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Fri Oct-29-10 09:47 AM
Response to Reply #65 |
| 69. It is different, for many reasons. Chief among them: |
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1) There was actual evidence of Rush's pill problem.
2) Using someone's sexuality to attack them is sexism, and that is not a progressive value. Christine O'Donnell is a repressive sexist just like her predecessors, and there is no need for us to adopt her sexism in order to keep her from office.
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boston bean |
Oct-29-10 06:23 AM |
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I agree. It sets a bad a precedent |
Crystal Clarity |
Oct-29-10 06:32 AM |
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I think the "missing the waxing trend" comment put this way over the top. |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 06:36 AM |
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yup... that part really made my tummy churn. |
druidity33 |
Oct-29-10 07:56 AM |
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Actually, the only proof "offered" is the writer's hear-say |
MattyGroves |
Oct-29-10 09:53 AM |
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There once was a girl named Christine |
11 Bravo |
Oct-29-10 03:53 PM |
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Are you older than 13? nt |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 06:22 PM |
#118 |
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Remember the attacks on Hillary? |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 06:39 AM |
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her cankles.... |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 06:40 AM |
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Yup. It was wrong then |
Crystal Clarity |
Oct-29-10 06:43 AM |
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I'm sorry. You can't play nice with these people. They'll do or say anything |
mudplanet |
Oct-29-10 08:21 AM |
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I agree, and this piece really sums it up for me : |
mfprtoo |
Oct-29-10 08:17 PM |
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But what about hypocrisy? Didn't O'Donnell diss pre-marital sex? |
Evasporque |
Oct-29-10 08:07 AM |
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She didn't have sex with this guy, yet she is turned into some slut where |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 08:10 AM |
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A lot of people use "hypocrisy" as an excuse to do something they know is wrong |
petronius |
Oct-29-10 11:35 AM |
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On the other hand, |
krispos42 |
Oct-29-10 11:43 PM |
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I don't really see it that way. I hold me to my standards, although I don't always |
petronius |
Oct-29-10 11:58 PM |
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Gawker's Christine O'Donnell tell-all backfires |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 06:36 AM |
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i agree. you can call her on a lot of things without having to call her a slut |
ejpoeta |
Oct-29-10 06:36 AM |
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i felt the same, having to defend palin as she used sexuality for her campaign, |
seabeyond |
Oct-29-10 06:38 AM |
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i remember DUer calling Palin a slut for wearing red shoes, and was like WTF |
bettyellen |
Oct-29-10 07:10 AM |
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Good for NOW. |
woo me with science |
Oct-29-10 06:39 AM |
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Where does it say this was a Democrat making these remarks? |
GoCubsGo |
Oct-29-10 07:01 AM |
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I was referring to the disgusting other thread on this page. nt |
woo me with science |
Oct-29-10 07:03 AM |
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Sorry. |
GoCubsGo |
Oct-29-10 07:05 AM |
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You can't deny that Christine O'Donnell is a hypocrite, though. |
Quantess |
Oct-29-10 06:40 AM |
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What did she do? Did she have sex with him, did she masturbate with him |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 06:46 AM |
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The fact that she would pass judgment on your sexual |
sufrommich |
Oct-29-10 06:53 AM |
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I think the point is that her own behavior doesn't stand up to the judgement she'd pass on you. |
JoePhilly |
Oct-29-10 07:26 AM |
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but it's her "test" that is so fucked up, and you;re pepetuatiing the same awfullness |
bettyellen |
Oct-29-10 10:20 PM |
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And when she does that, we criticize her for it. If we are |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-29-10 12:08 PM |
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The difference is... |
MellowDem |
Oct-29-10 07:11 PM |
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in this case she is being condemned for being a little flirty ! and you're not embarrassed by this? |
bettyellen |
Oct-29-10 10:22 PM |
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She is not being condemned at all... |
MellowDem |
Oct-30-10 12:10 AM |
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We are accepting the word of an anonymous person about whom |
sabrina 1 |
Oct-30-10 03:24 AM |
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This Non-Story Got The Coverage It Deserved...None |
KharmaTrain |
Oct-29-10 06:49 AM |
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I agree. Stick with her crazy political positions. There is a |
sufrommich |
Oct-29-10 06:50 AM |
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I wish NOW would get involved in the trashy Celebriity "Tell Alls" |
KoKo |
Oct-29-10 06:51 AM |
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There's a lot of work to be done, that's for sure. |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 06:53 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Oct-29-10 06:52 AM |
