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Response to Reply #68
106. I have no love for ralph
Edited on Tue Nov-02-10 07:59 PM by Confusious
but he's right. If the dems had more guts, we wouldn't be having this problem.

Mostly obama and harry reid going for half ass measures..
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  -Ralph Nader: Dems Face Losses to "Most Craven Republican Party in History" YankeeLeft7x  Nov-02-10 12:42 PM   #0 
  - Recommend. nt  TBF   Nov-02-10 12:43 PM   #1 
  - ralph should know about craven, the bastard, STFU, Ralph.  roguevalley   Nov-02-10 04:55 PM   #68 
     - you are part of the problem. nt  tomp   Nov-02-10 07:47 PM   #101 
     - and you make me laugh. I am a hard left dem who was a member  roguevalley   Nov-03-10 12:25 AM   #135 
        - Just because Nader went asshat, doesn't mean the words he spake are wrong...  LooseWilly   Nov-03-10 03:07 AM   #154 
        - He's at least right about this, don't know about all of that  CommonSensePLZ   Nov-03-10 09:53 AM   #227 
        - OK, but is he correct or not in what he says here? nt  guruoo   Nov-03-10 11:39 AM   #249 
     - I have no love for ralph  Confusious   Nov-02-10 07:56 PM   #106 
        - Nader gave the white house to Bush in 2000  txlibdem   Nov-03-10 07:32 AM   #192 
           - +1  BlancheSplanchnik   Nov-03-10 08:05 AM   #198 
           - :-)  txlibdem   Nov-03-10 08:31 AM   #204 
              - for t hose of us who are interested in truth, anyway.  BlancheSplanchnik   Nov-03-10 08:47 AM   #211 
                 - for t hose of us who are interested in truth, anyway.  AlbertCat   Nov-03-10 09:26 AM   #222 
                    - The truth gets in the way of a good hippie punching.  Ignis   Nov-03-10 01:05 PM   #301 
                    - yep  BlancheSplanchnik   Nov-03-10 04:35 PM   #329 
           - Yeah but  NewYorkerfromMass   Nov-03-10 08:33 AM   #206 
           - Yep.  peace frog   Nov-03-10 08:41 AM   #209 
           - It's Nader's "credibility" which creates fear for Repugs and Dems ....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 10:58 AM   #236 
              - Nader can pontificate to his gingantic ego's content  peace frog   Nov-03-10 12:10 PM   #277 
                 - If YOU weren't listening, you wouldn't be posting on this thread ... nor  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 01:36 PM   #311 
                    - It's a simple statement of fact  peace frog   Nov-03-10 02:10 PM   #314 
                       - Rather, looks more like your "outsized ego" may be driving your anti-Nader comments .....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 02:16 PM   #315 
                          - Project much?  peace frog   Nov-03-10 02:18 PM   #316 
                             - Were you "projecting" in the way you spoke of Nader ... ???  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 03:52 PM   #326 
                                - Well, now I know projection is your problem  peace frog   Nov-03-10 04:21 PM   #327 
           - I didn't know he was paid by the Bushies...  PerpetuallyDazed   Nov-03-10 08:58 AM   #213 
           - Bush would not have won against Gore.  AlbertCat   Nov-03-10 09:22 AM   #220 
           - Supreme Court had nothing to do with it .... nor  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 10:36 AM   #232 
           - I know this will be lost in the hundreds of posts  jimmil   Nov-03-10 12:07 PM   #273 
           - Gore actually won anyway. nt  Enthusiast   Nov-03-10 12:35 PM   #293 
           - K&R -- terrific comments --  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 01:41 PM   #312 
           - Don't forget the 10's of thousands removed by Choicepoint for being "felons"...  JanMichael   Nov-03-10 09:46 PM   #344 
           - I Agree  WizardLeft62   Nov-06-10 01:24 AM   #352 
           - +2  MidwestTransplant   Nov-03-10 12:50 PM   #298 
           - Give it a rest, stupid  ProudDad   Nov-03-10 01:03 PM   #300 
           - goddamn!  docvet   Nov-03-10 02:04 PM   #313 
              - It's easier to be simple-minded about Gore's and the DLC's fuckup  ProudDad   Nov-03-10 07:36 PM   #334 
  - STFU, Ralph. The elections aren't over yet. n/t  FSogol   Nov-02-10 12:43 PM   #2 
  - why isn't mine safety an issue?  Enrique   Nov-02-10 12:46 PM   #3 
  - No one care about anything that doesn't affect them  demosincebirth   Nov-02-10 02:17 PM   #27 
