccer player in my college ballet class because their |
1monster |
Nov-14-10 10:34 AM |
#126 |
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that was the stereotype I witnessed, not the anti-gay stereotype in this instance |
CreekDog |
Nov-13-10 06:37 PM |
#40 |
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Bill Maher is often very incredibly sexist and homophobic. |
ThomCat |
Nov-14-10 05:40 AM |
#86 |
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Maher's messaging has base, RW tendencies |
Kolesar |
Nov-14-10 06:27 AM |
#90 |
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You are correct about Maher... |
whathehell |
Nov-14-10 07:45 AM |
#96 |
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Hold on, it wasn't Bill Maher that said it...it was Michael Moore |
CreekDog |
Nov-14-10 12:13 PM |
#143 |
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My post was speaking in general about Bill Maher's commentary |
ThomCat |
Nov-14-10 01:21 PM |
#153 |
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I was one of the people that complained about "Femi-Nazis", then... |
Odin2005 |
Nov-14-10 05:39 PM |
#196 |
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I remember you from before. And I remember when you posted |
ThomCat |
Nov-14-10 06:02 PM |
#202 |
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Thanks! |
Odin2005 |
Nov-14-10 06:07 PM |
#203 |
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Thank you. /nt |
October |
Nov-14-10 12:47 PM |
#147 |
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so did i. |
orleans |
Nov-14-10 03:37 PM |
#178 |
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I get your point but to be honest when I hear that I think "little girl ballerina" |
Dragonfli |
Nov-13-10 06:18 PM |
#34 |
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i waited for someone to comment. no one has. sexist... is goes over your head, but now homophobic |
seabeyond |
Nov-13-10 08:17 PM |
#54 |
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I didn't know I was all that, I guess children beat up grown men all the time and are tough |
Dragonfli |
Nov-13-10 08:45 PM |
#61 |
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from the time we are little up to our grown men, we use relating all male to girl when we want to |
seabeyond |
Nov-13-10 08:59 PM |
#67 |
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Yes...It seems women are always |
whathehell |
Nov-14-10 07:59 AM |
#100 |
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so it's okay to insult someone by calling them a girl, though? |
mzteris |
Nov-13-10 08:55 PM |
#64 |
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I didn't mean to insult anybody and now I am a horrible human being |
Dragonfli |
Nov-13-10 10:56 PM |
#81 |
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Naw. This stuff gets nuts.. |
axollot |
Nov-14-10 02:01 PM |
#157 |
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I will say that certainly there is a huge sexist component here |
dsc |
Nov-13-10 06:19 PM |
#35 |
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Much of homophobia is rooted in misogyny. |
foxfeet |
Nov-13-10 06:37 PM |
#39 |
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exactly! n/t |
mzteris |
Nov-13-10 08:56 PM |
#65 |
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IMO most stereotypes of gays are misogynistic projections... |
Odin2005 |
Nov-14-10 05:44 PM |
#197 |
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Recommended. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Nov-13-10 06:33 PM |
#37 |
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K&R |
myrna minx |
Nov-13-10 06:35 PM |
#38 |
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in the same show he bemoaned that we haven't passed DADT repeal despite 70% support for doing so |
CreekDog |
Nov-13-10 06:39 PM |
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Nov-13-10 06:39 PM |
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I just countered your unrec |
Stinky The Clown |
Nov-13-10 06:51 PM |
#43 |
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WTF was his problem? Note, I use past tense. |
chill_wind |
Nov-13-10 06:53 PM |
#44 |
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Well spoken (it's also insulting to women, as many slurs for gay are) and I nullified |
blondeatlast |
Nov-13-10 06:59 PM |
#45 |
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So "pink tutu" is used as a noun? |
darkstar3 |
Nov-13-10 08:01 PM |
#48 |
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i dont think its homophobic but more sexist |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Nov-13-10 08:03 PM |
#49 |
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it's homophobia derived from sexism. I have thought this for a |
jonnyblitz |
Nov-13-10 09:04 PM |
#70 |
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a lot of straight people have no idea that there are unfeminine gay men. it's pretty crazy. |
bettyellen |
Nov-13-10 10:18 PM |
#79 |
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I'm glad I got here in time to K&R this. |
Jamastiene |
Nov-13-10 08:06 PM |
#50 |
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I've always seen it as a SEXIST insult (against women), and not anti-gay at all. |
kath |
Nov-13-10 08:12 PM |
#52 |
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Does it matter? A slur is a slur, regardless of where it is aimed. nt |
blondeatlast |
Nov-13-10 08:16 PM |
#53 |
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If you see a difference between anti-gay and misogyny, you let me know. |
darkstar3 |
Nov-13-10 08:20 PM |
#55 |
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+1! |
mzteris |
Nov-13-10 08:50 PM |
#62 |
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Agreed. nt |
blondeatlast |
Nov-13-10 09:26 PM |
#71 |
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Precisely... i've always observed the two to go hand-in-hand. n/t |
Rhythm |
Nov-13-10 09:58 PM |
#73 |