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TSG update |
pintobean |
Oct-29-10 07:05 AM |
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Ahhh, so we know "Anonymous"'s name.... |
moriah |
Oct-29-10 08:14 AM |
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Let's see here, |
MadHound |
Oct-29-10 07:18 AM |
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Exposing hypocrisy is one thing, describing her ge |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 07:23 AM |
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And we've had similar sorts of tawdry details exposed, |
MadHound |
Oct-29-10 07:30 AM |
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it's not slut shaming a guy, when he is married, it's not slut shaming when the guy is married |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 07:53 AM |
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We're not talking about Hillary here, |
MadHound |
Oct-29-10 08:01 AM |
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Oh yes, we are. that is what the NOW statement is about. All women. |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 08:06 AM |
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You might be, but I'm not |
MadHound |
Oct-29-10 08:12 AM |
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And you won't discuss Hillarys treatment because it doesn't fit help your argument. |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 08:17 AM |
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Where was the outrage over Diaper Dave? |
hobbit709 |
Oct-29-10 07:24 AM |
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Well actually, FWIW I expressed that here. |
Matariki |
Oct-29-10 10:25 PM |
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It's not the sex, it's the hypocrisy of these people. |
hobbit709 |
Oct-30-10 06:14 AM |
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If it's really the hypocrisy, then why do people make fun of the sex? |
Matariki |
Oct-30-10 09:20 PM |
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Because the more uptight the Morality Police are in public |
hobbit709 |
Oct-30-10 10:19 PM |
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If a womans sexual history were treated the same as a man's |
sufrommich |
Oct-29-10 07:25 AM |
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Actually, in the case of politicians, it is |
MadHound |
Oct-29-10 07:34 AM |
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Can you please tell me then what Hillary did that was so hypocritical that |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 07:59 AM |
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We're not talking about Hillary here, |
MadHound |
Oct-29-10 08:02 AM |
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read above and use some critical thinking as to why Hillary's treatment is in many |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 08:08 AM |
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Again, we are not discussing Hillary, |
MadHound |
Oct-29-10 08:14 AM |
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I have discussed both with you. Don't make allegations that are untrue. |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 08:18 AM |
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dupe |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 08:08 AM |
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Patronizing a prostitute is a crime. n/t |
moriah |
Oct-29-10 08:07 AM |
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Having an affair isn't n/t |
MadHound |
Oct-29-10 08:15 AM |
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Agreed, which is why the Clenis story was overblown IMHO and the Starr report porn. |
moriah |
Oct-29-10 08:23 AM |
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No, but undisclosed situations of that sort can expose a politician to influence |
jberryhill |
Oct-29-10 11:16 AM |
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Is there something to be said for the fact that |
Volaris |
Oct-30-10 03:16 AM |
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Agree 100%. I'm not judging her for going home with the guy. What I am judging her for is the |
Erose999 |
Oct-29-10 12:45 PM |
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There is nothing sexist or misogynistic about the story it is what it is .... |
Botany |
Oct-29-10 07:18 AM |
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Until the 25 year old Philadelphian comes forward with his name.... |
moriah |
Oct-29-10 08:04 AM |
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point taken .... |
Botany |
Oct-29-10 08:35 AM |
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My grandma didn't. |
moriah |
Oct-29-10 08:38 AM |
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My grandma didn't |
Botany |
Oct-29-10 08:47 AM |
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Not at 42... |
moriah |
Oct-29-10 08:52 AM |
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Women can't have it both ways.. |
HipChick |
Oct-29-10 07:39 AM |
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I certainly don't agree with the man up and cajones references. they are |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 07:55 AM |
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And you don't see how that in itself is the same kind of sexism? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 09:37 AM |
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Agreed, and refusing to stoop to their level isn't letting them "have it both ways" like |
iris27 |
Oct-30-10 02:18 PM |
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Ack - dupe. |
iris27 |
Oct-30-10 02:20 PM |
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The "Gawker" story reeks of being completely untrue. |
moriah |
Oct-29-10 08:01 AM |
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Anonymous but checkable |
KossackRealityCheck |
Oct-29-10 08:47 AM |
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All that can be proven is she went to a party. |
moriah |
Oct-29-10 08:58 AM |
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Not by journalistic standards |
KossackRealityCheck |
Oct-29-10 10:34 AM |
