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Sun Oct-31-10 06:30 PM
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| 121. Nothing is set in stone. |
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I would like to see debate on this issue. I think it would be helpful.
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| -A sanity rally shouldn't have John "charter school" Legend performing. |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:25 AM |
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He is a really good singer though. nt |
LaurenG |
Oct-30-10 11:26 AM |
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Didn't know that. |
femmocrat |
Oct-30-10 11:26 AM |
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yeah...a headsup, please,when the music's over. I linked about Legend's |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:28 AM |
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Gabi, do you have the DU thread link? |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:37 AM |
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here you go: |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:44 AM |
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Music is over. |
femmocrat |
Oct-30-10 11:40 AM |
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mythbusters!!! |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:45 AM |
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pugs? What made you think that? nt |
Codeine |
Oct-30-10 11:50 AM |
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he strikes me as very conservative, generally. |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:59 AM |
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Sorry, never heard of them. |
femmocrat |
Oct-30-10 11:51 AM |
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Apparently they're playing for a whole hour |
Yeshuah Ben Joseph |
Oct-30-10 11:29 AM |
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His politics mean lesss than the fact that he Just. Plain. Sucks. |
Codeine |
Oct-30-10 11:28 AM |
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The Roots, awful? |
marmar |
Oct-30-10 11:32 AM |
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For real... I LOVED The Roots! |
DangerousRhythm |
Oct-30-10 08:42 PM |
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Yep, I thought he was just an innocuous stoner thing. |
Scruffy1 |
Oct-30-10 10:34 PM |
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living in the Detroit Metro area, I can see why someone would advocate for inner city charter school |
Windy |
Oct-30-10 11:29 AM |
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Then we should rally to fix this insanity, not sell it off to the for-profit meatgrinder. eom |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:30 AM |
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The charter school my kid goes to is sponsored by a state university |
Telly Savalas |
Oct-30-10 01:05 PM |
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And what 'non-profit' foundations donate to the school your kid goes to? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-30-10 01:55 PM |
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Thanks. |
Radical Activist |
Oct-31-10 06:56 PM |
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Thank you. |
woo me with science |
Oct-31-10 08:34 PM |
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problem is, charters are NOT the answer, especially the way they've 'evolved,' meaning they're now |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:31 AM |
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Charter schools aren't going to do anything to fix that. |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:34 AM |
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"their lives in their own hands when going to high school. " |
marmar |
Oct-30-10 11:35 AM |
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Um no.... I take it you live here? Read newspapers much? |
Windy |
Oct-30-10 11:52 AM |
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Yeah, of 100,000 students, at least 10,000 get picked off on their way to school daily |
marmar |
Oct-30-10 11:56 AM |
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Yeah, he really made a difference. |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:56 AM |
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but he talks a good game, starry, that's all that matters. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:28 PM |
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It's like the song from "Chicago" |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:36 PM |
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imo, he was hired to fire teachers & dig detroit further in the hole. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:47 PM |
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I thought about that right before I hit "post" |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:50 PM |
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I like him... nt |
CBR |
Oct-30-10 11:31 AM |
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I'm not speaking to his musicianship in this thread. Only his pro privatization politics. eom |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:32 AM |
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Like I keep saying...the strongest advocates for reform are successful black men. |
dkf |
Oct-30-10 11:31 AM |
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Not sure how selling off the schools to corporate entities helps civil rights. |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:34 AM |
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The charter school movement doesn't have to be about corporations. |
dkf |
Oct-30-10 12:08 PM |
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it *is* about corporations: microsoft, broad's pre-fab housing corp, & walmart. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:31 PM |
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read this if you think charter schools aren't about corporations |
Iris |
Oct-30-10 10:38 PM |
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Well instead of fighting against charter schools why not just make for profits ineligible? |
dkf |
Oct-31-10 03:43 AM |
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Do you think that will stop the fraud? |
immoderate |
Oct-31-10 10:22 AM |
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I'm interested in what we can do to replicate the Asian systems. |
dkf |
Oct-31-10 06:24 PM |
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So we can increase our teenage suicide rate? |
Iris |
Oct-31-10 06:51 PM |
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What about the Fins? |