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Indeed |
Pacifist Patriot |
Nov-14-10 12:39 PM |
#146 |
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Exactly. It's this whole half-stalled gender revolution shit we're stuck in. It's a-ok for |
iris27 |
Nov-13-10 08:22 PM |
#56 |
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Sorry, but how in the world do you take Moores comment as a gay slur? |
earth mom |
Nov-13-10 08:34 PM |
#58 |
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You can call someone "weak" without adding "you know, feminine." |
jpgray |
Nov-13-10 09:01 PM |
#68 |
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He could have just said "Obama needs to put on his boxing gloves." |
blondeatlast |
Nov-13-10 10:00 PM |
#74 |
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Misogyny and homophobia (at least against gay men) usually go hand-in-hand. |
iris27 |
Nov-13-10 10:28 PM |
#80 |
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wow, now that is an interesting theory i have never thought about |
seabeyond |
Nov-13-10 11:18 PM |
#83 |
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All homophobia is also misogynistic. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-14-10 05:47 PM |
#199 |
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And I might add, ballerinas are far from weaklings!! |
Sparkly |
Nov-13-10 08:39 PM |
#60 |
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I get it and I believe educating people about it is crucial. |
laughingliberal |
Nov-13-10 09:02 PM |
#69 |
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I'm startled that many DUers so easily dismiss the anger about it. |
blondeatlast |
Nov-13-10 10:06 PM |
#75 |
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yep, there's a lot of patriarchal bullshit here. dismissive explainations about how they know |
bettyellen |
Nov-13-10 10:16 PM |
#78 |
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Yup, as I said up-thread I was like that until my friend's getting raped forced me to open my eyes. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-14-10 05:50 PM |
#201 |
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K & R |
Withywindle |
Nov-13-10 09:43 PM |
#72 |
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Why do you assume it's all about gays and not a sexist slam on being a female? |
dkf |
Nov-14-10 05:52 AM |
#87 |
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So gay men should be equated with women? |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-14-10 06:20 AM |
#88 |
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when my youngest son had that done to him, he said... and what is the problem with being a female? |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 09:03 AM |
#107 |
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exactly! |
mzteris |
Nov-14-10 09:35 AM |
#112 |
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"no, mom. It's not like being called a girl is an insult or anything!" ... enlightened |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 10:24 AM |
#121 |
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I love him, too. |
mzteris |
Nov-14-10 11:25 AM |
#136 |
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your boys sound like mine, difference in size too. and age order. isnt that interesting |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 11:31 AM |
#137 |
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It sounds like your kids grow up with some very well rounded |
ThomCat |
Nov-14-10 06:18 PM |
#208 |
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That is a wonderful kid. You did well with him. |
ThomCat |
Nov-14-10 06:14 PM |
#207 |
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So bigotry against women and gay men is accepatable? |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-14-10 02:07 PM |
#159 |
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i think you had to work too hard to twist what happened with son, to that. |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 02:12 PM |
#160 |
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Actually, your's doesn't. |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-14-10 02:24 PM |
#164 |
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aegis, be it a slam against women or used to insult gays, it is wrong. simply. wrong. |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 02:42 PM |
#165 |
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Well, that is good to hear! |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-14-10 02:44 PM |
#166 |
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i dont have an issue with that. nor was i arguing dsc creating this thread. |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 02:51 PM |
#168 |
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It is clearly both. |
ThomCat |
Nov-14-10 06:21 AM |
#89 |
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Yet the poster equates being feminine with being weak and lacking courage. |
dkf |
Nov-14-10 06:30 AM |
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Nov-14-10 07:12 AM |
#92 |
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From your post... |
dkf |
Nov-14-10 07:57 AM |
#99 |
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Edit: Not worth the effort. nt |
blondeatlast |
Nov-14-10 08:08 AM |
#101 |
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Name removed |
Nov-14-10 08:09 AM |
#102 |
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Read the thread. I'm not the only one pointing this out. |
dkf |
Nov-14-10 11:45 AM |
#139 |
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i got that little twist also, lol. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 09:01 AM |
#106 |
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K&R for all my loving & loved Gay friends! Well said! Thank you!! eom |
flyarm |
Nov-14-10 07:26 AM |
#93 |
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well, for the record, ballet dancers take a lot of shit.... |