  - Didn't you hear?  Capitalocracy   Nov-02-10 03:16 PM   #37 
  - Thanks Ralph for your indispensible help in enabling their victories!  BzaDem   Nov-02-10 12:49 PM   #4 
  - +1  moondust   Nov-02-10 12:53 PM   #9 
  - Co-sign  AspenRose   Nov-02-10 12:55 PM   #11 
  - Scooch over a little more, woodja? nt  blondeatlast   Nov-02-10 03:46 PM   #45 
  - +1  gulliver   Nov-02-10 01:26 PM   #20 
  - +1000000000!  UrbScotty   Nov-02-10 02:20 PM   #28 
  - Indeed. +1  apocalypsehow   Nov-02-10 02:35 PM   #34 
  - Why, because if he didn't run the Republicans wouldn't have stolen the election? nt  Capitalocracy   Nov-02-10 03:17 PM   #38 
  - if ralph didn't run, then those 200,000+ dems would've never voted for bush  frylock   Nov-02-10 04:35 PM   #51 
  - If Ralph didn't run, Gore would have been President even if the 200k dems voted for Bush.  BzaDem   Nov-02-10 04:36 PM   #52 
  - who are you to decide who should and who shouldn't run?  frylock   Nov-02-10 04:41 PM   #56 
  - Nope. When people disagree with "if ralph didn't run," our education system is FUCKING dead  BzaDem   Nov-02-10 04:48 PM   #63 
  - +1  mac56   Nov-02-10 04:55 PM   #67 
  - your argument is fucking ridiculous..  frylock   Nov-02-10 04:59 PM   #73 
  - That's too bad for you, since states containing over 1/8 of the population will be informing voters  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 05:43 AM   #169 
  - I find it ironic how you are ranting about logic, but not using it.  D23MIURG23   Nov-02-10 07:45 PM   #100 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-02-10 11:36 PM   #128 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-03-10 03:19 AM   #158 
  - "You have no basis for assuming that they would have voted for Gore if Nader wasn't running."  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 05:27 AM   #162 
  - if they "would have" voted for Gore, why didn't they?  ima_sinnic   Nov-03-10 06:21 AM   #175 
     - "Who are you to presume who Nader voters "would have" voted for?"  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 06:27 AM   #178 
     - no it's not "obvious," sheesh. if they "would have" voted for Gore, why didn't they?  ima_sinnic   Nov-03-10 06:53 AM   #181 
     - Because Nader was an option. If he wasn't an option on the ballot, enough would have voted for Gore  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 11:43 AM   #253 
        - I'm serious, and I argue otherwise, b/c all you can do is speculate, number 1,  ima_sinnic   Nov-03-10 04:58 PM   #330 
           - According to you, California's voting system in 2012 will somehow be "fascist."  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 09:38 PM   #340 
     - Do you have any idea how fucking fascist that sounds?  PerpetuallyDazed   Nov-03-10 09:06 AM   #215 
        - That sounds like a corporatist authoritarian position? What? People who throw that word around...  fishbulb703   Nov-03-10 04:31 PM   #328 
           - Bullying others to vote in YOUR interest, yes  PerpetuallyDazed   Nov-03-10 09:09 PM   #338 
     - Excellent points!  pberq   Nov-03-10 09:23 AM   #221 
  - The Socialist Workers Party candidate got thousands of votes also, but they never  John Q. Citizen   Nov-03-10 11:45 AM   #257 
     - So what? One person isn't responsible because there were other people also responsible?  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 11:47 AM   #260 
        - Um.......yes that's how it works  LiberalLovinLug   Nov-03-10 02:49 PM   #323 
           - I never said ALL the blame was on Nader. I simply said that if Nader didn't run, Gore would have  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 06:08 PM   #333 
              - No, he wouldn't. Nader was not even a factor. The Neocons  sabrina 1   Nov-03-10 08:05 PM   #336 
                 - People who admit that Nader prevented Gore from being inaugurated are in the MINORITY?  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 09:39 PM   #341 
  - If Gore had given those 200K a reason to vote for him....  Prana69   Nov-02-10 11:56 PM   #132 
  - Yes.  suzie   Nov-03-10 02:08 AM   #137 
  - GORE lost the election.  alarimer   Nov-03-10 05:42 AM   #168 
  - Ralph Nader did nothing to build his so-called party  gort   Nov-02-10 05:11 PM   #78 
  - and what have democrats done to insure something like that never happens again?  frylock   Nov-02-10 05:21 PM   #81 
  - What did Ralph do?  gort   Nov-02-10 05:44 PM   #86 