immoderate |
Oct-31-10 08:28 PM |
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No, the tax law that benefits them specifically mandates |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-31-10 10:29 AM |
#117 |
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Nothing is set in stone. |
dkf |
Oct-31-10 06:30 PM |
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What does that mean? |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-31-10 07:08 PM |
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Do you think corporate america would let that happen? |
Iris |
Oct-31-10 06:51 PM |
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I didn't know Whitney Tilson was black. |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:35 AM |
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heh...remember our PM exchange about you know what.... |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:50 AM |
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I've been dying to point out that all the big guys pushing reform |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:59 AM |
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Bill Gates is a successful black man? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-30-10 12:04 PM |
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Arne Duncan too, I guess. |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 12:11 PM |
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the waltons & eli broad too -- didn't you know they were black? down with the people, man. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:32 PM |
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Oh shit, how did I forget them? |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:42 PM |
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you've got it. black is white, white is black in the surreal world of ed deform. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:46 PM |
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Now all I can think of is Steve Martin in "The Jerk" |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:59 PM |
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it's propaganda, period. those rich white fucks always want to take on the |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 11:03 PM |
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I've been collecting links on companies benefiting from the New Market Tax Credit |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:13 PM |
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39%? wow, that's *some* civil right. you need an op on that one. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 11:18 PM |
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Oh yes indeed. |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 11:31 PM |
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looking forward to it. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 11:49 PM |
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strongest advocates for reform are rich white men. very rich, very white. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:12 PM |
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Oct-30-10 11:41 AM |
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yes he is, and you don't have any idea what you're talking about. |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:51 AM |
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no he is not. Just because you say so doesn't make it so |
ecstatic |
Oct-30-10 11:55 AM |
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jesus....did you really type that? |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:06 PM |
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Reasonable people have come to a different conclusion |
ecstatic |
Oct-30-10 12:11 PM |
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LOL You're kidding, right? |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-30-10 01:11 PM |
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I think the rally went right over your head. |
daylan b |
Oct-30-10 11:46 AM |
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Maybe. Maybe John Legend represents the Fear aspect and not the Sanity part. eom |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:48 AM |
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Yeah, it did. |
daylan b |
Oct-30-10 11:49 AM |
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Not a matter of him "being allowed" to perform. He was invited to play a sanity rally ... |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:52 AM |
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You seem to think the rally is for a political view point. |
daylan b |
Oct-30-10 11:54 AM |
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So why isn't the KKK or skinheads on stage? |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:56 AM |
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Because that's a philosophy based on hatred. |
daylan b |
Oct-30-10 08:37 PM |
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teacher & union-bashing: also based on hatred, diviseness, scapegoating, bullying |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:15 PM |
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I guess that's kinder, gentler hatred |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:24 PM |
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yeah, they just fire them & take their pensions: nothing so horrific as slave camps. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:34 PM |
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As long as teachers just wither away and die quietly and without a fuss |
Starry Messenger |
Oct-30-10 10:47 PM |
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double post |
daylan b |
Oct-31-10 08:00 AM |
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Oct-31-10 08:00 AM |
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Oct-31-10 09:57 AM |
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Exactly!!! nt |
ecstatic |
Oct-30-10 11:56 AM |
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Clearance was about 5,000 feet,lol |
grantcart |
Oct-30-10 08:56 PM |
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Oh? Well, I guess fuck it, then. |
Gidney N Cloyd |
Oct-30-10 11:50 AM |
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No shit. Du is such a fuckinj oy stealer. Where else can we discuss this without the |
xultar |
Oct-30-10 11:52 AM |
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just call me Debby |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:09 PM |
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This sort of "outrage" is what makes coming to DU |
ecstatic |
Oct-30-10 12:13 PM |
