Andy823
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Tue Nov-09-10 04:01 PM
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| -It's a curious argument to point to the election results as a progressive referendum on the WH |
bigtree |
Nov-09-10 03:55 PM |
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K&R...nt |
SidDithers |
Nov-09-10 03:56 PM |
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K&R nt. |
Andy823 |
Nov-09-10 04:01 PM |
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As much as I hate it. . . |
cyr330 |
Nov-09-10 04:01 PM |
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So what happens when |
kctim |
Nov-09-10 04:34 PM |
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K&R very well said, bigtree. thank you for posting this. nt |
nofurylike |
Nov-09-10 04:05 PM |
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You really do NOT get us politics |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-09-10 04:08 PM |
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one element that's roundly ignored or discounted by partisans |
bigtree |
Nov-09-10 04:49 PM |
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Even NATIONAL PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-09-10 05:13 PM |
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Democratic folks were sure 'excited' in my state. |
bigtree |
Nov-09-10 05:30 PM |
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There you go they were excited about a LOCAL race |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-09-10 05:37 PM |
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I don't have any sympathy for those who stayed home. |
jaxx |
Nov-09-10 04:10 PM |
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Me neither, they are just acting above it all |
treestar |
Nov-09-10 04:23 PM |
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Kick, Rec. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Nov-09-10 04:10 PM |
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Do you have any statistics that show Democrats sat out the election? |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-09-10 04:12 PM |
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The electorate in 2008 was D+8, as opposed to D+0 in 2010. That's a huge difference -- if all House |
BzaDem |
Nov-09-10 04:54 PM |
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Okay, but since most progressive Democrats did hold on to their |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-09-10 05:05 PM |
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What kinds of districts are progressives from? What about for blue dogs? |
BzaDem |
Nov-09-10 05:09 PM |
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We won in Republican districts before. |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-09-10 05:25 PM |
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Maybe I don't understand what you're saying. |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 04:12 PM |
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well, yeah |
bigtree |
Nov-09-10 04:28 PM |
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Ah. Now I see. Well, who said that the public will go for the real Republican every time? |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 04:35 PM |
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maybe you're right. I'm blaming republicans first, though. |
bigtree |
Nov-09-10 04:41 PM |
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Our turnout this year was about 2% points lower than 2006 last time |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 04:48 PM |
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plenty |
bigtree |
Nov-09-10 05:00 PM |
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When I read your post, I don't see anything concrete |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 05:05 PM |
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well, you just made an argument that the administration wasn't progressive enough |
bigtree |
Nov-09-10 05:24 PM |
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We need to do something for working people. |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 05:28 PM |
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So let me get this straight, since I am in the coast |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-09-10 05:20 PM |
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If that were true, and you also think that blue dogs are phony Republicans, |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-09-10 05:47 PM |
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I think it may be accurate to say that progressives in ConservaDem districts |
Better Today |
Nov-09-10 04:29 PM |
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many of those bds had voted with our party over 90% of the time |
bigtree |
Nov-09-10 04:36 PM |
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Is there any evidence of that? This progressive "refusal to vote" |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 04:39 PM |
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I'm evidence. |
Better Today |
Nov-09-10 04:45 PM |
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Wait -- are you contaminating a crime scene? |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 04:50 PM |
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Shhh! It's not supposed to make any sense. |
JackRiddler |
Nov-09-10 04:30 PM |
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The floggings will continue until morale improves.. |
Fumesucker |
Nov-09-10 04:14 PM |
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YOU JUST WANTED TODD PALIN TO BE THE FIRST GENTLEMAN!!!11 |
leftstreet |
Nov-09-10 04:20 PM |
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the mantra from the left that lack of attention to progressive issues lost us the House |
bigtree |
Nov-09-10 04:33 PM |
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Exactly. I don't know why people don't put the blame squarely where it belongs -- on those who |
BzaDem |
Nov-09-10 04:49 PM |
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When the public doesn't buy your product, the solution isn't beating up on the public |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 04:51 PM |
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Why are you equating voting to sales? Voting is a citizen's responsibilty. Buying a car is not. n/t |
BzaDem |
Nov-09-10 04:55 PM |
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Right. That's why politicians spend millions of dollars on branding, |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 05:10 PM |
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So? Again, voting is a citizen's responsibility. Buying a car is not. The millions of dollars spent |
BzaDem |
Nov-09-10 05:12 PM |
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LOL |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 05:15 PM |
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... says the person who equates product sales with voting. |
BzaDem |
Nov-09-10 05:16 PM |
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Pseudo-logic is one of my hobbies. This is what you wrote: |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 05:23 PM |
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It has nothing to do with the distinction between voting or not voting. It just has to do with WHO |
BzaDem |
Nov-09-10 05:24 PM |
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If this was Mexico, where NOT voting is socially shunned, |
nadinbrzezinski |
Nov-09-10 05:26 PM |
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Bad metaphor |
treestar |
Nov-09-10 04:56 PM |
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Metaphor works just fine and is common as corn in politics. n/t |
EFerrari |
Nov-09-10 05:14 PM |
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I heard it from right wingers in 06 and 08 |
treestar |
Nov-09-10 04:57 PM |
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Do you have support for your assertion that Democrats sat |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-09-10 05:02 PM |
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Yes. See post 28. n/t |
BzaDem |
Nov-09-10 05:06 PM |
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that point is the only thread progressive critics have |
bigtree |
Nov-09-10 05:14 PM |
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Why not talk about what the Blue Dogs did? Their candidates |
Bluenorthwest |
Nov-09-10 05:39 PM |
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I'm whining about progressive *critics* and rejecting their criticism |
bigtree |
Nov-09-10 05:47 PM |
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k and r |
grantcart |
Nov-09-10 05:31 PM |
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That's because they'll say whatever they think will manipulate people into their agenda. |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-09-10 05:44 PM |
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P.S.: K&R n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-09-10 05:44 PM |
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