     - What did Ralph do?  Capitalocracy   Nov-02-10 06:02 PM   #91 
     - Seatbelts? That's All You Got???  ProfessorGAC   Nov-02-10 06:12 PM   #92 
     - Me too....nt  Enthusiast   Nov-03-10 12:39 PM   #294 
     - you didn't answer my question..  frylock   Nov-02-10 06:17 PM   #93 
        - What Ralph did  gort   Nov-02-10 07:37 PM   #98 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-02-10 07:43 PM   #99 
  - The way I see it...  Chulanowa   Nov-03-10 12:47 AM   #136 
  - Viewing the wars and the MFing Patriot act  eilen   Nov-03-10 06:56 AM   #182 
     - It means more than not voting  Chulanowa   Nov-03-10 03:05 PM   #324 
  - Tell it, Brother. Few words and straight to point. I salute you.  Pooka Fey   Nov-03-10 09:12 AM   #216 
  - Al Gore won the 2000 election. The USSC stole it for Bush.  sabrina 1   Nov-02-10 08:58 PM   #114 
  - Nader delivered the election to Republicans for money and fame.  suzie   Nov-03-10 02:11 AM   #138 
  - What's ugly is distorting history.  sabrina 1   Nov-03-10 02:28 AM   #143 
     - What's ugly is the constant apologism for an egomaniac who prefers enabling Republicans  suzie   Nov-03-10 02:36 AM   #146 
  - Ding Ding Ding!  Pooka Fey   Nov-03-10 09:16 AM   #218 
     - Right ... this DLC "chestnut" continues be put on display here -- silly as it is ...!!  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:13 AM   #240 
  - Gore should have thrown his support to Nader and quit.  AnArmyVeteran   Nov-03-10 10:29 AM   #230 
  - It was 300,000 "Democrats" in FLORIDA who voted for W .....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:12 AM   #239 
  - It was "300,000" Democrats in Florida who voted for W ..... but that was also Nader's fault--!!  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:09 AM   #238 
  - Hear, hear.  wakemewhenitsover   Nov-02-10 11:13 PM   #125 
  - Oh if I could recommend a post...  calimary   Nov-02-10 03:20 PM   #39 
  - Nader had nothing to do with W stealing the election .... and GORE WON!!  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:20 AM   #242 
     - Thank you for clarifying  Enthusiast   Nov-03-10 12:44 PM   #295 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-02-10 04:34 PM   #48 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-02-10 04:34 PM   #50 
     - ooooooohh BURN..  frylock   Nov-02-10 04:37 PM   #53 
        - Sure. Let's talk about how Gore would have been President EVEN IF 200k dems voted for Bush  BzaDem   Nov-02-10 04:39 PM   #55 
           - So actual leftists are supposed to drop out to allow status-quo centrists to win?  Naturyl   Nov-02-10 04:41 PM   #57 
           - YES. How could this not be clear. They are supposed to run in a Democratic primary  BzaDem   Nov-02-10 04:46 PM   #62 
           - ralph didn't run as a democrat..  frylock   Nov-02-10 05:03 PM   #75 
           - Again, what we really need is an open primary, so that the general is between the two candidates  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 05:33 AM   #164 
           - They are only "supposed" to do that in your imagination.  D23MIURG23   Nov-02-10 08:11 PM   #109 
           - The real problem is that they are even allowed to run as a spoiler. The general election should be a  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 05:30 AM   #163 
           - Wow, what a statement. I say NO. I say actual centrists are supposed to form their own party  Leopolds Ghost   Nov-03-10 03:14 AM   #157 
           - yes, that's their argument..  frylock   Nov-02-10 04:56 PM   #69 
           - well gee, how can i argue with a roffle smiley..  frylock   Nov-02-10 04:44 PM   #60 
           - Gore WAS elected President in FL. But you apparently don't read newspapers so you wouldnt know that.  Leopolds Ghost   Nov-03-10 03:11 AM   #156 
              - He may have been elected, but he wasn't President in 2001. He would have been had Ralph Nader  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 05:38 AM   #165 
                 - bullshit  ima_sinnic   Nov-03-10 06:39 AM   #179 
                 - Whoever said anything about "everybody?" If 1% of them voted for Gore, Gore would have been sworn in  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 06:48 AM   #180 
                    - gee, if Bush had dropped out, there would have been 100% certainty of Gore, right?  ima_sinnic   Nov-03-10 07:04 AM   #186 
                       - Thank you!  M_A   Nov-03-10 08:26 AM   #202 
