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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 05:14 AM
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255. Agree 100%
Why are we afraid of fighting the lies when WE are in the majority?

If Dems cut funding, undoubtedly the MSM will spew the "don't support the troops lie." But at this point the only people buying that are the dead-enders who will vote republican no matter what, so what have we lost?

Very nice essay.
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  -If you are going to go down, there are times when it is better to go down fighting. Skinner  May-23-07 09:01 AM   #0 
  - Thank you - well said.  Phredicles   May-23-07 09:04 AM   #1 
  - Emiliano Zappata: "I would rather die on my feet a free man than live  roguevalley   May-24-07 12:17 AM   #248 
  - Excellent.  JDPriestly   May-23-07 09:05 AM   #2 
  - Bravo. There is a time to fight even if for no other reason than  mmonk   May-23-07 09:06 AM   #3 
  - Very well said...If our founders had taken the same (gutless)position...  hayu_lol   May-23-07 09:14 AM   #19 
  - Exactly and precisely.  Philosoraptor   May-23-07 09:07 AM   #4 
  - Now you're talk'n!  lonestarnot   May-23-07 09:08 AM   #5 
  - Agreed. K&R!  Dhalgren   May-23-07 09:08 AM   #6 
  - Dems wend down alright...  BobRossi   May-23-07 09:08 AM   #7 
  - From your lips to their ears... It's a little late for showing we have guts...  Beelzebud   May-23-07 09:08 AM   #8 
  - Wow  Robbien   May-23-07 09:08 AM   #9 
  - Thank You  atreides1   May-23-07 09:09 AM   #10 
  - Yes indeed, it's "a much greater sign of weakness than our position on the war". recommended.  dicksteele   May-23-07 09:10 AM   #11 
  - Thanks for you input  IChing   May-23-07 09:11 AM   #12 
  - I so agree here, Skinner! But this rally is too late, I'm afraid......  DemExpat   May-23-07 09:11 AM   #13 
  - Sadly, you are probably right.  Skinner   May-23-07 09:15 AM   #20 
     - Now would be the time for a massive march on Washington.  DemExpat   May-23-07 09:22 AM   #31 
     - march this weekend  landonb16   May-23-07 09:38 PM   #227 
     - Did you send this to Congress? For whatever it's worth, they SHOULD see it.  tblue   May-23-07 08:58 PM   #221 
  - I agree - but don't believe Lieberman is acting alone here. He has staunch allies  blm   May-23-07 09:12 AM   #14 
  - And you KNOW why he's now supporting Susan Collins!  calipendence   May-23-07 11:09 PM   #237 
  - Damn skippy. Thanks for spelling it out - no SPIN. Dems tucked tail and slunk away.  chimpymustgo   May-23-07 09:13 AM   #15 
  - Awesome  DS1   May-23-07 09:13 AM   #16 
  - It is time to cram it up the backsides...  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   May-23-07 09:13 AM   #17 
  - K&R  nam78_two   May-23-07 09:14 AM   #18 
  - K&R- Well put Skinner  liberal N proud   May-23-07 09:16 AM   #21 
  - Skinner, You Are Simoly The Best, Better Than All The Rest  Dinger   May-23-07 09:16 AM   #22 
  - Thank you Skinner. n/t  myrna minx   May-23-07 09:17 AM   #23 
  - In that vein, where are you on impeachment?  WilliamPitt   May-23-07 09:18 AM   #24 
  - Still opposed. (nt)  Skinner   May-23-07 09:20 AM   #25 
     - do you have a journal entry explaining your position?  nashville_brook   May-23-07 10:30 AM   #75 
        - I don't have anything that is solely on this issue  Skinner   May-23-07 11:23 AM   #100 
           - A few questions on the referenced paragraph  pat_k   May-23-07 02:15 PM   #151 
              - Kicking your great post - thank you for writing this.  Pooka Fey   May-23-07 03:26 PM   #168 
