| 62. And recently, he stated cramdowns and other such imperatives would reward 'undeserving' defaulters. |
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So, there you go. His unfairness (perceived or real) seems to be fundamentally Obama.
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| -That wasn't very much fun. |
Skinner |
Nov-03-10 12:11 PM |
#0 |
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Getting spanked is never fun. K&R.... |
ColesCountyDem |
Nov-03-10 12:13 PM |
#1 |
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Well.... |
Fla_Democrat |
Nov-03-10 12:17 PM |
# |
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LOL! |
ColesCountyDem |
Nov-03-10 12:18 PM |
#11 |
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Depends on who's doing the spanking....nt |
raccoon |
Nov-03-10 02:21 PM |
#103 |
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You are so naughty ... lol! n/t |
SusanaMontana41 |
Nov-03-10 03:11 PM |
#111 |
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It really stems from the fact that Americans love them some delusion, |
stopbush |
Nov-03-10 03:10 PM |
#110 |
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They blew it. |
de novo |
Nov-03-10 12:14 PM |
#2 |
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"They"? |
aquart |
Nov-03-10 12:17 PM |
#8 |
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Yes, they who govern blew it. |
de novo |
Nov-03-10 12:19 PM |
#13 |
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the simplist of things obama did to create jobs was what right used against him this election |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 12:20 PM |
#16 |
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Unemployment is still around 10%. |
de novo |
Nov-03-10 12:24 PM |
#22 |
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well gee, we can a;ways resort to that magic wand. why didnt obama think of that? nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 12:25 PM |
#27 |
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He was effective in producing results. |
de novo |
Nov-03-10 12:29 PM |
#40 |
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Wonderfully vague... |
LanternWaste |
Nov-03-10 03:41 PM |
#115 |
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Obama was not effective in producing good results. |
friedfish2718 |
Nov-04-10 06:12 AM |
#158 |
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Or he could have told the truth that $700 billion in stimulus was too small to help a lot, |
laughingliberal |
Nov-03-10 09:22 PM |
#139 |
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It's nice to think that |
lark |
Nov-03-10 12:33 PM |
#48 |
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There was an awful lot of outside |
Mojorabbit |
Nov-03-10 12:41 PM |
#54 |
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There were a lot here in NC too. Now we first rpig led(ruled?) govt |
HillbillyBob |
Nov-04-10 10:56 AM |
#178 |
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True, while it could have been better, the stimulus created jobs |
Uzybone |
Nov-03-10 12:26 PM |
#31 |
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cash for clunkers, auto bailout, least restriction on wallstreet, credit card |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 12:28 PM |
#37 |
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The deafness in the Beltway really contributed to this, I believe |
tavalon |
Nov-03-10 12:28 PM |
#34 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Nov-03-10 12:58 PM |
#70 |
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... |
SammyWinstonJack |
Nov-03-10 01:12 PM |
#79 |
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They failed to grasp that the other side wanted to vilify them |
