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They had Kid Rock, and he's a Republican's Republican
The point wasn't Left v Right, but stop being such a shrill harpy about it all...
That's why they included Code Pink and Medea Benjamin alongside Beck and O'Reilly.
They're all shrill harpys who only know how to amplify, not listen or even contribute useful dialogue.
I mean, shit, the Obama Admin goes on a listening tour re: HCR and Medea Benjamin and her Code Pink harpys show up to protest the war in Afghanistan. Not that I'm for the war, but there is a time and place - and this was not it. They were as useful as the Lyndon LaRouche zombies in attendance.
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| -A sanity rally shouldn't have John "charter school" Legend performing. |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:25 AM |
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He is a really good singer though. nt |
LaurenG |
Oct-30-10 11:26 AM |
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Didn't know that. |
femmocrat |
Oct-30-10 11:26 AM |
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yeah...a headsup, please,when the music's over. I linked about Legend's |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:28 AM |
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Gabi, do you have the DU thread link? |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:37 AM |
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here you go: |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:44 AM |
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Music is over. |
femmocrat |
Oct-30-10 11:40 AM |
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mythbusters!!! |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:45 AM |
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pugs? What made you think that? nt |
Codeine |
Oct-30-10 11:50 AM |
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he strikes me as very conservative, generally. |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:59 AM |
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Sorry, never heard of them. |
femmocrat |
Oct-30-10 11:51 AM |
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Apparently they're playing for a whole hour |
Yeshuah Ben Joseph |
Oct-30-10 11:29 AM |
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His politics mean lesss than the fact that he Just. Plain. Sucks. |
Codeine |
Oct-30-10 11:28 AM |
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The Roots, awful? |
marmar |
Oct-30-10 11:32 AM |
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For real... I LOVED The Roots! |
DangerousRhythm |
Oct-30-10 08:42 PM |
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Yep, I thought he was just an innocuous stoner thing. |
Scruffy1 |
Oct-30-10 10:34 PM |
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living in the Detroit Metro area, I can see why someone would advocate for inner city charter school |
Windy |
Oct-30-10 11:29 AM |
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Then we should rally to fix this insanity, not sell it off to the for-profit meatgrinder. eom |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:30 AM |
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The charter school my kid goes to is sponsored by a state university |
Telly Savalas |
Oct-30-10 01:05 PM |
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And what 'non-profit' foundations donate to the school your kid goes to? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-30-10 01:55 PM |
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Thanks. |
Radical Activist |
Oct-31-10 06:56 PM |
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Thank you. |
woo me with science |
Oct-31-10 08:34 PM |
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problem is, charters are NOT the answer, especially the way they've 'evolved,' meaning they're now |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:31 AM |
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Charter schools aren't going to do anything to fix that. |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:34 AM |
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"their lives in their own hands when going to high school. " |
marmar |
Oct-30-10 11:35 AM |
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Um no.... I take it you live here? Read newspapers much? |
Windy |
Oct-30-10 11:52 AM |
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Yeah, of 100,000 students, at least 10,000 get picked off on their way to school daily |
marmar |
Oct-30-10 11:56 AM |
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Yeah, he really made a difference. |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:56 AM |
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but he talks a good game, starry, that's all that matters. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:28 PM |
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It's like the song from "Chicago" |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:36 PM |
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imo, he was hired to fire teachers & dig detroit further in the hole. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:47 PM |
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I thought about that right before I hit "post" |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:50 PM |
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I like him... nt |
CBR |
Oct-30-10 11:31 AM |
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I'm not speaking to his musicianship in this thread. Only his pro privatization politics. eom |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:32 AM |
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Like I keep saying...the strongest advocates for reform are successful black men. |
dkf |
Oct-30-10 11:31 AM |
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Not sure how selling off the schools to corporate entities helps civil rights. |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:34 AM |
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The charter school movement doesn't have to be about corporations. |
dkf |
Oct-30-10 12:08 PM |
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it *is* about corporations: microsoft, broad's pre-fab housing corp, & walmart. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:31 PM |
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read this if you think charter schools aren't about corporations |
Iris |
Oct-30-10 10:38 PM |
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Well instead of fighting against charter schools why not just make for profits ineligible? |
dkf |
Oct-31-10 03:43 AM |
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Do you think that will stop the fraud? |
immoderate |
Oct-31-10 10:22 AM |
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I'm interested in what we can do to replicate the Asian systems. |
