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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 10:15 AM
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19. so it had nothing to do with HUGE influx of corporate money? control of media
with message for last two years? the fucked up situation bush gave us?

the blue dogs themselves going against obama?

it was all obama?
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  -if it is all obamas fault for not being progressive, why did feingold and grayson lose? seabeyond  Nov-03-10 09:59 AM   #0 
  - Money and bullshit talked.  hobbit709   Nov-03-10 10:01 AM   #1 
  - But aren't people SO HUNGRY for a progressive that that wouldn't matter? n/t  LoZoccolo   Nov-03-10 10:03 AM   #4 
  - It doesn't matter the first battles were lost in 1965, the big  pokercat999   Nov-03-10 10:24 AM   #27 
  - he got a lot. he also had rw corporate money against him. and issue that is our problem now. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:05 AM   #7 
  - My guess is, Feingold's just been in the Senate long enough that  TwilightGardener   Nov-03-10 10:03 AM   #2 
  - It's not about going to the left.  young but wise   Nov-03-10 10:03 AM   #3 
  - yes. and then there is reality. but yes, people are fearful and hurting and uninformed. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:04 AM   #6 
     - Reality  RobinA   Nov-03-10 11:26 AM   #51 
        - Smart plan  kctim   Nov-03-10 11:38 AM   #54 
        - most dems you know are against single-payer?  Hannah Bell   Nov-03-10 12:09 PM   #61 
           - Absolutely  kctim   Nov-03-10 12:47 PM   #65 
        - reason  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 12:07 PM   #59 
  - Because DLC hacks like Van Hollen and Menendez diverted all the money to DLC candidates  Yeshuah Ben Joseph   Nov-03-10 10:04 AM   #5 
  - feingold got support. he also had corporate rw attacking him and way over spent  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:06 AM   #8 
  - Yep. Outspent FOUR to ONE.  Kurovski   Nov-03-10 11:45 AM   #56 
     - yup, exactly. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 12:07 PM   #60 
  - And I would suspect that you have some handy fax n' figures to back that  cliffordu   Nov-03-10 10:06 AM   #9 
  - Rush Limbaugh and FOX News  Vinnie From Indy   Nov-03-10 10:07 AM   #10 
  - yes. and create a false problem is not going to help finding the solutions. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:11 AM   #14 
  - rush and fox news were around in 2006 and 2008 and we picked up 50 plus seats  onenote   Nov-03-10 11:41 AM   #55 
  - I don't know where you were but where I live this was a referendum on Obama/Pelosi  Winterblues   Nov-03-10 10:08 AM   #11 
  - North Carolina?  WorseBeforeBetter   Nov-03-10 12:16 PM   #63 
  - what a surprise repugs used the evil and dreaded pelosi and muslim obama to get votes. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 12:43 PM   #64 
  - I don't think it's lack of progressive laws per say -  TBF   Nov-03-10 10:09 AM   #12 
  - you keep saying he did not pass progressive law but unwiling to educate yourself. what does that  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:13 AM   #17 
     - Again with the nasty personal attacks - you and I must  TBF   Nov-03-10 10:16 AM   #20 
        - what you dont get is it is not personal attack. you say obama passed no progressive law. that is  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:18 AM   #22 
           - Sorry we disagree but your attacks are unneccessary.  TBF   Nov-03-10 10:20 AM   #24 
  - They were marginalized by their own party  zipplewrath   Nov-03-10 10:10 AM   #13 
  - +1000--Winner!  Barack_America   Nov-03-10 10:12 AM   #15 
  - so it had nothing to do with HUGE influx of corporate money? control of media  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:15 AM   #19 
     - It was Obama  zipplewrath   Nov-03-10 10:24 AM   #26 
     - This pretty much encapsulates your view. If it sucks, "It was Obama"  cottonseed   Nov-03-10 10:55 AM   #46 
        - You're still here  zipplewrath   Nov-03-10 11:27 AM   #52 
     - Um, why do you think they were marginalized?  Barack_America   Nov-03-10 10:39 AM   #33 
        - the rest of the dem party did not embrace the supreme court ruling.  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:42 AM   #36 
           - Um, there is in fact a large amount of corporate money going into the Dem party...  Barack_America   Nov-03-10 10:50 AM   #42 
              - that is a different issue than the corporate money spent on campaign against these two people. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:51 AM   #43 
                 - Sure it is. nt  Barack_America   Nov-03-10 10:56 AM   #47 
  - They became collateral  FLAprogressive   Nov-03-10 10:12 AM   #16 
  - they became victims of corporate paid ads. they became victim of demonizing obama all the time  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:19 AM   #23 
  - Well The Problem Start Form The People At The Top  mazzarro   Nov-03-10 10:15 AM   #18 
  - Sold Out  Kalun D   Nov-03-10 10:17 AM   #21 
  - i dont knwo about greyson, but feingold candidate was a piece of shit.  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:22 AM   #25 
     - Dems didn't vote  Kalun D   Nov-03-10 10:32 AM   #29 
  - K&R!  JTFrog   Nov-03-10 10:31 AM   #28 
  - Why? Easy...  anaxarchos   Nov-03-10 10:36 AM   #30 
  - so the proganda news and the corporate spending in these areas, and the misinformation  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:40 AM   #34 
     - If you want to talk to yourself, feel free...  anaxarchos   Nov-03-10 10:53 AM   #45 
  - I've heard that Feingold hitched his wagon to Obamacare...that probably was a mistake. nt  Romulox   Nov-03-10 10:37 AM   #31 
  - yes. it's totally obama's fault he lost.  dionysus   Nov-03-10 10:40 AM   #35 
  - Word order and choice have a profound impact on sentence meaning.  Romulox   Nov-03-10 10:45 AM   #40 
  - and those that ran away from obamacare got shot down too. nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:42 AM   #37 
  - Grayson is not progressive, just window dresses. Feingold is sad collateral damage  Catherina   Nov-03-10 10:38 AM   #32 
  - and those that lost because they were voting against the stimulus and obamacare? nt  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:43 AM   #38 
  - It's amazing how rather than re-examine your own assumptions about healthcare  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 11:49 AM   #58 
  - It is Obama's fault  Angry Dragon   Nov-03-10 10:45 AM   #39 
  - bush led, but wrong, you say success. he lost congress. obama passed progressive bills  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 10:46 AM   #41 
  - I never said bush was a success. I said he led.  Angry Dragon   Nov-03-10 11:24 AM   #50 
  - There is some truth to that but it can't be all his fault. He got as  Fire1   Nov-03-10 10:53 AM   #44 
     - We are at a crossroads in this country  Angry Dragon   Nov-03-10 11:30 AM   #53 
  - Obama is responsible for everything bad. Especially when progressive pinups get their asses kicked.  cottonseed   Nov-03-10 10:57 AM   #48 
  - Not "all" Obamas fault...but the progressive voices  Desertrose   Nov-03-10 11:03 AM   #49 
  - Because the progressive agenda didn't progress?  krispos42   Nov-03-10 11:46 AM   #57 
  - Repubes get nasty and get votes, Dems get nasty and get demonized  seabeyond   Nov-03-10 12:11 PM   #62 
  - An aberration  gratuitous   Nov-03-10 01:13 PM   #66 

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