                       - Ha Ha! - excellent! I love it!  pberq   Nov-03-10 09:31 AM   #223 
                       - Nope. But if Nader dropped out, Gore would have easily won.  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 11:01 AM   #237 
                       - there is no "difference" betw Bush dropping out & Nader dropping out, because  ima_sinnic   Nov-03-10 11:17 AM   #241 
                       - Just because you deny reality doesn't mean reality somehow isn't reality.  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 11:41 AM   #251 
                          - whatever. how about if they ran someone who people would RATHER vote for than Nader? problem solved!  ima_sinnic   Nov-03-10 05:27 PM   #331 
                       - Nonsense ... Bush won by 500+ votes in Florida ... Buchanan "won" 3,000+ votes on  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:34 AM   #246 
                       - Plus fucking one!  Enthusiast   Nov-03-10 12:48 PM   #296 
                 - Flash News: The 2000 election was stolen by GOP --  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:30 AM   #245 
  - Democratic Senators voted for Bush's Supreme Court appointments.  Better Believe It   Nov-02-10 04:52 PM   #65 
  - You REALLY think that Republicans would just sit back and allow Democrats to deny him any  BzaDem   Nov-02-10 04:54 PM   #66 
     - You're making my point. Thank you! Like I and others have pointed  Better Believe It   Nov-02-10 09:08 PM   #118 
        - You are (as always) missing the point. Republicans didn't vote against cloture for any of Obama's  BzaDem   Nov-03-10 05:41 AM   #167 
           - You're changing the subject. But the new point you made is just plain wrong.  Better Believe It   Nov-03-10 09:01 AM   #214 
  - The SC Court in an act of treason, handed the election to George  sabrina 1   Nov-02-10 08:51 PM   #112 
  - Nader delivered the election to the Republicans.  suzie   Nov-03-10 02:13 AM   #139 
  - Repeating a distortion doesn't make it true.  sabrina 1   Nov-03-10 02:34 AM   #145 
     - In your unending apologism for Ralph Nader, you're simply unwilling to look at the facts.  suzie   Nov-03-10 02:48 AM   #149 
        - You can whine all you want about the electoral process and refuse  sabrina 1   Nov-03-10 03:02 AM   #153 
        - Re-read Sabrina's post.  Enthusiast   Nov-03-10 12:52 PM   #299 
        - I don't contest that.  suzie   Nov-03-10 02:38 PM   #320 
        - You're the one unwilling to face facts...  ProudDad   Nov-03-10 01:22 PM   #308 
           - Thank you.  sabrina 1   Nov-03-10 08:01 PM   #335 
  - +1  Le Taz Hot   Nov-03-10 05:55 AM   #171 
  - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:38 AM   #248 
  - Exactly....nt  Enthusiast   Nov-03-10 12:50 PM   #297 
  - No, it was Democratics falling over each other to get across that...  TheMadMonk   Nov-02-10 09:09 PM   #119 
  - Your are  wutangfan85   Nov-03-10 05:39 AM   #166 
  - True... we now have one right wing party and one radical right wing party -- !!  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:39 AM   #250 
  - Exactly.  LiberalLovinLug   Nov-03-10 03:09 PM   #325 
  - +10  nilram   Nov-03-10 02:19 AM   #141 
  - +100000000000000000000  Zoeisright   Nov-03-10 07:13 AM   #190 
  - +1  Deep13   Nov-03-10 07:48 AM   #194 
  - Right. Thanks, Ralph! nt  onehandle   Nov-03-10 08:15 AM   #199 
  - + thousands  Joe Bacon   Nov-03-10 09:15 AM   #217 
  - Did asshole say something?  BeyondGeography   Nov-02-10 12:49 PM   #5 
  - I'm still pissed at Ralph for 2000... but I agree with him here.  apnu   Nov-02-10 12:51 PM   #6 
  - Ralph had nothing to do with Bush "win" .... by, eh, less than 600 votes in Florida ....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:42 AM   #252 
  - Nader seems to have changed his tune from 2000.  BootinUp   Nov-02-10 12:52 PM   #7 
  - Yeah, no kidding. I mean, I thought both parties were the SAME  Zoeisright   Nov-03-10 07:14 AM   #191 
     - You know, anger can really be blinding ... you should reread the article ....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:44 AM   #255 
  - Go Ralph!  the redcoat   Nov-02-10 12:53 PM   #8 
  - Ralph Nader: instant unrecommend n/t  LoZoccolo   Nov-02-10 12:54 PM   #10 
  - Ralph Nader instant rec. One of the smartest men in America  sabrina 1   Nov-02-10 09:00 PM   #116 
     - +1,000 and thank you - nt  inna   Nov-02-10 11:28 PM   #126 
