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coti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 02:22 AM
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32. They're awfully gullible, but the Republicans don't believe enough in their gullibility on
this issue to have the gall to do that.

Again, look at Boehner's statement above. They know that if we pin them down, they have to vote for it.

It's just a matter of making it happen procedurally.
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  -Someone tell me why Obama can't just propose the middle class cuts in the lame duck House session, coti  Nov-11-10 01:32 AM   #0 
  - The  ProSense   Nov-11-10 01:35 AM   #1 
  - Pass the permanent middle class cuts through the House and let him argue with the middle class.  coti   Nov-11-10 01:38 AM   #4 
     - " I still don't see the issue."  ProSense   Nov-11-10 01:44 AM   #7 
        - You were talking about the Senate, first. Now it's the House?  coti   Nov-11-10 01:47 AM   #11 
        - "Pass the permanent middle class cuts through the House"  ProSense   Nov-11-10 01:53 AM   #16 
           - The Senate wasn't an issue. You're just throwing crap at the wall and hoping it sticks. nt  coti   Nov-11-10 01:55 AM   #17 
        - wow, as usual, the excuse that "well, it will never pass so let's not even try"  ima_sinnic   Nov-11-10 04:43 AM   #40 
  - because Republicans would offer amendments  hfojvt   Nov-11-10 01:37 AM   #2 
  - We don't know that..  Hardrada   Nov-11-10 01:39 AM   #5 
  - There's something wrong with this reasoning. If it was valid, nothing would ever  coti   Nov-11-10 01:42 AM   #6 
  - Guess what? Reid managed to keep amendments out of the final fix to the health care bill that was...  laughingliberal   Nov-11-10 01:58 AM   #19 
  - shhhhhh.  Hannah Bell   Nov-11-10 01:37 AM   #3 
  - Because he is a corporatist wuss?  Hawkowl   Nov-11-10 01:44 AM   #8 
  - +1  grahamhgreen   Nov-11-10 01:51 AM   #13 
  - +2  Hoopla Phil   Nov-11-10 02:14 AM   #26 
  - bingo (n/t)  ima_sinnic   Nov-11-10 01:59 PM   #46 
  - They may. But I wouldn't count on the Repubs not filibustering.  TheWraith   Nov-11-10 01:45 AM   #9 
  - Because, ultimately, he doesn't want to  demwing   Nov-11-10 01:47 AM   #10 
  - Because he is not a member of Congress.  Ozymanithrax   Nov-11-10 01:50 AM   #12 
  - Nope. That whole tax cut was passed under reconciliation. No reason the middle class tax cut...  laughingliberal   Nov-11-10 01:51 AM   #14 
  - He would have a Representative propose it for him and there is no way in HELL  coti   Nov-11-10 01:53 AM   #15 
  - Really?  ProSense   Nov-11-10 01:55 AM   #18 
  - Tax cuts for the middle class? TAX CUTS??  coti   Nov-11-10 02:04 AM   #20 
     - Tax cuts and Republicans will filibuster it  ProSense   Nov-11-10 02:07 AM   #21 
        - Fine, let 'em do it and we'll KILL them in 2012!  coti   Nov-11-10 02:09 AM   #22 
           - Did you know they're  ProSense   Nov-11-10 02:13 AM   #25 
              - Most of them would lose their jobs, and they'd know it.  coti   Nov-11-10 02:15 AM   #27 
              - Let me see if I understand your argument:  ProSense   Nov-11-10 02:18 AM   #29 
                 - ??? Get some sleep.  coti   Nov-11-10 02:21 AM   #31 
              - You were better off arguing about the House. nt  coti   Nov-11-10 02:16 AM   #28 
  - Sorry, I disagree.  Ozymanithrax   Nov-11-10 02:10 AM   #23 
     - Not even people as stupid as teabaggers would buy that.  coti   Nov-11-10 02:11 AM   #24 
     - They have bought every Republican filibuster.  Ozymanithrax   Nov-11-10 02:18 AM   #30 
        - They're awfully gullible, but the Republicans don't believe enough in their gullibility on  coti   Nov-11-10 02:22 AM   #32 
     - The tax cut that's expiring was passed under reconciliation. I don't see why an middle class cut...  laughingliberal   Nov-11-10 02:33 AM   #34 
        - Here is the process...  Ozymanithrax   Nov-11-10 11:06 AM   #43 
  - +1 OP just assumes that the President is in charge of what goes  treestar   Nov-11-10 11:08 AM   #44 
     - it's like when they post a list of congressional accomplishments and try and give the pres credit..  frylock   Nov-11-10 12:55 PM   #45 
  - Because every time Democrats behave like they have a pair  Warren DeMontague   Nov-11-10 02:33 AM   #33 
  - Too many Dems in the current Senate would not vote for it because  DeltaLitProf   Nov-11-10 02:34 AM   #35 
  - Wouldn't even have to pass the lame duck Senate, it could carry over  coti   Nov-11-10 02:36 AM   #36 
     - It can't. All legislation has to start anew in each new Congress.  DeltaLitProf   Nov-11-10 02:38 AM   #37 
        - Why would the lame duck Senate be okay with passing both the middle class and high end cuts, but  coti   Nov-11-10 02:38 AM   #38 
  - Yes, isn't it crucial that they try to do it? and if necessary isolate recalcitrant Dems?  anAustralianobserver   Nov-11-10 04:01 AM   #39 
  - outgoing house members are playing to their next lucratic gig, not to the voters.  unblock   Nov-11-10 06:37 AM   #41 
  - Well . . . isn't it obvious?  Vinca   Nov-11-10 06:39 AM   #42 

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