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N_E_1 for Tennis Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 01:06 PM
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53. Believe in this ...
Thanks to WillyT's link I think this quote sums it up.

Believe in this, spread this word, people will follow ... This is something no reasonable person would argue with.

"I believe in human dignity as the source of national purpose, in human liberty as the source of national action, and the human heart as the source of national compassion, and in the human mind as the source of our invention and our ideas. It is, I believe, this faith in our fellow citizens as individuals and as people that lies at the heart of the liberal faith, for liberalism is not so much a party creed or a set of fixed platform promises as it is an attitude of mind and heart, a faith in man's ability through the experiences of his reason and judgment to increase for himself and his fellow men the amount of Justice and freedom and brotherhood which all human life deserves."

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  -For three years, we've been told that liberals are not "the base". Lyric  Nov-03-10 01:28 PM   #0 
  - The party is against us  zipplewrath   Nov-03-10 01:32 PM   #1 
  - Misplaced blame.  Radical Activist   Nov-03-10 01:44 PM   #6 
  - What you said.  Skidmore   Nov-03-10 02:05 PM   #15 
  - GOP plan  zipplewrath   Nov-03-10 02:23 PM   #17 
  - You've left the reality based community.  Radical Activist   Nov-03-10 02:35 PM   #18 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-04-10 12:00 AM   #28 
  - obama does not have a liberal agenda no matter how many times you say it..nt  xiamiam   Nov-04-10 10:09 AM   #37 
  - + infinity  HughMoran   Nov-04-10 12:02 PM   #44 
  - If Obama is progressive in any way  ArcticFox   Nov-04-10 01:37 PM   #60 
  - Obama was televised calling himself a "New" Democrat nt  PufPuf23   Nov-04-10 01:37 PM   #61 
  - Yes, I particularly enjoyed his appearance on Fox where he bragged about 'beating back' proposals...  laughingliberal   Nov-04-10 12:58 PM   #51 
  - No. Resigning the Patriot Act, Killing DADT repeal, etc. etc. was not progressive.  readmoreoften   Nov-03-10 11:58 PM   #27 
  - The HCR Bill the WH negotiated had already traded away PO and script drug reimport - not progressive  leveymg   Nov-04-10 07:17 AM   #30 
  - Fail  Individualist   Nov-04-10 12:05 PM   #45 
  - +1,000. nt  Lorien   Nov-04-10 01:31 PM   #56 
  - No, not so liberal  MNBrewer   Nov-04-10 12:28 PM   #46 
  - LOL!  Greyhound   Nov-04-10 01:38 PM   #62 
  - DLC blah blah blah  HughMoran   Nov-04-10 12:00 PM   #43 
  - We are the party. We are democrats.  Politicub   Nov-04-10 12:37 PM   #48 
  - Well, if we are the base why did we lose?  BeFree   Nov-03-10 01:33 PM   #2 
  - The most liberal candidates didn't lose.  Lyric   Nov-03-10 01:42 PM   #4 
     - Oh, ok  BeFree   Nov-03-10 01:54 PM   #10 
     - By lying  jeff47   Nov-03-10 05:05 PM   #22 
     - By controlling  bergie321   Nov-04-10 12:47 PM   #49 
     - Use the socratic method against that.  MedicalAdmin   Nov-04-10 01:15 PM   #54 
     - No, I got the last word  BeFree   Nov-04-10 03:36 PM   #82 
     - They prefer the GOP because they know the GOP.  Greyhound   Nov-04-10 01:53 PM   #72 
     - The Latino community needs to be embraced as well.  EmeraldCityGrl   Nov-03-10 02:02 PM   #14 
     - Agree. And to be honest, I count the Latino community as part of the larger working-class base.  Lyric   Nov-03-10 02:08 PM   #16 
     - Latino  Gaedel   Nov-04-10 02:02 PM   #76 
     - But they are a minority in the House now  treestar   Nov-04-10 09:41 AM   #33 
     - Grayson and Feingold didn't lose? And the Blue Dogs who lost were newbies in Republican districts  KittyWampus   Nov-04-10 10:12 AM   #39 
     - That argument is a bit off an chicken and egg problem  dbmk   Nov-04-10 01:33 PM   #57 
  - Right fucking on! We progressive liberals ARE the base! Time for you conserva-dems  Subdivisions   Nov-03-10 01:36 PM   #3 
  - Time for them to get on the other bus where they belong.  readmoreoften   Nov-04-10 12:02 AM   #29 
  - Exactly that.  Edweird   Nov-04-10 10:03 AM   #36 