     - The SCOTUS simply stopped the vote-counting.  suzie   Nov-03-10 02:26 AM   #142 
     - They interfered in the electoral process, a violation of the Constitution  sabrina 1   Nov-03-10 02:48 AM   #148 
        - Bugliosi uses the imagery of the giant squid that puts out clouds of ink  suzie   Nov-03-10 02:57 AM   #152 
           - You are doing a fine job of defending criminals. I will leave you to  sabrina 1   Nov-03-10 03:09 AM   #155 
              - What are you even talking about--"Trial and conviction?".  suzie   Nov-03-10 03:36 AM   #159 
     - +1000 nt  pberq   Nov-03-10 09:37 AM   #224 
     - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:44 AM   #256 
     - I'm not a fan of his choice in 2000, but I do like seatbelts. nt  Exultant Democracy   Nov-03-10 11:59 AM   #265 
  - I thought he made good points  JonLP24   Nov-02-10 12:56 PM   #12 
  - just another inconvenient truth for the nader haters  frylock   Nov-02-10 04:38 PM   #54 
     - They really are an impressive bunch aren't they?  depakid   Nov-02-10 04:59 PM   #72 
        - they rival the teabaggers in their ignorance..  frylock   Nov-02-10 05:05 PM   #76 
           - dupe  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:46 AM   #258 
           - Quite a few of them know the truth ... but continue to try to spread animosity for Nader here ....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:47 AM   #259 
              - Those same 300,000 dixiecrats vote for Republicans in every election.  suzie   Nov-03-10 02:28 PM   #317 
  - Lotta un-reccing going on...  disillusioned73   Nov-02-10 12:57 PM   #13 
  - It's a conspiracy.  Lil Missy   Nov-02-10 01:19 PM   #18 
     - nah... the truth just hurts  fascisthunter   Nov-02-10 03:46 PM   #44 
  - Really?  MilesColtrane   Nov-02-10 01:01 PM   #14 
  - Clear vision a decade late.  hay rick   Nov-02-10 01:02 PM   #15 
  - The Republican Bush Pioneers Nader took money from didn't seem too bad.  Ikonoklast   Nov-02-10 05:20 PM   #80 
  - Defend the voters from the Republicans?  treestar   Nov-02-10 01:03 PM   #16 
  - K&R  leftstreet   Nov-02-10 01:04 PM   #17 
  - Fuck Nader...  SidDithers   Nov-02-10 01:25 PM   #19 
  - I wish people would channel their anger againt dems who fail to represent them  beforeyoureyes   Nov-02-10 01:29 PM   #21 
  - Or against Republicans instead of one of our own progressives, Ralph Nader.  Better Believe It   Nov-02-10 02:28 PM   #31 
  - Nader is not a progressive--he enabled the 8 years of the Bush presidency.  suzie   Nov-03-10 02:29 AM   #144 
  - Good luck with that.  mmonk   Nov-02-10 05:23 PM   #83 
  - +1  readmoreoften   Nov-02-10 07:49 PM   #103 
  - Until Dem recognize his wisdom, this country will be swallowed completely by corporate rule  kgnu_fan   Nov-02-10 01:58 PM   #22 
  - I would, had he run as a Democrat.  WinkyDink   Nov-02-10 02:00 PM   #25 
  - Democratic Party leaders like Rahm Emanuel would bury Ralph if he ran as a Democrat.  Better Believe It   Nov-02-10 04:43 PM   #59 
  - I used past verb tense. :-)  WinkyDink   Nov-03-10 06:16 AM   #172 
  - So only "democrats" have a lock on the Truth, eh?  ProudDad   Nov-03-10 01:16 PM   #305 
  - Who, in their right mind, cares what...  hayu_lol   Nov-02-10 02:03 PM   #26 
     - People who understand his decades long fight against corporatism, for one ....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:49 AM   #261 
  - So he's found his voice against Republicans at last.  WinkyDink   Nov-02-10 01:59 PM   #23 
  - More than a dime NOW, Nader?  Canuckistanian   Nov-02-10 02:00 PM   #24 
  - You confusing Nader with George Wallace from the 60's. Might want to study political history a bit  Better Believe It   Nov-02-10 02:41 PM   #35 
     - That's a curious reply. Just because Wallace said it, doesn't mean Nader hasn't acted like that's  apocalypsehow   Nov-02-10 03:33 PM   #41 
     - Hmm...  Canuckistanian   Nov-02-10 03:40 PM   #42 
     - Will "TweedleDum and TweedleDumber" do? Because I heard RN say that with my own 2 ears.  WinkyDink   Nov-02-10 04:34 PM   #49 
  - Oh, bite me, Ralph.  Skidmore   Nov-02-10 02:21 PM   #29 
  - Our progressive friend and truth teller Ralph Nader just nailed it!  Better Believe It   Nov-02-10 02:26 PM   #30 
  - Bad news ... but DU has to hear it --- "Thank you," RALPH NADER...  defendandprotect   Nov-02-10 02:29 PM   #32 
  - apocalypshow to Ralph Nader: FUCK OFF. n/t.  apocalypsehow   Nov-02-10 02:34 PM   #33 