HillbillyBob |
Nov-04-10 10:52 AM |
#177 |
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Dupe. Please delete. n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
Nov-03-10 12:14 PM |
#3 |
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Sometimes, I Think We Should Have Learned From Bush / Cheney |
NashVegas |
Nov-03-10 12:15 PM |
#4 |
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Harry Reid winning was a very bright spot for me. Suck it, tearacists! nt |
onehandle |
Nov-03-10 12:15 PM |
#5 |
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Yeah. |
aquart |
Nov-03-10 12:16 PM |
#6 |
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Pretty good analysis overall |
LiberalEsto |
Nov-03-10 12:16 PM |
#7 |
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Obama owns the unfairness |
zipplewrath |
Nov-03-10 12:18 PM |
#9 |
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The Bailouts cost virtually nothing compared to the S&L bailout |
NJmaverick |
Nov-03-10 12:25 PM |
#26 |
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Nor care either |
zipplewrath |
Nov-03-10 12:27 PM |
#33 |
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$29 billion to prevent another Great Depression was an absolute bargain |
NJmaverick |
Nov-03-10 12:32 PM |
#46 |
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To moderate one |
zipplewrath |
Nov-03-10 01:00 PM |
#71 |
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I'm sorry but that is just a fairy tale. |
Imperialism Inc. |
Nov-03-10 01:26 PM |
#90 |
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While Repugs would have done much more harm, |
lark |
Nov-03-10 12:41 PM |
#52 |
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And recently, he stated cramdowns and other such imperatives would reward 'undeserving' defaulters. |
closeupready |
Nov-03-10 12:46 PM |
#62 |
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As oppose to those deserving bankers |
zipplewrath |
Nov-03-10 01:02 PM |
#72 |
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Exactly. |
closeupready |
Nov-03-10 01:06 PM |
#75 |
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The idea does no good at all. |
zipplewrath |
Nov-03-10 01:07 PM |
#76 |
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I think by "undeserving" defaulters, he meant property speculators. |
subterranean |
Nov-04-10 10:31 AM |
#174 |
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In the polls I saw, the economy was 60%+ as top issue |
Warren Stupidity |
Nov-03-10 12:18 PM |
#10 |
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"instead of constantly attacking President Obama"... nah, that'll still happen. ppl can multitask... |
dionysus |
Nov-03-10 12:19 PM |
#12 |
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Nicely put. |
MineralMan |
Nov-03-10 12:19 PM |
#14 |
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What you are seeing is political analysis. Interesting that you |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-03-10 09:05 PM |
#131 |
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Exactly. Apologists want to just brush it all off by citing, "the economy", as if |
Marr |
Nov-03-10 09:16 PM |
#133 |
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+ 1,000 n/t |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-03-10 09:18 PM |
#135 |
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I think Obama's biggest "failure" has been in educating the people about his policies &the problems |
housewolf |
Nov-03-10 12:19 PM |
#15 |
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It's hard to educate people who refuse to be educated |
ProudToBeBlueInRhody |
Nov-03-10 12:23 PM |
#20 |
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I disagree |