              - This is what confuses me about Skinner's postition.  file83   May-23-07 07:40 PM   #205 
  - Thank you Skinner  Horse with no Name   May-23-07 09:20 AM   #26 
  - That's exactly what I thought about Habeus Corpus.  RevCheesehead   May-23-07 09:20 AM   #27 
  - Couldn't agree with you more, Rev!  calimary   May-24-07 12:59 AM   #249 
  - well said!  Blue_Roses   May-23-07 09:21 AM   #28 
  - K&R  bvar22   May-23-07 09:21 AM   # 
  - Very well said, and thank you for that Lieberman view  Norquist Nemesis   May-23-07 09:21 AM   #29 
  - Not only must 'WE' fight the rethugs, but now 'WE' must fight the Democrats.......  Double T   May-23-07 09:21 AM   #30 
  - Bravo! My sentiments EXACTLY!  youthere   May-23-07 09:23 AM   #32 
  - That's exactly it. It isn't just "doing the right thing" anymore...  info being   May-23-07 09:23 AM   #33 
  - Thank you for confirming, "Are we allowed to say the Democrats caved on war funding?"  bullwinkle428   May-23-07 09:24 AM   #34 
  - republicans failed to join us  pwb   May-23-07 09:24 AM   #35 
  - Thanks Skinner  seasonedblue   May-23-07 09:25 AM   #36 
  - "The idea that legislators get out ahead of public opinion,  deutsey   May-23-07 09:30 AM   #37 
  - That's a great quote by Elizabeth Drew.  Zenlitened   May-23-07 09:53 AM   #45 
  - Yeah you quoted me that too  Generator   May-23-07 08:13 PM   #214 
  - I agree, but how many times do we have to show them?  johnnie   May-23-07 09:34 AM   #38 
  - you haven't addressed whether you think there is a need for funding  bigtree   May-23-07 09:45 AM   #39 
  - I believe that ultimately there will need to be some funding.  Skinner   May-23-07 10:02 AM   #51 
  - It couldn't have played out any worse  bigtree   May-23-07 10:24 AM   #69 
  - The funding shortfall is because of the President, NOT congress  lynyrd_skynyrd   May-23-07 10:21 AM   #68 
     - yet, the funds are still effectively delayed  bigtree   May-23-07 10:30 AM   #74 
        - So Congress should give in to Bush's demands?  lynyrd_skynyrd   May-23-07 10:41 AM   #81 
        - Who do we expect to get the troops already deployed the resources and equipment they need?  bigtree   May-23-07 11:02 AM   #90 
           - you should quit parroting republican talking points....  mike_c   May-23-07 11:17 AM   #96 
           - You need to come off of that shit.  bigtree   May-23-07 11:35 AM   #105 
           - Some of us and Keith Olbermann is in this crowd  truedelphi   May-24-07 12:06 AM   #246 
           - Who said "impeach for veto"? Impeach for torture. or criminal spying, or. . .  pat_k   May-24-07 03:42 PM   #268 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-23-07 07:57 PM   #211 
           - wonderful. another person who can't make an argument without an insult  bigtree   May-23-07 08:03 PM   #212 
              - Why would that be insult when I'm sure you agree with many of  Generator   May-23-07 08:09 PM   #213 
                 - where in the world did you get all of that?  bigtree   May-23-07 08:22 PM   #216 
  - Thanks, Skinner. Any possibility of getting the activist group going?  babylonsister   May-23-07 09:48 AM   #40 
  - Once again, we are seeing headlines, "the most violent month in Iraq for U.S. soldiers."  Straight Shooter   May-23-07 09:49 AM   #41 
  - Fear of political repercussions is a recipe for paralysis.  Tierra_y_Libertad   May-23-07 09:49 AM   #42 
  - Democrats: If you don't STAND for SOMETHING...  Triana   May-23-07 09:51 AM   #43 
  - I expect to get screwed by the Repubes, but not by our own.  Lastlaughin08   May-23-07 09:52 AM   #44 