  - Like in 1972?? nt  Gaedel   Nov-04-10 02:05 PM   #77 
  - Both progressives and centrists lost last night  frazzled   Nov-03-10 01:43 PM   #5 
  - I disagree. I think we CAN draw conclusions.  Lyric   Nov-03-10 01:56 PM   #12 
     - I think you have an interesting hypothesis  The Green Manalishi   Nov-04-10 01:40 PM   #66 
  - Gee, I thought "progressives" are the base. I'm really confused by this.  Skidmore   Nov-03-10 01:44 PM   #7 
  - I don't disagree. I use the terms interchangeably.  Lyric   Nov-03-10 01:45 PM   #8 
     - There is some distinction made by some on these boards which  Skidmore   Nov-03-10 01:47 PM   #9 
        - Well it's not a dirty word to me. I'm proud of it.  Lyric   Nov-03-10 01:58 PM   #13 
  - Well said.  DirkGently   Nov-03-10 01:55 PM   #11 
  - You are wrong...  MellowDem   Nov-03-10 02:39 PM   #19 
  - Independents don't distinguish between the parties  jeff47   Nov-03-10 05:02 PM   #21 
  - Your analysis is wrong, MellowDem  JDPriestly   Nov-04-10 01:41 PM   #67 
  - Fantastic post, and so true. Inspired!  Zhade   Nov-03-10 02:46 PM   #20 
  - kick,you said it well  nadinbrzezinski   Nov-03-10 05:10 PM   #23 
  - I was interested to see that Progressive Caucus held firm while the Blue Dogs...  Danger Mouse   Nov-03-10 05:20 PM   #24 
  - Hopefully the right one, DM.  Lyric   Nov-03-10 08:22 PM   #26 
  - The Party is now the Progressive Caucus.  JDPriestly   Nov-04-10 01:45 PM   #69 
  - Pretty clear message  kctim   Nov-04-10 02:19 PM   #80 
  - Yes!  butterfly77   Nov-03-10 05:33 PM   #25 
  - Ironic isn't it ?  GeorgeGist   Nov-04-10 09:35 AM   #31 
  - Look, I agree the dems have pissed on their base for far too long. But...  no limit   Nov-04-10 09:37 AM   #32 
  - Fact is that progressives and liberals now run the party.  JDPriestly   Nov-04-10 01:45 PM   #70 
     - So we are in the minority now  Gaedel   Nov-04-10 02:14 PM   #79 
        - We need to educate Americans about progressive values.  JDPriestly   Nov-05-10 01:52 AM   #83 
  - The professional class of the Dems (not to be confused with the "Professional Left")  Hello_Kitty   Nov-04-10 09:49 AM   #34 
  - JFK On What It Means To Be A Liberal (1960)  WillyT   Nov-04-10 10:01 AM   #35 
  - WillyT, It's worth quoting from that wonderful link you provided. Thanks.  JDPriestly   Nov-04-10 01:50 PM   #71 
     - Anytime JD, Anytime !!!  WillyT   Nov-04-10 02:19 PM   #81 
  - Oh Liberals and Progressives are the base. Just not the whining ivory tower purists who spout crap  KittyWampus   Nov-04-10 10:10 AM   #38 
  - With the radicalization of the right  felix_numinous   Nov-04-10 11:50 AM   #40 
  - Yes. Have been for a long time. Rec'd. n/t  Catherina   Nov-04-10 11:51 AM   #41 
  - I am recommending this because it is spot on. However,  FourScore   Nov-04-10 11:55 AM   #42 
  - K&R  RetroLounge   Nov-04-10 12:32 PM   #47 
  - You do know that the largest percentage of voters in this country are independents right  TZ   Nov-04-10 12:53 PM   #50 
  - I was independent for years  ArcticFox   Nov-04-10 01:39 PM   #64 
  - So, what solutions did the Republicans offer?  JDPriestly   Nov-04-10 01:54 PM   #73 
  - Big K & R! nt  laughingliberal   Nov-04-10 01:00 PM   #52 
  - Believe in this ...  N_E_1 for Tennis   Nov-04-10 01:06 PM   #53 
  - Maybe you guys should have voted, then  Chulanowa   Nov-04-10 01:21 PM   #55 
  - We did vote. That's why the Blue Dogs went down  EFerrari   Nov-04-10 01:36 PM   #59 
  - The point in the OP is that liberals voted Democratic.  JDPriestly   Nov-04-10 01:56 PM   #74 
  - I don't feel like I have a place in the "Democratic" party  ArcticFox   Nov-04-10 01:35 PM   #58 
  - Truly great post.  BrklynLiberal   Nov-04-10 01:38 PM   #63 
  - Excellent post  malaise   Nov-04-10 01:39 PM   #65 
  - Thank you, Lyric. That was beautifully written  Blue_In_AK   Nov-04-10 01:44 PM   #68 
  - Too late to rec but I can kick!  BuelahWitch   Nov-04-10 01:56 PM   #75 
  - Wow! So beautifully written and so full of wisdom! Thank you!  DesertDiamond   Nov-04-10 02:06 PM   #78 
  - off to the top of the topic list with thee!  NuttyFluffers   Nov-05-10 04:55 AM   #84 

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