  - Ralph Nader isn't always right.  glitch   Nov-02-10 02:52 PM   #36 
  - Ralph is Right.  Naturyl   Nov-02-10 03:25 PM   #40 
  - So sez the poster who didn't vote.  blondeatlast   Nov-02-10 03:49 PM   #46 
  - Thanks for the promise to harass me.  Naturyl   Nov-02-10 04:32 PM   #47 
  - Please do. Please harass. We'll be sure to keep track of your violations.  readmoreoften   Nov-02-10 08:58 PM   #113 
  - He _was_ wrong to try  dbmk   Nov-03-10 06:58 AM   #183 
  - He's Right  fascisthunter   Nov-02-10 03:45 PM   #43 
  - Might I point out that first little button with the little red arrow?  Jackpine Radical   Nov-02-10 04:42 PM   #58 
  - Fuck you, Ralph  ProudToBeBlueInRhody   Nov-02-10 04:46 PM   #61 
  - +1  proteus_lives   Nov-02-10 05:07 PM   #77 
  - Nader can go to hell!  A Cooper   Nov-02-10 04:50 PM   #64 
  - Blurring the contrast between the parties is one of the reasons Dems are in this situation  depakid   Nov-02-10 04:56 PM   #70 
  - word  frylock   Nov-02-10 05:21 PM   #82 
  - +1,000,000  readmoreoften   Nov-02-10 08:58 PM   #115 
  - What?!?  Spike from MN   Nov-03-10 06:59 AM   #184 
  - +1 n/t  Catherina   Nov-03-10 09:40 PM   #342 
  - Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile.  mac56   Nov-02-10 04:58 PM   #71 
  - While I do agree...  kenfrequed   Nov-02-10 05:00 PM   #74 
  - Dear Ralph. Fuck you very much. Sincerely, Real Dems Everywhere. nt  mistertrickster   Nov-02-10 05:13 PM   #79 
  - Looks like "real Dems" are having trouble distinguishing themselves  depakid   Nov-02-10 05:39 PM   #84 
  - And yet, oddly, the voters had no trouble picking out the R's yesterday . . . nt  mistertrickster   Nov-03-10 08:35 AM   #208 
     - Yep, they dumped your friends the blue-dogs  ProudDad   Nov-03-10 01:17 PM   #306 
        - You have me confused with Art-in-Ark. I HATE the bluedogs. nt  mistertrickster   Nov-04-10 09:05 AM   #347 
  - This real Dem, unless you're an authority on 'real Dems'  sabrina 1   Nov-03-10 02:51 AM   #150 
     - Being right is not enough. One also has to DO what's right.  mistertrickster   Nov-03-10 08:33 AM   #207 
  - Some People Can't Handle The Truth... n/t  humbled_opinion   Nov-02-10 05:42 PM   #85 
  - Nader was a Rove dirty trick  bongbong   Nov-02-10 05:52 PM   #87 
  - Nader was around with the same message way before Rove got power.  barb162   Nov-02-10 10:48 PM   #123 
  - Your point?  bongbong   Nov-03-10 08:32 AM   #205 
  - The point is Nader had his ideas fully formulated before Rove  barb162   Nov-03-10 06:06 PM   #332 
  - Your point?  bongbong   Nov-03-10 09:31 PM   #339 
  - Nader has been fighting corporatism/fascism for decades...whether Rep or Dem ...  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:53 AM   #262 
     - Lots of explanation  bongbong   Nov-03-10 01:06 PM   #302 
        - BEFORE you change the subject ... deal with FLORIDA and the less than 600 vote "win" ....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 01:31 PM   #310 
           - asdf  bongbong   Nov-03-10 02:47 PM   #322 
              - So still don't get your comment re "repigs" ....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 08:26 PM   #337 
                 - asdf 2  bongbong   Nov-03-10 09:46 PM   #343 
                    - NPR has long been gone -- 20 years I'd say....  defendandprotect   Nov-04-10 01:04 AM   #345 
                       - asdf 3  bongbong   Nov-04-10 11:06 AM   #348 
                          - Yes ... Supreme Court put W in the White House in 2000 -- nothing to do with Nader ---  defendandprotect   Nov-04-10 05:19 PM   #349 
                             - asdf 4  bongbong   Nov-05-10 06:18 AM   #350 
  - I used to be a Nader hater  Ratty   Nov-02-10 05:55 PM   #88 
  - It's a real dilemma, not something to hate people over  Capitalocracy   Nov-02-10 06:48 PM   #96 
  - Honestly, the Democratic Party seems incapable of learning  eilen   Nov-03-10 07:09 AM   #188 
  - Nader is a danger to both corporate parties ... that's why he was scapegoated .....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 11:55 AM   #264 
  - You people know there's an element of truth in his comments. That's why  Marr   Nov-02-10 05:57 PM   #89 
  - Ummm...my anger is not a finite quantity. BTW: Is Nader a Democrat? No? So I am not breaking a DU  WinkyDink   Nov-03-10 06:19 AM   #173 
  - Thanks for all your help, you bloated, egotistical gasbag!  Arkana   Nov-02-10 05:58 PM   #90 