  - YEP!  kowanda32   May-23-07 03:40 PM   #173 
  - You summed it up perfectly: "Democratic leaders in Congress have sent the message to Bush,  notsodumbhillbilly   May-23-07 09:58 AM   #46 
  - Do you ever get the feeling that any time the Dems have a chance to  truedelphi   May-23-07 05:31 PM   #182 
     - IMO it's more a matter of complicity  notsodumbhillbilly   May-23-07 06:07 PM   #193 
     - Well I just saw Edwards being interviewed By Chris Matthews  truedelphi   May-23-07 07:20 PM   #203 
     - i have wondered  barbtries   May-24-07 08:30 AM   #262 
  - Wow well said!  bonito   May-23-07 09:59 AM   #47 
  - Well stated.....  CaliforniaPeggy   May-23-07 10:00 AM   # 
  - Dupe, delete...nt  CaliforniaPeggy   May-23-07 10:00 AM   #48 
  - This cowardice hurts the Democratic Presidential candidate, too  herbster   May-23-07 10:01 AM   #49 
  - Are you going to start Anarchist Underground?  NightWatcher   May-23-07 10:02 AM   #50 
  - Um, no.  Skinner   May-23-07 10:06 AM   #56 
  - then do you suggest that we purge the Democratic party  NightWatcher   May-23-07 10:09 AM   #57 
     - Not with you there either.  Skinner   May-23-07 10:15 AM   #64 
     - Y'know, I just don't think it's going to happen  AbbyR   May-23-07 11:31 AM   #103 
     - In other words, we must show them that we can be fucked with.  Usrename   May-23-07 12:11 PM   #109 
     - Sorry, but I'm never going to support any purge.  Skinner   May-23-07 12:33 PM   #114 
        - A well-stated argument is the seed of any future progress.  Usrename   May-23-07 02:46 PM   #157 
           - Case in point: The Rupublicans did everything they could to get Bush elected.  file83   May-23-07 07:45 PM   #208 
     - Just to make a point.  file83   May-23-07 07:42 PM   #207 
     - Primaries  H2O Man   May-23-07 10:25 AM   #70 
     - except when they run as independents,  ulysses   May-23-07 10:27 AM   #71 
        - Valid point.  H2O Man   May-23-07 10:29 AM   #72 
        - valid point in return.  ulysses   May-23-07 10:31 AM   #78 
        - Right.  H2O Man   May-23-07 10:48 AM   #83 
           - I'd like to hear more about that coordination and how it's worked.  ulysses   May-23-07 10:55 AM   #87 
              - A couple of  H2O Man   May-23-07 11:26 AM   #101 
        - The most important reason for an impeachment movement.  Usrename   May-23-07 12:16 PM   #110 
           - It certainly tells us who is, and who is not,. . .  pat_k   May-24-07 03:09 PM   #267 
        - Let them run as independents  FatDave   May-23-07 02:42 PM   #155 
     - No. He is suggesting doing nothing and crying about it when they  WakingLife   May-23-07 10:53 AM   #86 
        - I think we can support Democrats without abandoning the Party.  mzmolly   May-23-07 01:59 PM   #143 
  - I remain convinced that we need to work within the party.  endarkenment   May-23-07 10:15 AM   #63 
  - how do we achieve that?  ulysses   May-23-07 10:21 AM   #67 
     - Oddly enough we need only look at what the R's did after  endarkenment   May-23-07 10:30 AM   #77 
     - fair enough.  ulysses   May-23-07 10:33 AM   #79 
     - For The Past Two Years Or So I've Been Saying It's Time!!  ChiciB1   May-23-07 01:50 PM   #136 
  - Count me in  Cobalt-60   May-23-07 11:29 PM   #241 
  - You should have heard the CBC this morning  TrogL   May-23-07 10:02 AM   #52 
  - yep--and no one has threatened to filibuster yet  yurbud   May-23-07 10:02 AM   #53 
  - I agree  Annces   May-23-07 10:02 AM   #54 
  - Let us send the message loud and clear  dogday   May-23-07 10:06 AM   #55 