tomp |
Nov-14-10 07:27 AM |
#94 |
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I agree with you .. |
sendero |
Nov-14-10 08:16 AM |
#103 |
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True, but that isn't how Moore meant it. The exact quote: |
blondeatlast |
Nov-14-10 08:33 AM |
#104 |
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The first thing that always comes to MY mind when I hear "pink tutu" is Cheech, end of "Up In Smoke" |
HopeHoops |
Nov-14-10 08:52 AM |
#105 |
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Yep. n/t |
kurtzapril4 |
Nov-14-10 05:15 PM |
#189 |
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K & R! |
lonestarnot |
Nov-14-10 09:09 AM |
#108 |
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Who uses a term like that? |
Mimosa |
Nov-14-10 09:11 AM |
#109 |
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Michael Moore did, on "Real time with Bill Maher," referring to Pres. Obama. Quote: |
blondeatlast |
Nov-14-10 09:50 AM |
#113 |
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simply left off the pink tutu part; I'd have no problem with what he said. |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 10:26 AM |
#122 |
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In context, Moore's remark was not hate speech |
Mimosa |
Nov-14-10 10:34 AM |
#127 |
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i didnt say hate and i figure he was buddying up to sexist maher to feel all manly |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 10:49 AM |
#129 |
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Agree with all of it--as I say, had he just used the boxing analogy alone, no problem. |
blondeatlast |
Nov-14-10 11:10 AM |
#134 |
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My younger brother is a combat-decorated Naval aviator. He's also gay. I defy anyone ... |
11 Bravo |
Nov-14-10 09:19 AM |
#110 |
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I'm baffled that this even needs explanation! (n/t) |
Iggo |
Nov-14-10 09:35 AM |
#111 |
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I winced when MM used that expression |
Love Bug |
Nov-14-10 09:50 AM |
#114 |
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thanks. spade a spade |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 10:27 AM |
#123 |
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looked before and wasnt difinite so stopped using. i remember. here is what it says |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 10:33 AM |
#125 |
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Interesting. |
kurtzapril4 |
Nov-14-10 05:30 PM |
#194 |
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Michael Moore had been talking earlier, about how "effective" |
SoCalDem |
Nov-14-10 02:21 PM |
#161 |
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so when repugs use girlie man, are they merely talking about little girls or feminized men? |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 02:46 PM |
#167 |
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Yes, I guess it IS "sexist", but as a political tool, it paints a vivid |
SoCalDem |
Nov-14-10 03:19 PM |
#174 |
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you either stand against something or dont. n***** was once the way it was. |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 03:53 PM |
#181 |
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When someone tells me to "grow a pair" |
kurtzapril4 |
Nov-14-10 05:20 PM |
#191 |
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here's why I don't like it... |
AlbertCat |
Nov-14-10 10:01 AM |
#116 |
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I don't like those stupid pink ribbons everywhere, either - and for |
Kalyke |
Nov-14-10 10:05 AM |
#117 |
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I completely agree. |
PerpetuallyDazed |
Nov-14-10 10:05 AM |
#118 |
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I've got news for you. When I hear the term "pink tutus", I don't connect it with "gay". |
vanbean |
Nov-14-10 10:17 AM |
#119 |
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Very happy to K&R this! |
racaulk |
Nov-14-10 10:18 AM |
#120 |
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I have to take issue with you elevating football! over the arts. If we want |
1monster |
Nov-14-10 10:28 AM |
#124 |
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Nice. Thank you. /nt |
October |
Nov-14-10 12:52 PM |
#149 |
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no one is disrespecting ballerinas here, sorry. they are disrespecting the idea that it is okay to |
bettyellen |
Nov-14-10 07:07 PM |
#212 |
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You totally missed my point....... |
1monster |
Nov-14-10 10:41 PM |
#216 |
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Oh were you joking that people here were denying respect to ballerinas? because your post is |
bettyellen |
Nov-15-10 06:09 PM |
#219 |
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step further, female qualities we are given, not that they are true. a forever conditioning |
seabeyond |
Nov-16-10 08:17 AM |
#222 |
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I don't believe the weird detours people go to in denying that fact that these |
bettyellen |
Nov-16-10 06:53 PM |
#223 |
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Oh pulleeezzzeee |
Raoul |
Nov-14-10 10:37 AM |
#128 |
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right. only about dissing female and as a hetero male, that is please, get a life. |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 10:50 AM |
#130 |
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"Get a fucking life." "Lighten up a bit>" In this very thread, many gays and women |
blondeatlast |
Nov-14-10 11:16 AM |
#135 |
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Well, I'm a woman |
kurtzapril4 |
Nov-14-10 06:10 PM |
#205 |