  - Supreme Court put Bush in White House ... not Nader --  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:00 PM   #266 
  - can't blame this one on Nader  ibegurpard   Nov-02-10 06:21 PM   #94 
  - Nader and Goodman STILL saying vote 3rd party  KossackRealityCheck   Nov-02-10 06:30 PM   #95 
  - There's no way to invent another party  trukdivad   Nov-02-10 07:01 PM   #97 
  - Hey Ralph thanks for making this night possible......  Historic NY   Nov-02-10 07:48 PM   #102 
  - How in the hell did Ralph Nader make this possible?  Marr   Nov-02-10 07:52 PM   #105 
  - Thanks Nader for starting the old ball rolling  Raine   Nov-02-10 07:52 PM   #104 
  - Wish I could say he was wrong.  The Gunslinger   Nov-02-10 08:10 PM   #107 
  - Strange talk from a third party candidate who split the progressive vote.  herbm   Nov-02-10 08:10 PM   #108 
  - Perhaps you should re read the article ....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:01 PM   #267 
  - Strange talk from a third party candidate who split the progressive vote.  herbm   Nov-02-10 08:12 PM   #110 
  - STFU, Ralph.  travelingtypist   Nov-02-10 08:38 PM   #111 
  - He is right, so he will be vilified... we OWN this loss BUT  ShamelessHussy   Nov-02-10 09:02 PM   #117 
  - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:02 PM   #268 
  - thanks Ralph for Bushco  glinda   Nov-02-10 09:23 PM   #120 
  - You nailed it, Ralph. But you're yelling into the abyss. Still, I thank you. Rec.  bertman   Nov-02-10 10:34 PM   #121 
  - Rec.  rtassi   Nov-02-10 11:03 PM   #124 
  - K&R -- Oh, they hear it .... and that's why they're so furious with Nader and criticism of Dems....!  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:03 PM   #269 
  - I will exercise my first ammendment rights. Fuck Ralph Nader, and yes I believe he contributed to  still_one   Nov-02-10 10:36 PM   #122 
  - those who deny it are idiots or teabaggers, oh, that's redundent  digidigido   Nov-02-10 11:38 PM   #129 
     - Gore won 2000, including in Florida .... you're passing the point of  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:04 PM   #270 
  - K&R +86  inna   Nov-02-10 11:33 PM   #127 
  - Naderbaiters are like Baggers--except that they should know better nt  MisterP   Nov-02-10 11:46 PM   #130 
  - Think most of them do know better re 2000, but their main thrust is to try  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:06 PM   #271 
  - He's right and he's always been right.  RadicalTexan   Nov-02-10 11:48 PM   #131 
  - I agree with Nader  stormpilot   Nov-03-10 12:08 AM   #133 
  - Nader has been dedicated to beating corporatism whether Rep or Dem.....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:07 PM   #274 
  - once again thank you for President Bush  bottomofthehill   Nov-03-10 12:09 AM   #134 
  - Another nonsensical statement about the theft of the 2000 election.  sabrina 1   Nov-03-10 02:52 AM   #151 
     - How do you think Florida was even close enough to steal?  WinkyDink   Nov-03-10 06:20 AM   #174 
        - For the same reason that many elections are close enough to steal  sabrina 1   Nov-03-10 07:07 AM   #187 
        - The Supreme Court decided Florida  Jim_Shorts   Nov-03-10 10:23 AM   #228 
        - Bush "won" in Florida by less than 600 votes ...  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:08 PM   #275 
  - People hate it when it turns out he was right  upi402   Nov-03-10 02:16 AM   #140 
  - And, boy has Nader been right ... been warning us about corporatism/fascism for decades!!  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:09 PM   #276 
  - Ahh, Ralph, Cassandra of our time. But you're welcome to put out your eyes if you disagree.  Umbral   Nov-03-10 02:46 AM   #147 
  - says the man who gave us 8 years of bush.....  bowens43   Nov-03-10 04:54 AM   #160 
  - Rec'd n/t  Catherina   Nov-03-10 05:20 AM   #161 
  - Ralph is correct.  Le Taz Hot   Nov-03-10 05:45 AM   #170 
  - Nader RAN AGAINST GORE. This is DU. We here do NOT have to speak or think favorably of him.  WinkyDink   Nov-03-10 06:23 AM   #176 
  - You might consider listening to honest and accurate analysis wherever you find it  depakid   Nov-03-10 07:00 AM   #185 
  - Oh, nice condescension.  WinkyDink   Nov-03-10 07:50 AM   #195 
  - And we call the T-baggers "ignorant" ...  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:11 PM   #278 
  - I had serious issues with ..  The Uncola   Nov-03-10 06:25 AM   #177 