  - I don't often see you taking a specific angle  tavalon   May-23-07 10:09 AM   #58 
  - Cowardice on a global scale.  truebrit71   May-23-07 10:09 AM   #59 
  - THANK YOU  ulysses   May-23-07 10:11 AM   #60 
  - I have a suggestion regarding this matter and DU.  endarkenment   May-23-07 10:12 AM   #61 
  - I agree 100%  NightWatcher   May-23-07 10:17 AM   #65 
  - has DU as a whole ever taken a unified stand -- is there a mechanism to do so?  nashville_brook   May-23-07 10:47 AM   #82 
     - We do have rules about what is permissible.  endarkenment   May-23-07 12:37 PM   #118 
     - This is a completely unnecessary rule.  Skinner   May-23-07 12:42 PM   #121 
     - Here! Hear!  truedelphi   May-24-07 12:08 AM   #247 
     - Has the DU as a Whole Ever Taken a Stand  Broken Top   May-24-07 01:54 AM   #250 
        - Can DU develop beyond passive disscussion? -- Port Huron Statement  nashville_brook   May-24-07 01:16 PM   #263 
  - Spot on Skin....  LeftHander   May-23-07 10:15 AM   #62 
  - I couldn't agree more:  Zenlitened   May-23-07 10:19 AM   #66 
  - Skinner, Spot On  Irishonly   May-23-07 10:29 AM   #73 
  - The people spoke out against Bush's war in November 2006  Lone_Star_Dem   May-23-07 10:30 AM   #76 
  - Ok, so our next step is?  RiverStone   May-23-07 10:37 AM   #80 
  - Hell Skinner, Did You See Mitch McConnell Take To The Microphone Yesterday ???  WillyT   May-23-07 10:48 AM   #84 
  - The Only Way Dems Can Get a "Win" Is By Shutting Down Congress  Crisco   May-23-07 10:51 AM   #85 
  - That's exactly what I'm thinking! nt  Truth Hurts A Lot   May-23-07 11:00 AM   #88 
  - What the Dems should do  bluescribbler   May-23-07 11:01 AM   #89 
  - Thank you Skinner  YOY   May-23-07 11:03 AM   #91 
  - Expose 9/11.  Beam Me Up   May-23-07 11:12 AM   #92 
  - thank you for so elequently saying what many of us have been...  mike_c   May-23-07 11:14 AM   #93 
  - Whoo hoo, well said! K and R  ClayZ   May-23-07 11:15 AM   #94 
  - pretending we have a democracy...dems - good cop, repukes - bad cop, all - screw the people. nt  NotGivingUp   May-23-07 11:15 AM   #95 
  - I hope Harry Reid and  zidzi   May-23-07 11:20 AM   #97 
  - Unfortunately  RagingInMiami   May-23-07 11:22 AM   #98 
  - k&r n/t  orleans   May-23-07 11:22 AM   #99 
  - The problem  droidamus2   May-23-07 11:27 AM   #102 
  - Dems obviously "paralyzed by fear"  Moochy   May-23-07 11:32 AM   #104 
  - I heard a bit of this yesterday while I was home with our little girl  underpants   May-23-07 11:44 AM   #106 
  - lincoln`s words still have meaning  madrchsod   May-23-07 11:47 AM   #107 
  - Nice analysis! nt  HamdenRice   May-23-07 12:03 PM   #108 
  - I used to think that some of the capitulation we see from dc dems was  wiggs   May-23-07 12:16 PM   #111 
  - My position is different from yours.  Skinner   May-23-07 12:38 PM   #120 
     - I tend to give the dems and republicans more credit...I'm sure they are almost  wiggs   May-23-07 06:01 PM   #191 
  - Well said, but what do we do now? nt  marlakay   May-23-07 12:20 PM   #112 
  - Great post, thank you  MadHound   May-23-07 12:20 PM   #113 
  - fantastic post n/t  Ms. Clio   May-23-07 12:34 PM   #115 
  - I'm disapointed but I have hope that in July, with Murtha leading  mzmolly   May-23-07 12:34 PM   #116 
  - Isn't it too late?  senseandsensibility   May-23-07 12:36 PM   #117 
  - Indeed, it is probably too late this time.  Skinner   May-23-07 12:45 PM   #123 
  - This time?  senseandsensibility   May-23-07 12:48 PM   #125 
     - Exactly.  mzmolly   May-23-07 01:55 PM   #139 
  - I don't think it is.  mzmolly   May-23-07 01:48 PM   #134 
