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Wed Nov-03-10 10:15 AM
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| 19. so it had nothing to do with HUGE influx of corporate money? control of media |
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with message for last two years? the fucked up situation bush gave us?
the blue dogs themselves going against obama?
it was all obama?
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| -if it is all obamas fault for not being progressive, why did feingold and grayson lose? |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 09:59 AM |
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Money and bullshit talked. |
hobbit709 |
Nov-03-10 10:01 AM |
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But aren't people SO HUNGRY for a progressive that that wouldn't matter? n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Nov-03-10 10:03 AM |
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It doesn't matter the first battles were lost in 1965, the big |
pokercat999 |
Nov-03-10 10:24 AM |
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he got a lot. he also had rw corporate money against him. and issue that is our problem now. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:05 AM |
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My guess is, Feingold's just been in the Senate long enough that |
TwilightGardener |
Nov-03-10 10:03 AM |
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It's not about going to the left. |
young but wise |
Nov-03-10 10:03 AM |
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yes. and then there is reality. but yes, people are fearful and hurting and uninformed. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:04 AM |
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Reality |
RobinA |
Nov-03-10 11:26 AM |
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Smart plan |
kctim |
Nov-03-10 11:38 AM |
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most dems you know are against single-payer? |
Hannah Bell |
Nov-03-10 12:09 PM |
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Absolutely |
kctim |
Nov-03-10 12:47 PM |
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reason |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 12:07 PM |
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Because DLC hacks like Van Hollen and Menendez diverted all the money to DLC candidates |
Yeshuah Ben Joseph |
Nov-03-10 10:04 AM |
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feingold got support. he also had corporate rw attacking him and way over spent |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:06 AM |
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Yep. Outspent FOUR to ONE. |
Kurovski |
Nov-03-10 11:45 AM |
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yup, exactly. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 12:07 PM |
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And I would suspect that you have some handy fax n' figures to back that |
cliffordu |
Nov-03-10 10:06 AM |
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Rush Limbaugh and FOX News |
Vinnie From Indy |
Nov-03-10 10:07 AM |
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yes. and create a false problem is not going to help finding the solutions. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:11 AM |
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rush and fox news were around in 2006 and 2008 and we picked up 50 plus seats |
onenote |
Nov-03-10 11:41 AM |
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I don't know where you were but where I live this was a referendum on Obama/Pelosi |
Winterblues |
Nov-03-10 10:08 AM |
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North Carolina? |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Nov-03-10 12:16 PM |
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what a surprise repugs used the evil and dreaded pelosi and muslim obama to get votes. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 12:43 PM |
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I don't think it's lack of progressive laws per say - |
TBF |
Nov-03-10 10:09 AM |
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you keep saying he did not pass progressive law but unwiling to educate yourself. what does that |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:13 AM |
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Again with the nasty personal attacks - you and I must |
TBF |
Nov-03-10 10:16 AM |
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what you dont get is it is not personal attack. you say obama passed no progressive law. that is |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:18 AM |
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Sorry we disagree but your attacks are unneccessary. |
TBF |
Nov-03-10 10:20 AM |
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They were marginalized by their own party |
zipplewrath |
Nov-03-10 10:10 AM |
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+1000--Winner! |
Barack_America |
Nov-03-10 10:12 AM |
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so it had nothing to do with HUGE influx of corporate money? control of media |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:15 AM |
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It was Obama |
zipplewrath |
Nov-03-10 10:24 AM |
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This pretty much encapsulates your view. If it sucks, "It was Obama" |
cottonseed |
Nov-03-10 10:55 AM |
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You're still here |
zipplewrath |
Nov-03-10 11:27 AM |
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Um, why do you think they were marginalized? |
Barack_America |
Nov-03-10 10:39 AM |
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the rest of the dem party did not embrace the supreme court ruling. |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:42 AM |
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Um, there is in fact a large amount of corporate money going into the Dem party... |
Barack_America |
Nov-03-10 10:50 AM |
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that is a different issue than the corporate money spent on campaign against these two people. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:51 AM |
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Sure it is. nt |
Barack_America |
Nov-03-10 10:56 AM |
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They became collateral |
FLAprogressive |
Nov-03-10 10:12 AM |
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they became victims of corporate paid ads. they became victim of demonizing obama all the time |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:19 AM |
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Well The Problem Start Form The People At The Top |
mazzarro |
Nov-03-10 10:15 AM |
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Sold Out |
Kalun D |
Nov-03-10 10:17 AM |
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i dont knwo about greyson, but feingold candidate was a piece of shit. |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:22 AM |
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Dems didn't vote |
Kalun D |
Nov-03-10 10:32 AM |
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K&R! |
JTFrog |
Nov-03-10 10:31 AM |
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Why? Easy... |
anaxarchos |
Nov-03-10 10:36 AM |
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so the proganda news and the corporate spending in these areas, and the misinformation |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:40 AM |
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If you want to talk to yourself, feel free... |
anaxarchos |
Nov-03-10 10:53 AM |
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I've heard that Feingold hitched his wagon to Obamacare...that probably was a mistake. nt |
Romulox |
Nov-03-10 10:37 AM |
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yes. it's totally obama's fault he lost. |
dionysus |
Nov-03-10 10:40 AM |
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Word order and choice have a profound impact on sentence meaning. |
Romulox |
Nov-03-10 10:45 AM |
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and those that ran away from obamacare got shot down too. nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:42 AM |
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Grayson is not progressive, just window dresses. Feingold is sad collateral damage |
Catherina |
Nov-03-10 10:38 AM |
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and those that lost because they were voting against the stimulus and obamacare? nt |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:43 AM |
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It's amazing how rather than re-examine your own assumptions about healthcare |
BzaDem |
Nov-03-10 11:49 AM |
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It is Obama's fault |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-03-10 10:45 AM |
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bush led, but wrong, you say success. he lost congress. obama passed progressive bills |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 10:46 AM |
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I never said bush was a success. I said he led. |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-03-10 11:24 AM |
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There is some truth to that but it can't be all his fault. He got as |
Fire1 |
Nov-03-10 10:53 AM |
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We are at a crossroads in this country |
Angry Dragon |
Nov-03-10 11:30 AM |
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Obama is responsible for everything bad. Especially when progressive pinups get their asses kicked. |
cottonseed |
Nov-03-10 10:57 AM |
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Not "all" Obamas fault...but the progressive voices |
Desertrose |
Nov-03-10 11:03 AM |
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Because the progressive agenda didn't progress? |
krispos42 |
Nov-03-10 11:46 AM |
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Repubes get nasty and get votes, Dems get nasty and get demonized |
seabeyond |
Nov-03-10 12:11 PM |
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An aberration |
gratuitous |
Nov-03-10 01:13 PM |
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