Mojorabbit |
Nov-03-10 12:44 PM |
#58 |
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exactly! |
tigereye |
Nov-03-10 12:51 PM |
#64 |
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That's my biggest beef with the party as a whole. We need to educate |
DevonRex |
Nov-03-10 12:55 PM |
#68 |
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The economy wins or loses it for both sides |
NJmaverick |
Nov-03-10 12:20 PM |
#17 |
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Wall Street is a well oiled machine. |
siligut |
Nov-03-10 12:22 PM |
#18 |
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Recommend - thanks for thoughts Skinner - we all |
xchrom |
Nov-03-10 12:22 PM |
#19 |
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Alerted, for insufficient support of the Democratic Party! |
bullwinkle428 |
Nov-03-10 12:23 PM |
#21 |
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I agree |
NoNothing |
Nov-03-10 12:24 PM |
#23 |
| -
Exactly. |
chimpymustgo |
Nov-03-10 12:35 PM |
#49 |
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Good post Skinner |
HughMoran |
Nov-03-10 12:24 PM |
#24 |
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Rec - support our President + get rid of Citizens United nt |
flamingdem |
Nov-03-10 12:24 PM |
#25 |
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Absolutely. The Citizens United case had a huge impact on this election! |
Misskittycat |
Nov-03-10 12:45 PM |
#61 |
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The mood of telectorate seems to be not so much "what have you done for me yesterday or today" |
John Commonsense |
Nov-03-10 12:25 PM |
#28 |
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I'm surprised but delighted to hear that you are giving Krugman some credit for his wisdom. |
bobbolink |
Nov-03-10 12:26 PM |
#29 |
| -
Yes, Krugman needs to not be dismissed the way he has been. |
GreenPartyVoter |
Nov-03-10 12:41 PM |
#51 |
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WISDOM is always the most needed quality. Tossing it away because of pride is a tragedy, |
bobbolink |
Nov-03-10 12:45 PM |
#59 |
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K & R your message |
lark |
Nov-03-10 12:44 PM |
#57 |
| -
Krugman was right all along |
mntleo2 |
Nov-03-10 01:09 PM |
#78 |
| -
I agree except to say it is beyond sad... it is a tragedy. One many of us saw coming. |
bobbolink |
Nov-03-10 01:12 PM |
#81 |
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Spot on! |
Myrina |
Nov-04-10 08:33 AM |
#164 |
| -
Yep, this is the best shot in the arm for unity for DU that we could have hoped for |
tavalon |
Nov-03-10 12:26 PM |
#30 |
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I'm astounded at the optimism of your last sentence. |
DevonRex |
Nov-03-10 12:27 PM |
#32 |
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agree. n/t. |
okieinpain |
Nov-03-10 12:28 PM |
#35 |
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All good points |
October |
Nov-03-10 12:28 PM |
#36 |
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I agree. And I'm not too bothered--it would be quite the miracle for |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-03-10 12:29 PM |
#38 |
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A generally good assessment. |
TexasObserver |
Nov-03-10 12:29 PM |
#39 |
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being Californian there's a bit more sunshine on my face today |
proud patriot |
Nov-03-10 12:30 PM |
#41 |
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Happy about California, too! It's glum in my part of PA |
October |
Nov-03-10 12:31 PM |
#43 |
| -
I'm so sorry |
proud patriot |
Nov-03-10 12:42 PM |
#55 |
| -
Could be worse you could be in AZ. |
lonestarnot |
Nov-03-10 10:35 PM |