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so stay away |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:16 PM |
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Or maybe you could stop |
ecstatic |
Oct-30-10 12:20 PM |
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overreact much? |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:24 PM |
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Shill or dupe? |
immoderate |
Oct-31-10 11:57 AM |
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if you don't like the thread there are plenty of cheerleader ones about. you'll feel better |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:34 PM |
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wouldn't want politics to interfere with vapid celebrity-worship. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:17 PM |
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yeh, me too. I just turned the show off, cuz you know... |
Whisp |
Oct-30-10 01:07 PM |
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Agreed |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-30-10 11:52 AM |
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I think "sanity" requires respecting other people's viewpoints. nt |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 11:52 AM |
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+1000.... truth nt |
CBR |
Oct-30-10 11:55 AM |
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so you agree that this post is a valuable contribution to the general discussion, yes? |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:57 AM |
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next up....Sean Hannity! |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 11:58 AM |
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Then Adolf Hitler... Then Pol Pot... Then BILL GATES -- SCARY!!!!!!! nt |
CBR |
Oct-30-10 11:59 AM |
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Would I have commented otherwise? |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 11:59 AM |
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only cause I LET you |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:00 PM |
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Thanks, Skinner? |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 12:01 PM |
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besides inferencing skills, you might go shopping for a sense of humor |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:10 PM |
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Strange, what comes outta the woodwork when we try to be "open" and "accepting". |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 12:00 PM |
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Just not mine. LOL |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 11:57 AM |
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No. You're more than welcome to believe that people who disagree with you should be shunned. |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 12:00 PM |
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Then, it's all good. |
Billy Burnett |
Oct-30-10 12:03 PM |
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not everybody.... there's a difference..... perhaps shun idiots and shills? |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:04 PM |
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And I'm sure you're qualified to decide which is which. |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 12:19 PM |
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Oct-30-10 12:21 PM |
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Lol. Do you think they'll take away my MD or my PhD on your recommendations? |
Barack_America |
Oct-30-10 12:38 PM |
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did you get your ph.d for whining to the mods? |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:55 PM |
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here's your next fauxtrage project |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 12:57 PM |
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pre-emptive apology to my latest DU pal: |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-30-10 01:05 PM |
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Except when other people's viewpoints are idiotic. |
Lucian |
Oct-30-10 01:02 PM |
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Does "respect" in your view involve overlooking their efforts to dismantle our schools? |
EFerrari |
Oct-30-10 10:46 PM |
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apparently |
ibegurpard |
Oct-30-10 11:35 PM |
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I respect your opinion. |
Kurovski |
Oct-30-10 12:09 PM |
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it's not an opinion that legend is a charter school shill, it's a fact. |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-30-10 10:36 PM |
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Is it a fact that he should not have been included? |
Kurovski |
Oct-31-10 08:08 AM |
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as we're teaching our third and fourth graders right now, 'should' is a key word that always |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-31-10 06:57 PM |
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That is fucking ridiculous. He is a strong democratic advocate. I guess anyone |
Pisces |
Oct-30-10 12:58 PM |
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How strong can he be if he's shilling for union busting charter schools? |
EFerrari |
Oct-30-10 10:38 PM |
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UnRec nt |
BootinUp |
Oct-30-10 09:04 PM |
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I didn't know that either. n/t |
EFerrari |
Oct-30-10 10:13 PM |
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last i looked, mr duncan was a democrat |
spanone |
Oct-31-10 08:16 AM |
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As is the president of the Chicago teachers union |
proud2BlibKansan |
Oct-31-10 10:30 AM |
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so's mayor daley, so's rahm emanuel, so was strom thurmond, so was Dick Morris. |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-31-10 06:45 PM |
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here's another 'dem': |
Gabi Hayes |
Oct-31-10 06:54 PM |
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Um, so? |
Taverner |
Oct-31-10 07:09 PM |
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So I guess |
Panaconda |
Oct-31-10 08:49 PM |
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I'm no fan of Charter Schools, but if a rocker supports them - how does that make him the bad guy? |
Taverner |
Oct-31-10 10:55 PM |
#133 |
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