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I would assume referring to "journalistic standards" and Gawker in the same sentence.... |
moriah |
Oct-29-10 11:35 AM |
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she participated in drinking and driving n/t |
sammytko |
Oct-29-10 09:48 AM |
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gawker? seriously?? |
Blue_Tires |
Oct-29-10 08:02 AM |
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I stand by my label of her and don't think it is at all sexist |
Generic Other |
Oct-29-10 08:06 AM |
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+1, says this woman. It's the JUDGMENTAL hypocrisy of the Magic Christian that riles me. |
blondeatlast |
Oct-29-10 09:28 AM |
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Agree - Out Of Bounds |
jberryhill |
Oct-29-10 08:18 AM |
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Can't say i agree...anything that highlights the hypocrisy of any politician's |
joeybee12 |
Oct-29-10 08:36 AM |
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Agree. Is everyone okay with the notion "Do as I SAY, not as I DO"? |
blondeatlast |
Oct-29-10 09:30 AM |
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Well, actually.... |
moriah |
Oct-29-10 11:37 AM |
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This is no different than blasting Rush for popping oxy's. Exactly 0% different |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-29-10 09:30 AM |
#65 |
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It is different, for many reasons. Chief among them: |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 09:47 AM |
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Substitute sex for anything else and that very thin logic falls apart. |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-29-10 10:16 AM |
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You're desperate to ignore the sexism in favor of your "hypocrissy" argument, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 10:23 AM |
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I already addressed that in my prior post, so it wasn't avoided. |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-29-10 12:10 PM |
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3 things: |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 12:25 PM |
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No one told you what to believe and I defy you to point to a sexist expectation of Susie |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-29-10 12:40 PM |
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Check your post |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 03:04 PM |
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Sorry for any mixed signals on my end. The "you" was rhetorical. |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-29-10 08:56 PM |
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And if questions were all we were dealing with that would be fine. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 10:14 PM |
#131 |
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Unseemly and underhanded are not the same as sexist. |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-29-10 10:51 PM |
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You consider that piece crucial because it is the only leg holding up your "non-sexist" case. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 11:25 PM |
#137 |
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How is the piece not relevant? You have to throw it out to present an affirmative case of sexism |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-30-10 01:45 PM |
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Your nearly unreadable rant fails to answer any points. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-10 02:02 PM |
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Ok, sure. I gave every effort to address your points and it was pooh poohed to preserve protect |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-30-10 02:33 PM |
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If that was your best effort, |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-10 03:03 PM |
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Maybe reading comprehension on your end would be more beneficial |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-30-10 05:20 PM |
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Thank you, and NOW. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 09:41 AM |
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Sluts rule. |
Codeine |
Oct-29-10 09:46 AM |
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You can't! If you like them, you're OBJECTIFYING them!!!!111cos(0)1!!! |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Oct-29-10 09:49 AM |
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Maybe, but the only thing you'll ever get called for being a slutty man is a man-whore. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 09:49 AM |
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Bullshit. Men get raked over the coals as well. |
edbermac |
Oct-29-10 09:51 AM |
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And what happened to them? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 10:00 AM |
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Well, let's see... |
MellowDem |
Oct-29-10 07:05 PM |
#120 |
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So exposing O'Donnell as a hypocrite |
Upton |
Oct-29-10 09:56 AM |
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It's not exposure. It's gossip. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 10:03 AM |
#78 |
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It's exposure... |
MellowDem |
Oct-29-10 07:07 PM |
#121 |
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So hearsay can be used tarnish the credibility of our opponents. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 07:12 PM |
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It's up to the voters.... |
MellowDem |
Oct-29-10 07:28 PM |
#125 |
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Oh dear god what about the men?! |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 07:38 PM |
#126 |
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Well then DU eats up gossip... |
MellowDem |