#144 |
| -
wow, it's amazing. I was thinking about when I canvassed from Brown here |
tigereye |
Nov-03-10 12:54 PM |
#66 |
| -
Being Coloradan, I'm so very happy we dodged 2 major bullets: Buck and Tancredo. |
DevonRex |
Nov-03-10 01:05 PM |
#74 |
| -
I'm quite happy to be a Delawarean today! |
Mad_Dem_X |
Nov-03-10 03:37 PM |
#114 |
| -
The economy will get better, but it's largely because of the policies of the last two years. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Nov-03-10 12:31 PM |
#42 |
| -
I know I'm acting like a major pest about this, but now that we've got our work cut out for us |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-03-10 12:31 PM |
#44 |
| -
no, it was not very much fun... |
handmade34 |
Nov-03-10 12:31 PM |
#45 |
| -
Kicking Boner every day is going to become a new sport for me. |
Dappleganger |
Nov-03-10 12:32 PM |
#47 |
| -
But of course! We'll make however much lemonade we can extract from the situation! |
Buns_of_Fire |
Nov-03-10 05:22 PM |
#121 |
| -
I pretty much agree with everything you said |
blogslut |
Nov-03-10 12:40 PM |
#50 |
| -
Hey, KIDS! We actually DID GREAT! |
BanTheGOP |
Nov-03-10 12:41 PM |
#53 |
| -
They took out Feingold. That is counting about 10x for me today. |
AllyCat |
Nov-03-10 12:45 PM |
#60 |
| -
Boy I agree. Wisconsin is just desolate, IMHO. |
Lifelong Protester |
Nov-03-10 02:44 PM |
#106 |
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I rec your post! It was NOT the "tsunami" the MSM kept hammering. |
stubtoe |
Nov-03-10 01:13 PM |
#82 |
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Thanks Skinner. I'm feeling pretty crummy today in WI. Your post makes me realize |
AllyCat |
Nov-03-10 12:43 PM |
#56 |
| -
Well, shit happens. |
Naturyl |
Nov-03-10 12:51 PM |
#63 |
| -
Dear Mr. President |
KT2000 |
Nov-03-10 12:51 PM |
#65 |
| -
"It'll be refreshing to see people on DU going after Republicans a little more often.. |
Scurrilous |
Nov-03-10 12:55 PM |
#67 |
| -
But when does that start exactly? |
DevonRex |
Nov-03-10 12:57 PM |
#69 |
| -
LOL |
Scurrilous |
Nov-03-10 10:37 PM |
#145 |
| -
Good analysis and I broadly agree. Two factors you didn't bring in that I find |
NRaleighLiberal |
Nov-03-10 01:05 PM |
#73 |
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Couldn't have said it better. |
DevonRex |
Nov-03-10 01:09 PM |
#77 |
| -
That's sad. As long as Dems continue blaming it on "the media" et al, nothing at all will change. |
bobbolink |
Nov-03-10 01:16 PM |
#84 |
| -
I am not blaming it on the media. I noted it is a parallel factor and can't be ignored. |
NRaleighLiberal |
Nov-03-10 01:18 PM |
#86 |
| -
And the lack of intelligent analysis by folks like Tweety. |
DevonRex |
Nov-03-10 01:24 PM |
#88 |
| -
I'm glad to hear that. However, I repeat.... the "ignoring" was done by those in power.... in the |
bobbolink |
Nov-03-10 01:24 PM |
#89 |
| -
I am not sure that the Citizens United decision had a large impact this election... |
Skinner |
Nov-03-10 01:18 PM |
#85 |
| -
Absolutely agree with you. On whether the CU decision gave the right an advantage.. |
NRaleighLiberal |
Nov-03-10 01:20 PM |
#87 |
| -
Good post, Skinner. |
mvd |
Nov-03-10 01:12 PM |
#80 |
| -
My advice? |
BeFree |
Nov-03-10 01:14 PM |
#83 |
| -
True, now that we have our old enemy back in power. We can all |
Rex |
Nov-03-10 01:26 PM |
#91 |
| -
My guess is that 95% of voters don't even know what the "public option" is. |
Skinner |
Nov-03-10 01:31 PM |
#93 |
| -
I disagree. The Public Option was a big deal, and a lot of folks-rightly or wrongly-felt had. |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-03-10 01:37 PM |
#96 |
| -
I have to admit you might be right about Sharron Angle, she was |
Rex |
Nov-03-10 05:04 PM |
#120 |
| -
It was more than Angle being crazy. Harry carried the county where she was elected to the |