dkf |
Oct-31-10 06:24 PM |
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So we can increase our teenage suicide rate? |
Iris |
Oct-31-10 06:51 PM |
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What about the Fins? |
immoderate |
Oct-31-10 08:28 PM |
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No, the tax law that benefits them specifically mandates |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-31-10 10:29 AM |
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Nothing is set in stone. |
dkf |
Oct-31-10 06:30 PM |
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What does that mean? |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-31-10 07:08 PM |
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Do you think corporate america would let that happen? |
Iris |
Oct-31-10 06:51 PM |
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I didn't know Whitney Tilson was black. |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:35 AM |
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heh...remember our PM exchange about you know what.... |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:50 AM |
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I've been dying to point out that all the big guys pushing reform |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:59 AM |
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Bill Gates is a successful black man? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-30-10 12:04 PM |
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Arne Duncan too, I guess. |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 12:11 PM |
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the waltons & eli broad too -- didn't you know they were black? down with the people, man. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:32 PM |
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Oh shit, how did I forget them? |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:42 PM |
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you've got it. black is white, white is black in the surreal world of ed deform. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:46 PM |
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Now all I can think of is Steve Martin in "The Jerk" |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:59 PM |
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it's propaganda, period. those rich white fucks always want to take on the |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 11:03 PM |
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I've been collecting links on companies benefiting from the New Market Tax Credit |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:13 PM |
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39%? wow, that's *some* civil right. you need an op on that one. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 11:18 PM |
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Oh yes indeed. |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:31 PM |
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looking forward to it. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 11:49 PM |
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strongest advocates for reform are rich white men. very rich, very white. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:12 PM |
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Oct-30-10 11:41 AM |
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yes he is, and you don't have any idea what you're talking about. |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:51 AM |
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no he is not. Just because you say so doesn't make it so |
ecstatic |
Oct-30-10 11:55 AM |
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jesus....did you really type that? |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:06 PM |
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Reasonable people have come to a different conclusion |
ecstatic |
Oct-30-10 12:11 PM |
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LOL You're kidding, right? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-30-10 01:11 PM |
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I think the rally went right over your head. |
daylan b |
Oct-30-10 11:46 AM |
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Maybe. Maybe John Legend represents the Fear aspect and not the Sanity part. eom |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:48 AM |
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Yeah, it did. |
daylan b |
Oct-30-10 11:49 AM |
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Not a matter of him "being allowed" to perform. He was invited to play a sanity rally ... |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:52 AM |
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You seem to think the rally is for a political view point. |
daylan b |
Oct-30-10 11:54 AM |
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So why isn't the KKK or skinheads on stage? |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:56 AM |
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Because that's a philosophy based on hatred. |
daylan b |
Oct-30-10 08:37 PM |
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teacher & union-bashing: also based on hatred, diviseness, scapegoating, bullying |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:15 PM |
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I guess that's kinder, gentler hatred |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:24 PM |
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yeah, they just fire them & take their pensions: nothing so horrific as slave camps. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:34 PM |
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As long as teachers just wither away and die quietly and without a fuss |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:47 PM |
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double post |
daylan b |
Oct-31-10 08:00 AM |
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Oct-31-10 08:00 AM |
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Oct-31-10 09:57 AM |
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Exactly!!! nt |
ecstatic |
Oct-30-10 11:56 AM |
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Clearance was about 5,000 feet,lol |
grantcart |
Oct-30-10 08:56 PM |
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Oh? Well, I guess fuck it, then. |
Gidney N Cloyd |
Oct-30-10 11:50 AM |
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No shit. Du is such a fuckinj oy stealer. Where else can we discuss this without the |
xultar |
Oct-30-10 11:52 AM |
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just call me Debby |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:09 PM |
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This sort of "outrage" is what makes coming to DU |