  - Very well said  9thkvius   May-23-07 12:37 PM   #119 
  - I hope you sent a copy of this to your Senators and Rep  Reader Rabbit   May-23-07 12:44 PM   #122 
  - Democrats gave Bush and Congressional Republicans what they wanted  hfojvt   May-23-07 12:46 PM   #124 
  - Absolutely brilliant post  blueworld   May-23-07 12:52 PM   #126 
  - Addendum  blueworld   May-23-07 12:54 PM   #127 
  - I can tear up my speech now, Skinner..You covered it well.  Joe Fields   May-23-07 12:57 PM   #128 
  - Impeachment, out in the open, would keep the crimes...  puebloknot   May-23-07 01:03 PM   #129 
  - It is important to recognize that for now all we can do is send bill after bill to be vetoed  ComerPerro   May-23-07 01:05 PM   #130 
  - Excellent, I appreciate the clear expression of where we're at on this  Time for change   May-23-07 01:24 PM   #131 
  - "The time is now. Show this president that the Democrats are not to be f*%!^d with."  understandinglife   May-23-07 01:40 PM   #132 
  - Well Skinner... You Just Changed My Mind!! I Was Giving Them "More Time"  ChiciB1   May-23-07 01:41 PM   #133 
  - My vote would be to support candidates -- vocally -- who  sfexpat2000   May-23-07 01:59 PM   #144 
     - My House Election Isn't Even Official Yet!! I Live In Cruella's Old  ChiciB1   May-23-07 02:13 PM   #150 
        - I'm so sorry. But I don't know which is worse, really.  sfexpat2000   May-23-07 02:44 PM   #156 
           - I NEVER Thought Of It That Way!! YOU DO Have A Point!!  ChiciB1   May-23-07 03:32 PM   #170 
              - It ain't over.  sfexpat2000   May-23-07 04:15 PM   #177 
  - When one knows they are in the right, they never back down...  rasputin1952   May-23-07 01:48 PM   #135 
  - Another k&r for The Boss...n/t  Madspirit   May-23-07 01:54 PM   #137 
  - Well said. I would change one word in the entire post--  mnhtnbb   May-23-07 01:54 PM   #138 
  - We need to call our reps NOW to remind them they are treading on thin ice... oh, and fuck Lieberman!  Swamp Rat   May-23-07 01:55 PM   #140 
  - We don't need to be sending him bills, we need to be impeaching them all!  RestoreGore   May-23-07 01:56 PM   #141 
  - Likely the best piece you've written.  ReadTomPaine   May-23-07 01:56 PM   #142 
  - What's "this"  mzmolly   May-23-07 02:01 PM   #145 
     - There's nothing wrong with a principled stand taken forcefully  ReadTomPaine   May-23-07 02:26 PM   #152 
        - Very well said.  mzmolly   May-23-07 02:36 PM   #154 
  - What Now  jmondine   May-23-07 02:01 PM   #146 
  - Me too  trashcanistanista   May-23-07 03:38 PM   #172 
  - Well said, and I couldn't agree more on Lieberman.  WI_DEM   May-23-07 02:02 PM   #147 
  - But how are WE -- ordinary Dem voters -- supposed to "fight"?  BrainGlutton   May-23-07 02:10 PM   #148 
  - Thank you for this, Skinner.  WritersBlock   May-23-07 02:12 PM   #149 
  - Spoken like a  anotheryellowdog   May-23-07 02:31 PM   #153 
  - I think there could be another motivating reason  Hamlette   May-23-07 02:53 PM   #158 
  - Thank you for saying this so well  BReisen   May-23-07 03:04 PM   #159 
  - Beautiful post! n/t  mhatrw   May-23-07 03:04 PM   #160 
  - Something smells fishy  humbled_opinion   May-23-07 03:14 PM   #161 
  - There are plenty of places on the planet for bin Laden to plan his next  Miss Chybil   May-23-07 11:24 PM   #240 
  - wow  mdmc   May-23-07 03:16 PM   #162 
  - yup  JVS   May-23-07 03:21 PM   #163 
  - ITA...  AnneD   May-23-07 03:21 PM   #164 
  - Pragmatist  19jet54   May-23-07 03:22 PM   #165 