laughingliberal |
Nov-03-10 09:19 PM |
#136 |
| -
Wow. I have to admit that is an amazing statistic. |
Rex |
Nov-03-10 09:44 PM |
#142 |
| -
People may not know what a public option is now but they'd have known if they got one and they'd... |
laughingliberal |
Nov-03-10 09:16 PM |
#134 |
| -
+6.02e23 |
MannyGoldstein |
Nov-04-10 06:53 AM |
#159 |
| -
We are losing these elections because |
tiredtoo |
Nov-03-10 01:30 PM |
#92 |
| -
We should have assumed the GOP would try to obstruct, ditched the filibuster at the outset |
Warren DeMontague |
Nov-03-10 01:34 PM |
#94 |
| -
I guess we see things very differently |
Vinnie From Indy |
Nov-03-10 01:34 PM |
#95 |
| -
Agree with you. He tried to work with many who consider him a... |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Nov-03-10 03:59 PM |
#116 |
| -
If we were more into guns, more anti-gay, more pro-war, more low tax |
Evasporque |
Nov-03-10 01:49 PM |
#97 |
| -
Good points. I think the approach in the next two years may change a bit, though, by necessity. |
pinto |
Nov-03-10 01:51 PM |
#98 |
| -
Two major points to consider, folks. |
ProudDad |
Nov-03-10 01:56 PM |
#99 |
| -
No it wasn't. |
Better Believe It |
Nov-03-10 01:59 PM |
#100 |
| -
It was fun in California. |
Liberal_in_LA |
Nov-03-10 02:02 PM |
#101 |
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This is the best explanation of last night's results I've read. I agree. |
Tatiana |
Nov-03-10 02:19 PM |
#102 |
| -
War is not even mentioned. |
rug |
Nov-03-10 02:42 PM |
#104 |
| -
Thank you. |
Dystopian |
Nov-03-10 09:01 PM |
#129 |
| -
+1 n/t |
Catherina |
Nov-03-10 09:29 PM |
#140 |
| -
If you aren't unemployed, you probably know someone who is. |
frustrated_lefty |
Nov-03-10 02:44 PM |
#105 |
| -
There is a bright side. |
Lasher |
Nov-03-10 03:02 PM |
#107 |
| -
People need Jobs Jobs Jobs does seem to be the main lesson. |
Imperialism Inc. |
Nov-03-10 03:07 PM |
#108 |
| -
There's a story on yahoo.com that quotes a chastened Obama as saying, |
crim son |
Nov-03-10 03:09 PM |
#109 |
| -
Not here...no fun at all |
Tsiyu |
Nov-03-10 03:18 PM |
#112 |
| -
The recession |
creon |
Nov-03-10 03:26 PM |
#113 |
| -
Rewarding fraud and theft never works.... |
LeftHandPath |
Nov-03-10 04:36 PM |
#117 |
| -
No National Recovery Act |
upi402 |
Nov-03-10 04:42 PM |
#118 |
| -
I am broken today. Torn to bits. Driven to tears. |
PeaceNikki |
Nov-03-10 04:44 PM |
#119 |
| -
I feel the same way ~ something is very wrong with this country |
sabrina 1 |
Nov-03-10 09:22 PM |
#138 |
| -
I'm very happy that MD stayed pretty well blue. |
BlueMTexpat |
Nov-03-10 05:48 PM |
#122 |
| -
Well For Those Of Us Who Live In Florida, THIS Election Seems To Have |
ChiciB1 |
Nov-04-10 09:45 AM |
#168 |
| -
Please know that my heart goes out to you! |
BlueMTexpat |
Nov-04-10 04:50 PM |
#186 |
| -
Be mindful when sticking a boot in their ass ... |
GeorgeGist |
Nov-03-10 06:02 PM |
#123 |
| -
Be mindful when sticking a boot in their ass ... |
GeorgeGist |
Nov-03-10 06:02 PM |
#124 |
| -
Two years with nothing to show for it will sound pretty good after we've tried two years |
eomer |
Nov-03-10 06:20 PM |
#125 |
| -
omg! |
docvet |
Nov-03-10 07:03 PM |
#126 |
| -
Here is my prediction for 2012... |
KeyserSoze87 |
Nov-03-10 08:53 PM |
#127 |
| -
How bizarre..... |
Dystopian |
Nov-03-10 08:55 PM |
#128 |
| -
Great post |
Haole Girl |
Nov-03-10 09:02 PM |
#130 |
| -
Nice post. Hope everyone stays positive and works together for a better future. Democrats have a |
Cognitive_Resonance |
Nov-03-10 09:08 PM |
#132 |
| -
Thank you for your candor, Skinner |
Samantha |
Nov-03-10 09:21 PM |
#137 |
| -
Try living in Ohio.... |
femrap |
Nov-03-10 09:39 PM |
#141 |
| -
Well. We Need Tourists Down Here In Florida... Like To Come Down |