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yes, and as you shrig this off, many shrugged off the coulter thing. then again, ,many of the |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 06:50 PM |
#209 |
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Sorry, dupe |
kurtzapril4 |
Nov-14-10 06:10 PM |
#206 |
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Those "uppity" coloreds should never have been pissed off about |
blondeatlast |
Nov-14-10 11:35 AM |
#138 |
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the one who is insulted gets to decide whether they are insulted |
mzteris |
Nov-14-10 11:51 AM |
#142 |
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"Get a fucking life" "Lighten up"....."So fucking sensitive"....Disgusting. |
Bluebear |
Nov-14-10 02:05 PM |
#158 |
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telling other people their concerns aren;t important? why does anyone here gives a fuck what u think |
bettyellen |
Nov-14-10 03:04 PM |
#171 |
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I love you. |
Bluebear |
Nov-15-10 01:21 AM |
#217 |
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I love you too Bluebear! |
bettyellen |
Nov-15-10 06:13 PM |
#220 |
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No. n/t |
demmiblue |
Nov-14-10 03:12 PM |
#173 |
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+1 |
fishbulb703 |
Nov-14-10 03:28 PM |
#177 |
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The Marine's Lament (ridicules DADT) |
frogmarch |
Nov-14-10 10:58 AM |
#131 |
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I prefer 'Vichy Dems' personally |
Taverner |
Nov-14-10 11:10 AM |
#133 |
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Homosexuality, as someone said of old age, is not for sissies. n/t |
Smarmie Doofus |
Nov-14-10 11:47 AM |
#140 |
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Can I add to this... |
October |
Nov-14-10 12:14 PM |
#144 |
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This is some sort of common place terminology? |
harmonicon |
Nov-14-10 01:20 PM |
#151 |
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DSC, You Rock |
NashVegas |
Nov-14-10 01:21 PM |
#152 |
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Agree, agree - but please, hear my plea - outrage like this - about a tutu reminds me |
axollot |
Nov-14-10 01:46 PM |
#154 |
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I never heard "pink tutu" before. Is that something only used in the LGBT community? |
bc3000 |
Nov-14-10 01:50 PM |
#155 |
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Cowardice... yeah right.... K&R |
Lost-in-FL |
Nov-14-10 01:52 PM |
#156 |
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100% agree. |
Capitalocracy |
Nov-14-10 02:22 PM |
#162 |
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Totally agree the strongest peoplein the world are gay because they have to be. |
DemocraticPilgrim |
Nov-14-10 02:24 PM |
#163 |
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K&R n/t |
Denzil_DC |
Nov-14-10 02:52 PM |
#169 |
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Color me naive, but when I heard Michael Moore say that ... |
puebloknot |
Nov-14-10 03:11 PM |
#172 |
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Hear hear! Also, taking it back back further, aren't they calling women cowards? Or just ballerinas? |
DesertDiamond |
Nov-14-10 03:38 PM |
#179 |
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You and I may not agree on much in terms of the president, but you are spot on here! |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Nov-14-10 04:44 PM |
#185 |
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Toughen up |
Hawkowl |
Nov-14-10 04:53 PM |
#186 |
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no he wasnt. a weak girl. calling bullshit out is toughing up.... ignoring it is weak. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 04:58 PM |
#188 |
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Haven't heard pink tutu in years - since I stopped going to bartcop |
Politicub |
Nov-14-10 04:54 PM |
#187 |
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Didn't you have a Shirley picture for him? Guess not. |
Hardrada |
Nov-14-10 05:20 PM |
#192 |
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What? Not sure what you mean n/t |
Politicub |
Nov-14-10 05:36 PM |
#195 |
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Check down at the botton of Bartcop's columns. |
Hardrada |
Nov-15-10 03:13 AM |
#218 |
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I suppose if you were a fan of Tom Dashle it might be upsetting. |
Buzz cook |
Nov-19-10 12:06 PM |
#225 |
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Interesting. I will K&R because I honestly never saw it that way. I took that expression |
Grown2Hate |
Nov-14-10 05:19 PM |
#190 |
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pink tutu = little girls. girlie men. quit crying like a girl, throwing, running |
seabeyond |
Nov-14-10 05:45 PM |
#198 |
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Male ballet dancers |
polmaven |
Nov-16-10 07:35 AM |
#221 |
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And us straight guys that fit the "stereotype" are accused of being gay, it sucks. |
Odin2005 |
Nov-14-10 05:29 PM |
#193 |
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K&R -- |
defendandprotect |
Nov-14-10 05:50 PM |
#200 |
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late K&R --- |
defendandprotect |
Nov-14-10 06:08 PM |
#204 |
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Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours |
Truth2Tell |
Nov-14-10 06:58 PM |
#210 |
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OMG, I'm fucking GAY.... |
WCGreen |
Nov-14-10 06:59 PM |
#211 |
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+1 |
Odin2005 |
Nov-14-10 10:11 PM |
#215 |
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Love that people are looking at this from the highest perspectives .... sexism and homophobia.... |
defendandprotect |
Nov-14-10 07:21 PM |
#214 |