Oct-29-10 07:47 PM |
#127 |
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Yes it does. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 09:57 PM |
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Personally, I would hold myself... |
MellowDem |
Oct-30-10 12:15 AM |
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You're not holding yourself to any standard when you defend others |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-10 01:24 AM |
#145 |
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This supposed "exposing" doesn't help anyone. |
LisaL |
Oct-29-10 10:04 AM |
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Slut shaming doesn't work anyway |
ecstatic |
Oct-29-10 09:58 AM |
#76 |
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Would that more people interested in politics thought like you. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 10:08 AM |
#80 |
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Its not _who_ she slept with thats interesting |
dbmk |
Oct-29-10 10:55 AM |
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She didn't sleep with him. Did you even read past the headline? |
boston bean |
Oct-29-10 03:17 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Oct-29-10 10:24 AM |
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What's sexist is demanding a zone of protection for women's hypocrisy. |
Romulox |
Oct-29-10 10:26 AM |
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Prove the hypocrisy, then we'll talk. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 10:31 AM |
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Your argument is weak. Let O'Donnell sue for defamation is the guy is lying. |
Romulox |
Oct-29-10 10:35 AM |
#87 |
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That's not how argumentation works, that's how you manipulate dupes. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 10:43 AM |
#88 |
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I'm not engaging in "argumentation" (sic), based on proving the veracity of the gawker claims |
Romulox |
Oct-29-10 10:55 AM |
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Before you use (sic), you should check that it was misspelled. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 11:00 AM |
#91 |
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"sic" doesn't mean something is misspelled, necessarily--it means the phrasing is in the original |
Romulox |
Oct-29-10 11:33 AM |
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Oi. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 11:46 AM |
#99 |
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It means the phrasing appears in the original, full stop. |
Romulox |
Oct-29-10 12:01 PM |
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Tiresome should be your nickname. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 12:13 PM |
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It's the hypocracy factor. If she weren't parading around as Miss Morality, I'd agree. |
Lisa0825 |
Oct-29-10 11:39 AM |
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As much as I can't stand her, this is totally uncalled for... |
cynatnite |
Oct-29-10 11:41 AM |
#98 |
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Her "issues" include dictating to others what sex practices are acceptible, and infringing the repro |
Erose999 |
Oct-29-10 01:02 PM |
#108 |
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Pardon me while I pause for a moment of introspection. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Oct-29-10 12:37 PM |
#105 |
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I'm impressed. I thought slut shaming would break out in this thread to denounce slut shaming. |
sally cat |
Oct-29-10 03:45 PM |
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Calling out someone for lying or hypocrisy |
felix_numinous |
Oct-29-10 05:15 PM |
#113 |
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But she'd do it to someone else |
treestar |
Oct-29-10 05:23 PM |
#114 |
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Agree. |
BlueCheese |
Oct-29-10 05:31 PM |
#115 |
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Setting up a double standard here. OK to tell all re: male politicians but not women? |
McCamy Taylor |
Oct-29-10 05:33 PM |
#116 |
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Clinton actually HAD sex. Did O'Donnell? No one knows, not from this story. n/t |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 07:14 PM |
#124 |
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Actually, even if you take this story at Anonymous Dude's word, she didn't. n/t. |
iris27 |
Oct-30-10 02:36 PM |
#157 |
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But What If I'm A Shameless Slut ??? |
WillyT |
Oct-29-10 05:37 PM |
#117 |
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NOW is being dumb as hell with this... |
MellowDem |
Oct-29-10 07:03 PM |
#119 |
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"NOW should've kept it's mouth shut"?? |
darkstar3 |
Oct-29-10 10:25 PM |
#134 |
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Thanks for your concern... |
MellowDem |
Oct-30-10 12:09 AM |
#141 |
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Thanks for the revelation. |
darkstar3 |
Oct-30-10 02:05 PM |
#151 |
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Wasn't she insinuating her opponent in the primary was gay? |
Greg K |
Oct-29-10 11:40 PM |
#138 |
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I'm curious to know |
LawnLover |
Oct-30-10 12:20 AM |
#144 |
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Those people actually had extra marital affairs or hired prostitues |
bettyellen |
Oct-30-10 02:17 PM |
#153 |
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It was not a political ad and claiming it is is a lie |
lunatica |
Oct-30-10 02:08 PM |
#152 |
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kick and R. Women of all parties deserve respect |
Valienteman |
Oct-30-10 02:45 PM |
#158 |
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That article was so trashy. |
Dash87 |
Oct-30-10 09:36 PM |
#162 |
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It exposes her for her hypocrisy. |
Lucian |
Oct-30-10 10:21 PM |
#164 |
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