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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:53 AM
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41. Reid and Ron Emmanuel are part of this capitulation
The larger issue is that most Dems did, in fact, vote for this war (giving Chucklenuts the power to wage war for no apparent reason). Why did they do this? Find that out and you will find out the reason that they are still funding the damned thing. My guess is that the oil corporations want this war and no "will of the people" is going to stop them. Yes, the Dems aren't listening to the people, but neither is Bush. In fact, Bush isn't even listening to the slippery friends of his Daddy who are telling him to get the hell out. Everyone is ignoring the obvious: that the war was morally and strategically wrong and has destroyed the economic health and worldwide reputation of the USA. The only interest this war now serves is to the oil companies (primarily) and the war profiteers (like Haliburton) secondarily. But these companies have more clout than all of the American populace put together and can keep this war going (and their toadies in office) for as long as they want the war to last, especially with the support of a complicit and financially connected media.
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  -"...not enough votes to override a veto..." is a meaningless canard.... mike_c  May-22-07 08:36 PM   #0 
  - Good point. But the funding through September (federal fiscal year) is already there.  pinto   May-22-07 08:42 PM   #1 
  - then why the rush to buy a democratic share in the war now...?  mike_c   May-22-07 08:44 PM   #4 
     - Because they just made an opening move to Wall Street for 2008.  sfexpat2000   May-22-07 08:50 PM   #9 
     - Wall Street?  pinto   May-22-07 09:17 PM   #16 
        - I'm thinking about the trade deal. n/t  sfexpat2000   May-22-07 09:26 PM   #19 
     - I don't get some of the short term political maneuvering, to be honest. But it's not over yet.  pinto   May-22-07 09:41 PM   #20 
  - I find it insulting that they actually  Nite Owl   May-22-07 08:43 PM   #2 
  - the troops are supported by the defense appropriations bill...  mike_c   May-22-07 08:47 PM   #5 
  - Does anyone else know about this?  Patsy Stone   May-22-07 08:44 PM   #3 
  - yeah, one wonders, huh...?  mike_c   May-22-07 08:47 PM   #6 
  - Maybe we need to sign them up for mike_c's course in Civics.  sfexpat2000   May-22-07 08:48 PM   #7 
     - Someone should probably be told.  Patsy Stone   May-22-07 08:49 PM   #8 
     - HAH! Even my university wouldn't let ME get near a course with political content...  mike_c   May-22-07 08:51 PM   #11 
        - Yes! I miss the Free World.  sfexpat2000   May-22-07 09:11 PM   #15 
  - Pelosi was a mistake, she is too weak and gullible.  partylessinOhio   May-22-07 08:50 PM   #10 
  - Sounds like it wan't her choice  dave_p   May-22-07 09:46 PM   #22 
  - Did I miss something?  OzarkDem   May-22-07 10:14 PM   #24 
     - I think we all missed something  dave_p   May-23-07 06:11 AM   #30 
  - I think you forgot the sarcasm tag. n/t  yibbehobba   May-23-07 08:36 AM   #33 
  - A big FU to Mahoney  thunder rising   May-22-07 08:51 PM   #12 
  - welcome to DU!  mike_c   May-22-07 08:52 PM   #13 
  - Welcome to DU!  Patsy Stone   May-22-07 08:53 PM   #14 
  - Welcome to DU thunder rising!  8643   May-22-07 09:22 PM   #17 
  - Fuck them canarys.  BikeWriter   May-22-07 09:25 PM   #18 
  - besides which, that argument implies that  leftofthedial   May-22-07 09:43 PM   #21 
  - Well said. It's as if they are convinced that Bush is The Decider  Rydz777   May-22-07 09:47 PM   #23 
  - kick  sfexpat2000   May-22-07 10:48 PM   #25 
  - To all those who are new here:  tyedyeto   May-22-07 10:55 PM   #26 
  - not only the sole power to appropriate money, but it is their proper role...  mike_c   May-22-07 11:02 PM   #27 
     - Does the Senate have anything to do with this?  question everything   May-23-07 12:23 AM   #28 
        - no, the senate has nothing to do with it...  mike_c   May-23-07 12:46 AM   #29 
  - Obviously...  Everybody   May-23-07 08:24 AM   #31 
  - the thing that you so conveniently ignore is that that course has already been rejected  bigtree   May-23-07 08:33 AM   #32 
  - exactly  onenote   May-23-07 11:00 AM   #37 
     - So instead, she's putting herself at risk in her own district. n/t  sfexpat2000   May-23-07 11:03 AM   #38 
     - her district will always elect a Democrat  onenote   May-23-07 11:43 AM   #39 
     - so "the will of her own members" is to join the republicans in prosecuting...  mike_c   May-23-07 11:52 AM   #40 
        - well, the public is of two minds, so you shouldn't be surprised that their representatives are  onenote   May-23-07 12:58 PM   #42 
  - Because they know we will be there for decades according to Pentagon Studies  dogday   May-23-07 08:41 AM   #34 
  - Actually  prodn2000   May-23-07 10:35 AM   #35 
  - nope  onenote   May-23-07 10:54 AM   #36 
  - Reid and Ron Emmanuel are part of this capitulation  Nikki Stone1   May-23-07 11:53 AM   #41 

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