  - some of us have been saying this for a long time - since 2000 to be exact. nt  HardRocker05   May-23-07 03:25 PM   #166 
  - AMEN, I cannot agree with you more wholeheartedly.  onethatcares   May-23-07 03:25 PM   #167 
  - If we stand for nothing and if we govern in the defensive,  SarahBelle   May-23-07 03:26 PM   #169 
  - The Old Saying... If You Stand For NOTHING... You'll FALL For ANYTHING!  ChiciB1   May-23-07 03:36 PM   #171 
     - "If we do not learn from history"...  19jet54   May-23-07 05:16 PM   #180 
        - Of Course Bush Is The Idiot... It's The NICEST Term I Can Use!  ChiciB1   May-23-07 08:37 PM   #218 
           - Me too...  19jet54   May-23-07 11:54 PM   #244 
  - Excellent post. Thanks, Skinner. I've been so pissed off about this, I haven't been posting here.  graywarrior   May-23-07 03:55 PM   #174 
  - Fuckin' ay, Bubba!  Deep13   May-23-07 04:01 PM   #175 
  - This is a very difficult time for progressives, let alone Democrats.  sfexpat2000   May-23-07 04:09 PM   #176 
  - I agree entirely. Good analysis.`  Morgana LaFey   May-23-07 04:32 PM   #178 
  - well....  themartyred   May-23-07 05:03 PM   #179 
  - Beyond calling our elected officials  FLDem5   May-23-07 05:29 PM   #181 
  - Dont fuck with us...  FogerRox   May-23-07 05:31 PM   #183 
  - ....if you do fuck with us, we won't do anything to you.  file83   May-23-07 07:48 PM   #209 
     - Thats what I voted for in NOV, to get fucked.  FogerRox   May-24-07 01:29 PM   #264 
  - I think its worse than your stated concerns  Jacobin   May-23-07 05:36 PM   #184 
  - Ditto  notsodumbhillbilly   May-23-07 06:16 PM   #196 
  - No sense in beating a dead horse. We can't override Bush's veto.  Major Hogwash   May-23-07 05:45 PM   #185 
  - so we can't overrifde the veto? so what?  FLDem5   May-23-07 05:48 PM   #187 
  - I really had my hopes up. Now they are dashed. K & R. nt  Miss Chybil   May-23-07 05:47 PM   #186 
  - Yes, time to show everyone that liberals are not weenies. Yes, indeed.  Redstone   May-23-07 05:48 PM   #188 
  - but by doing what? what can we do now?  FLDem5   May-23-07 05:50 PM   #189 
     - Vote the the cringing, cowardly assholes OUT next time. I figure that's all we can do.  Redstone   May-23-07 07:49 PM   #210 
  - I'm disappointed and Sad  PuraVidaDreamin   May-23-07 05:53 PM   #190 
  - After reading this, I emailed a few of your ideas to my Rep.  IMModerate   May-23-07 06:04 PM   #192 
  - Don't hold your breath. - n/t  porphyrian   May-23-07 06:07 PM   #194 
  - Your post inspired me to donate again this month but what I honestly  AuntPatsy   May-23-07 06:07 PM   #195 
  - Never give up, never surrender!  Elrond Hubbard   May-23-07 06:23 PM   #197 
  - Skinner, where was your anger at Gephardt and Daschle who gave Bush his war?  David Zephyr   May-23-07 06:42 PM   #198 
  - well said, I am heartbroken over this  G_j   May-23-07 06:49 PM   #199 
  - I couldnt agree more. Stand up and fight and be willing to LOSE for DOING WHAT IS RIGHT!  TankLV   May-23-07 06:55 PM   #200 
  - Hmmm. Well. I'm looking at the points you made.  MADem   May-23-07 06:59 PM   #201 
  - No question, it's time to twist the screws on Joe.  ReadTomPaine   May-23-07 08:45 PM   #219 
     - It will only work if we first flip that Republican or three. Then we can tell him to go  MADem   May-23-07 11:11 PM   #238 
  - excellent  leftofthedial   May-23-07 07:02 PM   #202 
  - Well done, Skinner!  RoadRunner   May-23-07 07:35 PM   #204 
  - an unpopular opinion follows  Jim4Wes   May-23-07 07:42 PM   #206 
  - Time to show LIEberman the door.  sellitman   May-23-07 08:19 PM   #215 