ChiciB1 |
Nov-04-10 09:52 AM |
#170 |
| -
"In hindsight, I think we might not have done so badly |
donheld |
Nov-03-10 10:18 PM |
#143 |
| -
I just saw a thread regarding election rigging. |
HuckleB |
Nov-03-10 10:41 PM |
#146 |
| -
imagine having to sit through Florida's returns at a county election party... many got drunk. |
Divine Discontent |
Nov-03-10 10:57 PM |
#147 |
| -
"At least we have John Boehner and the Republicans to kick around for a while." |
mzmolly |
Nov-03-10 11:27 PM |
#148 |
| -
No we do not have Boehner to kick around on here. Wish you would |
akbacchus_BC |
Nov-03-10 11:30 PM |
#149 |
| -
Agree |
mogster |
Nov-04-10 12:51 AM |
#150 |
| -
It's not republicans that we're kicking around now |
lillypaddle |
Nov-04-10 04:33 AM |
#151 |
| -
K&R! Thank you for weighing in on all this... |
Rhiannon12866 |
Nov-04-10 04:41 AM |
#152 |
| -
Well, the GOP play hardball, so he better do a 180 fast or he will look extremely weak. He needs to |
deacon |
Nov-04-10 05:29 AM |
#153 |
| -
I have to add that the only way to fight against the money bags is to move left. |
deacon |
Nov-04-10 05:31 AM |
#154 |
| -
I disagree on a couple of points... |
shaayecanaan |
Nov-04-10 05:42 AM |
#155 |
| -
From this old okies eyes this is what I see |
madokie |
Nov-04-10 05:54 AM |
#156 |
| -
+1 - If anything good comes of this, it will be giving the dems a rallying point |
Politicub |
Nov-04-10 05:58 AM |
#157 |
| -
I agree.. Can't wait for the pity party to cease. |
rainlillie |
Nov-04-10 06:56 AM |
#160 |
| -
the problem is that Obama and the Dems took for granted |
SemperEadem |
Nov-04-10 07:09 AM |
#161 |
| -
You think the election wasn't much *fun*? |
peace frog |
Nov-04-10 07:16 AM |
#162 |
| -
Yeah, right. The Republicans are going to start working with the President. |
Bette Noir |
Nov-04-10 07:55 AM |
#163 |
| -
media already pushing this |
lunasun |
Nov-04-10 09:02 AM |
#165 |
| -
Skinner, this is a first for me: |
DFW |
Nov-04-10 09:30 AM |
#166 |
| -
Notably absent from your post |
67 Mercury |
Nov-04-10 09:38 AM |
#167 |
| -
Agree on All Points, Skinner |
On the Road |
Nov-04-10 09:50 AM |
#169 |
| -
I think the Dems lost because their messaging sucks. Why weren't they pointing out that the Repugs |
jillan |
Nov-04-10 09:57 AM |
#171 |
| -
Harry Reid's messaging didn't suck. |
subterranean |
Nov-04-10 10:46 AM |
#176 |
| -
The problem re the bailouts can be summed up with a quote from the |
RaleighNCDUer |
Nov-04-10 10:16 AM |
#172 |
| -
Even if the bank bailouts were necessary, they never whould have been done without pre-conditions, |
grahamhgreen |
Nov-04-10 10:21 AM |
#173 |
| -
"It does not help that Wall Street - - the people who got us into |
OhioBlue |
Nov-04-10 10:31 AM |
#175 |
| -
We're going to be fine. And we will come back. Thank you for everything, Skinner. |
Aristus |
Nov-04-10 10:57 AM |
#179 |
| -
2 out of 3 isn't bad.... Bud gridlock here we come. The president better tap into |
glowing |
Nov-04-10 11:16 AM |
#180 |
| -
Obama knew and still knows what he's got to do. |
YOY |
Nov-04-10 11:24 AM |
#181 |
| -
Obama should have been more like Bush, lol |
IDHow |
Nov-04-10 11:26 AM |
#182 |
| -
It wasn't fun, and it also wasn't a surprise. The steady |
SaveOurDemocracy |
Nov-04-10 11:28 AM |
#183 |
| -
No chance of the economy improving |
Hawkowl |
Nov-04-10 11:50 AM |
#184 |
| -
Skinner, I think if you took the time to read the posts over in the economics forum, you would |
truedelphi |
Nov-04-10 01:29 PM |
#185 |
| -
Nice post nt |
CommonSensePLZ |
Nov-04-10 10:48 PM |
#187 |
| -
Thank you for your erudite message. |
political_Dem |
Nov-04-10 10:59 PM |
#188 |
| -
People do stupid things in bad times. Look at Germany in the 1930's. |
David Zephyr |
Nov-04-10 11:03 PM |
#189 |
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