ecstatic |
Oct-30-10 12:13 PM |
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so stay away |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:16 PM |
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Or maybe you could stop |
ecstatic |
Oct-30-10 12:20 PM |
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overreact much? |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:24 PM |
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Shill or dupe? |
immoderate |
Oct-31-10 11:57 AM |
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if you don't like the thread there are plenty of cheerleader ones about. you'll feel better |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:34 PM |
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wouldn't want politics to interfere with vapid celebrity-worship. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:17 PM |
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yeh, me too. I just turned the show off, cuz you know... |
Whisp |
Oct-30-10 01:07 PM |
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Agreed |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-30-10 11:52 AM |
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I think "sanity" requires respecting other people's viewpoints. nt |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 11:52 AM |
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+1000.... truth nt |
CBR |
Oct-30-10 11:55 AM |
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so you agree that this post is a valuable contribution to the general discussion, yes? |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:57 AM |
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next up....Sean Hannity! |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:58 AM |
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Then Adolf Hitler... Then Pol Pot... Then BILL GATES -- SCARY!!!!!!! nt |
CBR |
Oct-30-10 11:59 AM |
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Would I have commented otherwise? |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 11:59 AM |
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only cause I LET you |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:00 PM |
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Thanks, Skinner? |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 12:01 PM |
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besides inferencing skills, you might go shopping for a sense of humor |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:10 PM |
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Strange, what comes outta the woodwork when we try to be "open" and "accepting". |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 12:00 PM |
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Just not mine. LOL |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:57 AM |
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No. You're more than welcome to believe that people who disagree with you should be shunned. |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 12:00 PM |
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Then, it's all good. |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 12:03 PM |
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not everybody.... there's a difference..... perhaps shun idiots and shills? |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:04 PM |
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And I'm sure you're qualified to decide which is which. |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 12:19 PM |
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Oct-30-10 12:21 PM |
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Lol. Do you think they'll take away my MD or my PhD on your recommendations? |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 12:38 PM |
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did you get your ph.d for whining to the mods? |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:55 PM |
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here's your next fauxtrage project |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:57 PM |
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pre-emptive apology to my latest DU pal: |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 01:05 PM |
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Except when other people's viewpoints are idiotic. |
Lucian |
Oct-30-10 01:02 PM |
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Does "respect" in your view involve overlooking their efforts to dismantle our schools? |
EFerrari |
Oct-30-10 10:46 PM |
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apparently |
ibegurpard |
Oct-30-10 11:35 PM |
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I respect your opinion. |
Kurovski |
Oct-30-10 12:09 PM |
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it's not an opinion that legend is a charter school shill, it's a fact. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:36 PM |
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Is it a fact that he should not have been included? |
Kurovski |
Oct-31-10 08:08 AM |
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as we're teaching our third and fourth graders right now, 'should' is a key word that always |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-31-10 06:57 PM |
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That is fucking ridiculous. He is a strong democratic advocate. I guess anyone |
Pisces |
Oct-30-10 12:58 PM |
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How strong can he be if he's shilling for union busting charter schools? |
EFerrari |
Oct-30-10 10:38 PM |
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UnRec nt |
BootinUp |
Oct-30-10 09:04 PM |
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I didn't know that either. n/t |
EFerrari |
Oct-30-10 10:13 PM |
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last i looked, mr duncan was a democrat |
spanone |
Oct-31-10 08:16 AM |
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As is the president of the Chicago teachers union |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-31-10 10:30 AM |
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so's mayor daley, so's rahm emanuel, so was strom thurmond, so was Dick Morris. |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-31-10 06:45 PM |
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here's another 'dem': |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-31-10 06:54 PM |
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Um, so? |
Taverner |
Oct-31-10 07:09 PM |
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So I guess |
Panaconda |
Oct-31-10 08:49 PM |
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I'm no fan of Charter Schools, but if a rocker supports them - how does that make him the bad guy? |
Taverner |
Oct-31-10 10:55 PM |
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