  - Fuck you, Nader.  Zoeisright   Nov-03-10 07:13 AM   #189 
  - From the guy who made George W. Bush possible . . .  h9socialist   Nov-03-10 07:47 AM   #193 
  - All of these negative comments about Nader...  dotymed   Nov-03-10 07:56 AM   #196 
  - Agree ...  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:13 PM   #279 
  - There are two ways to view the quotes in the OP:  Nihil   Nov-03-10 08:02 AM   #197 
  - Nader's analysis is correct.  MilesColtrane   Nov-03-10 11:43 AM   #254 
  - For the same reason DLC/New Dems scapegoated Nader for 2000 ....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:15 PM   #280 
  - STFU. And thanks for Bush. nt  onehandle   Nov-03-10 08:16 AM   #200 
  - K&R'd  snot   Nov-03-10 08:20 AM   #201 
  - Gee, Ralph. Why don't you run as a Democrat somewhere?  mistertrickster   Nov-03-10 08:30 AM   #203 
  - this thread exhibits part of the problem in this Party  fascisthunter   Nov-03-10 08:44 AM   #210 
  - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:16 PM   #281 
  - Ralph is correct  M_A   Nov-03-10 08:49 AM   #212 
  - +1000  pberq   Nov-03-10 09:43 AM   #226 
  - Prosecution of war criminals  Jennifer Stream   Nov-03-10 09:21 AM   #219 
  - Agree -- and a serious failure ....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:17 PM   #282 
  - Sickening, sickening the Nader haters. So misled for so long.  The Stranger   Nov-03-10 09:39 AM   #225 
  - They attack Nader even though he's the only one who is a real high profile progressive.  AnArmyVeteran   Nov-03-10 10:26 AM   #229 
  - I'd like him to join my Party.  WinkyDink   Nov-03-10 10:32 AM   #231 
     - But then he would have to sell out his values.  AnArmyVeteran   Nov-03-10 10:48 AM   #234 
     - And that's a reflection of how bad our party has become more than it is a reflection on Nader. nt  Selatius   Nov-03-10 11:22 AM   #243 
     - I absolutely agree.  AnArmyVeteran   Nov-03-10 11:27 AM   #244 
     - Has Kucinich?  WinkyDink   Nov-03-10 11:54 AM   #263 
     - Yes -- we all understand that -- in order to exist as a Democrat Kucinich cannot  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:22 PM   #285 
     - +1000%  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:21 PM   #284 
     - Do you realize you're in a party which is pro-corporate? And moving more to the right?  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:20 PM   #283 
  - Thank you. Agree 100%  jeffrey_X   Nov-03-10 02:38 PM   #321 
  - Did Nader do much to prevent this??? Does he live in a cave except during November of election yrs?  BrklynLiberal   Nov-03-10 10:43 AM   #233 
  - Obviously, your comments are based on very little knowledge of Nader ....  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:26 PM   #287 
     - You want to make the argument that Nader fights against fascism?  suzie   Nov-03-10 02:33 PM   #318 
        - ...  BrklynLiberal   Nov-04-10 08:03 AM   #346 
  - Nailed It!  bvar22   Nov-03-10 10:49 AM   #235 
  - Well, ain't Ralphie a little genius and all.  Owl   Nov-03-10 11:35 AM   #247 
  - Nader's message is right, even if I have little love for the messenger.  Laelth   Nov-03-10 12:06 PM   #272 
  - Nader has for decades fought corporatism/fascism ... why would you  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:28 PM   #288 
  - Thanks for posting!!! Nice analysis.  rainy   Nov-03-10 12:23 PM   #286 
  - Thanks for posting this -- I didn't get to tune in yesterday ... wish I had -- !!  defendandprotect   Nov-03-10 12:28 PM   #289 
  - Ralph is exactly correct.  Enthusiast   Nov-03-10 12:32 PM   #290 
  - Rec. Not exactly crazy talk. nt  Smarmie Doofus   Nov-03-10 12:32 PM   #291 
  - Rec. Not exactly crazy talk. nt  Smarmie Doofus   Nov-03-10 12:32 PM   #292 
  - Discussion in this thread should be about what Ralph said, not about  Bryn   Nov-03-10 01:10 PM   #303 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-03-10 01:12 PM   #304 
  - I don't like people quoting Nader on almost anything.  Stuart G   Nov-03-10 01:19 PM   #307 
  - Kick +10,000  ProudDad   Nov-03-10 01:23 PM   #309 
  - Funny to see party hacks now admitting Ralph was right ...  upi402   Nov-03-10 02:37 PM   #319 
  - Ralph Nader is Spot-On!!!!!!  WizardLeft62   Nov-06-10 12:38 AM   #351 
  - And yes, Very Craven and Evil GOP Batards  WizardLeft62   Nov-08-10 04:12 AM   #353 
 

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