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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 12:07 PM
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59. reason
refreshing. i agree. that is how i approach it.
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  -if it is all obamas fault for not being progressive, why did feingold and grayson lose? seabeyond  Nov-03-10 09:59 AM   #0 
  - Money and bullshit talked.  hobbit709   Nov-03-10 10:01 AM   #1 
  - But aren't people SO HUNGRY for a progressive that that wouldn't matter? n/t  LoZoccolo   Nov-03-10 10:03 AM   #4 
  - It doesn't matter the first battles were lost in 1965, the big  pokercat999   Nov-03-10 10:24 AM   #27 
  - he got a lot. he also had rw corporate money against him. and issue that is our problem now. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:05 AM   #7 
  - My guess is, Feingold's just been in the Senate long enough that  TwilightGardener   Nov-03-10 10:03 AM   #2 
  - It's not about going to the left.  young but wise   Nov-03-10 10:03 AM   #3 
  - yes. and then there is reality. but yes, people are fearful and hurting and uninformed. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:04 AM   #6 
     - Reality  RobinA   Nov-03-10 11:26 AM   #51 
        - Smart plan  kctim   Nov-03-10 11:38 AM   #54 
        - most dems you know are against single-payer?  Hannah Bell   Nov-03-10 12:09 PM   #61 
           - Absolutely  kctim   Nov-03-10 12:47 PM   #65 
        - reason  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 12:07 PM   #59 
  - Because DLC hacks like Van Hollen and Menendez diverted all the money to DLC candidates  Yeshuah Ben Joseph   Nov-03-10 10:04 AM   #5 
  - feingold got support. he also had corporate rw attacking him and way over spent  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:06 AM   #8 
  - Yep. Outspent FOUR to ONE.  Kurovski   Nov-03-10 11:45 AM   #56 
     - yup, exactly. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 12:07 PM   #60 
  - And I would suspect that you have some handy fax n' figures to back that  cliffordu   Nov-03-10 10:06 AM   #9 
  - Rush Limbaugh and FOX News  Vinnie From Indy   Nov-03-10 10:07 AM   #10 
  - yes. and create a false problem is not going to help finding the solutions. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:11 AM   #14 
  - rush and fox news were around in 2006 and 2008 and we picked up 50 plus seats  onenote   Nov-03-10 11:41 AM   #55 
  - I don't know where you were but where I live this was a referendum on Obama/Pelosi  Winterblues   Nov-03-10 10:08 AM   #11 
  - North Carolina?  WorseBeforeBetter   Nov-03-10 12:16 PM   #63 
  - what a surprise repugs used the evil and dreaded pelosi and muslim obama to get votes. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 12:43 PM   #64 
  - I don't think it's lack of progressive laws per say -  TBF   Nov-03-10 10:09 AM   #12 
  - you keep saying he did not pass progressive law but unwiling to educate yourself. what does that  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:13 AM   #17 
     - Again with the nasty personal attacks - you and I must  TBF   Nov-03-10 10:16 AM   #20 
        - what you dont get is it is not personal attack. you say obama passed no progressive law. that is  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:18 AM   #22 
           - Sorry we disagree but your attacks are unneccessary.  TBF   Nov-03-10 10:20 AM   #24 
  - They were marginalized by their own party  zipplewrath   Nov-03-10 10:10 AM   #13 
  - +1000--Winner!  Barack_America   Nov-03-10 10:12 AM   #15 
  - so it had nothing to do with HUGE influx of corporate money? control of media  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:15 AM   #19 
     - It was Obama  zipplewrath   Nov-03-10 10:24 AM   #26 
     - This pretty much encapsulates your view. If it sucks, "It was Obama"  cottonseed   Nov-03-10 10:55 AM   #46 
        - You're still here  zipplewrath   Nov-03-10 11:27 AM   #52 
     - Um, why do you think they were marginalized?  Barack_America   Nov-03-10 10:39 AM   #33 
        - the rest of the dem party did not embrace the supreme court ruling.  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:42 AM   #36 
           - Um, there is in fact a large amount of corporate money going into the Dem party...  Barack_America   Nov-03-10 10:50 AM   #42 
              - that is a different issue than the corporate money spent on campaign against these two people. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:51 AM   #43 
                 - Sure it is. nt  Barack_America   Nov-03-10 10:56 AM   #47 
  - They became collateral  FLAprogressive   Nov-03-10 10:12 AM   #16 
  - they became victims of corporate paid ads. they became victim of demonizing obama all the time  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:19 AM   #23 
  - Well The Problem Start Form The People At The Top  mazzarro   Nov-03-10 10:15 AM   #18 
  - Sold Out  Kalun D   Nov-03-10 10:17 AM   #21 
  - i dont knwo about greyson, but feingold candidate was a piece of shit.  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:22 AM   #25 
     - Dems didn't vote  Kalun D   Nov-03-10 10:32 AM   #29 
  - K&R!  JTFrog   Nov-03-10 10:31 AM   #28 
  - Why? Easy...  anaxarchos   Nov-03-10 10:36 AM   #30 
  - so the proganda news and the corporate spending in these areas, and the misinformation  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:40 AM   #34 
     - If you want to talk to yourself, feel free...  anaxarchos   Nov-03-10 10:53 AM   #45 
  - I've heard that Feingold hitched his wagon to Obamacare...that probably was a mistake. nt  Romulox   Nov-03-10 10:37 AM   #31 
  - yes. it's totally obama's fault he lost.  dionysus   Nov-03-10 10:40 AM   #35 
  - Word order and choice have a profound impact on sentence meaning.  Romulox   Nov-03-10 10:45 AM   #40 
  - and those that ran away from obamacare got shot down too. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:42 AM   #37 
  - Grayson is not progressive, just window dresses. Feingold is sad collateral damage  Catherina   Nov-03-10 10:38 AM   #32 
  - and those that lost because they were voting against the stimulus and obamacare? nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:43 AM   #38 
  - It's amazing how rather than re-examine your own assumptions about healthcare  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 11:49 AM   #58 
  - It is Obama's fault  Angry Dragon   Nov-03-10 10:45 AM   #39 
  - bush led, but wrong, you say success. he lost congress. obama passed progressive bills  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:46 AM   #41 
  - I never said bush was a success. I said he led.  Angry Dragon   Nov-03-10 11:24 AM   #50 
  - There is some truth to that but it can't be all his fault. He got as  Fire1   Nov-03-10 10:53 AM   #44 
     - We are at a crossroads in this country  Angry Dragon   Nov-03-10 11:30 AM   #53 
  - Obama is responsible for everything bad. Especially when progressive pinups get their asses kicked.  cottonseed   Nov-03-10 10:57 AM   #48 
  - Not "all" Obamas fault...but the progressive voices  Desertrose   Nov-03-10 11:03 AM   #49 
  - Because the progressive agenda didn't progress?  krispos42   Nov-03-10 11:46 AM   #57 
  - Repubes get nasty and get votes, Dems get nasty and get demonized  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 12:11 PM   #62 
  - An aberration  gratuitous   Nov-03-10 01:13 PM   #66 
 

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