  - What HE said!!!!  BrklynLiberal   May-23-07 08:25 PM   #217 
  - roger that  frogcycle   May-23-07 08:52 PM   #220 
  - absolutely!!..and as a mother i can think of nothing that will exonerate the dems for this choice  flyarm   May-23-07 09:08 PM   #222 
  - how to end it  lilypad_567   May-23-07 09:20 PM   #223 
  - k&r n/t  orleans   May-23-07 09:27 PM   #224 
  - Very well said - I see I'm not the only one  Laurab   May-23-07 09:27 PM   #225 
  - thanks Skinner very well said.  alyce douglas   May-23-07 09:30 PM   #226 
  - Very true  Canuckistanian   May-23-07 09:40 PM   #228 
  - Another way to look at this  symbolman   May-23-07 09:49 PM   #229 
  - throwing further caution to the wind  Jim4Wes   May-23-07 09:57 PM   #230 
     - Well said  symbolman   May-23-07 10:15 PM   #232 
     - In a rigged casino, the only way to win is not to play the game  ReadTomPaine   May-24-07 02:18 AM   #251 
        - The game in my analogy  Jim4Wes   May-24-07 05:47 AM   #257 
           - That is why your comparison is flawed. The game *is* rigged.  ReadTomPaine   May-24-07 02:03 PM   #266 
              - Gee, I've never heard that  Jim4Wes   May-24-07 04:28 PM   #270 
                 - It's going to take a lot more than passive aggressive sniffery to resolve this situation, Jim.  ReadTomPaine   May-24-07 05:19 PM   #271 
                    - Its a lonely road you want to travel  Jim4Wes   May-24-07 05:56 PM   #273 
                       - And I encourage & applaud your own actions as well...  ReadTomPaine   May-24-07 06:05 PM   #274 
  - I am seriously starting to wonder if there was an election back in Nov.  Rex   May-23-07 10:04 PM   #231 
  - Wow. Very nice. Thank you.  buddysmellgood   May-23-07 10:17 PM   #233 
  - and how many people will I see tomorrow...  whirlygigspin   May-23-07 10:26 PM   #234 
  - Skinner!  Whoa_Nelly   May-23-07 10:41 PM   #235 
  - Take your goddamn balls out of your purses, you cowards!!!  stillrockin   May-23-07 11:04 PM   #236 
  - Bravo, Skinner!  SeattleGirl   May-23-07 11:19 PM   #239 
  - Exactly the way I feel  steve2470   May-23-07 11:33 PM   #242 
  - The Democratic nomination is going to be decided this week, not next year!  IndianaGreen   May-23-07 11:43 PM   #243 
  - I am so disgusted it is almost beyond words  Jersey Devil   May-24-07 12:03 AM   #245 
  - "Hey, is there someting I'm missing here. I thought we were in charge" DUers 5/22  autorank   May-24-07 02:29 AM   #252 
  - I know. It's the same jaw-droppingly inane mentality that got us into this war to begin with.  impeachdubya   May-24-07 02:39 AM   #253 
  - So true. Like the trite old saying goes, 'No guts, no glory.  acmavm   May-24-07 05:05 AM   #254 
  - "No guts, no glory"?  hisownpetard   May-24-07 10:02 PM   #275 
  - Agree 100%  Dr. Death   May-24-07 05:14 AM   #255 
  - Ohhh...?  Aya Reiko   May-24-07 05:34 AM   #256 
  - Exactly. (n/t)  kenzee13   May-24-07 07:02 AM   #258 
  - We don't have an opposition party...We have the APPEARANCE of an opposition party...  Junkdrawer   May-24-07 07:22 AM   #259 
  - as usual...  RetroLounge   May-24-07 07:49 AM   #260 
  - It's not a War it's an occupation.  bagrman   May-24-07 08:18 AM   #261 
  - Thank you & I agree. This time, there is absolutely no downside to opposing this crap.  Justitia   May-24-07 01:39 PM   #265 
  - I completely agree.  NC_Nurse   May-24-07 03:47 PM   #269 
  - Very well-said. Agree.  wienerdoggie   May-24-07 05:24 PM   #272 
  - Reflecting back: Does Dodd deserve a Group? (nt)  NastyDiaper   May-26-07 10:50 AM   #276 
 

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